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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 Missing - Page 44
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
Around 90,000 commercial flights according to this. More if you count cargo etc | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On April 11 2014 00:53 Warlock40 wrote: Slightly off topic, but just a random question: On the day that MH370 went missing, how many other flights in the world succeeded in landing safely? I would imagine the answer to be "all of them", but I was wondering if someone could give me a ballpark statistic to put the MH370 incident into perspective - how many flights are there in the world on a daily basis? The chances of you being in a plane crash is SOOO remote in our current age that you'll most likely to die driving to the actual airport then dieing in a plane crash. So, honestly if you are afraid of planes after this, don't be. It takes a lot of bad coincidences to bring a plane down. Edit: Also, you'll probably get struck by lightning before you are in a plane crash. Or killed by a shark. Or winning the lottery. | ||
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
On April 11 2014 00:53 Warlock40 wrote: Slightly off topic, but just a random question: On the day that MH370 went missing, how many other flights in the world succeeded in landing safely? I would imagine the answer to be "all of them", but I was wondering if someone could give me a ballpark statistic to put the MH370 incident into perspective - how many flights are there in the world on a daily basis? "At any given moment, there are 5000 planes above the skies within the United States and 87,000 planes flying worldwide." this includes miltary/commercial/cargo planes. so yea seraphic is right, if u are able to survive to 18 years old without dying to lightning or a car accident then its close to impossible that you will die in a plane crash under normal circumstances. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Update on search for Malaysian flight MH370 Listen to this page Media Release 11 April 2014—pm The Chief Coordinator of the Joint Agency Coordination Centre, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston (Ret'd), said an initial assessment of the possible signal detected by a RAAF AP-3C Orion aircraft yesterday afternoon has been determined as not related to an aircraft underwater locator beacon. “The Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre has analysed the acoustic data and confirmed that the signal reported in the vicinity of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield is unlikely to be related to the aircraft black boxes,” Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston (Ret'd), said. “Further analysis continues to be undertaken by Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre. “Today Ocean Shield is continuing more focussed sweeps with the Towed Pinger Locator to try and locate further signals that may be related to the aircraft's black boxes. It is vital to glean as much information as possible while the batteries on the underwater locator beacons may still be active. “The AP-3C Orions continue their acoustic search, working in conjunction with Ocean Shield, with three more missions planned for today. “A decision as to when to deploy the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle will be made on advice from experts on board the Ocean Shield and could be some days away. “On the information I have available to me, there has been no major breakthrough in the search for MH370. I will provide a further update if, and when, further information becomes available.” http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr018.aspx | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
(Between 01:07 and 01:37) The primary ACARS system is shut down, meaning it stopped sending informations to the ground. It kept pinging the satellite. Shutting down ACARS is a longer sequence so it cannot have been done by accident by a pilot. 01:19 The captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah says "good night, Malaysian three seven zero" when the plane is handed off from malaysian airspace. (A voice stress analysis shows no sign of stress in the recordings and there are no third party voices in the cockpit during the communications.) 01:21 The last data from the transponder is received near the Igal waypoint in the South China Sea. 01:22 The Vietnamese air traffic controller is not getting contacted by the plane as scheduled. 01:30 The plane leaves civil primary radar. 01:30 A pilot from another plane claims to have contacted the plane on the emergency frequency, but he only heard mumbling before the connection was lost. (According to a malaysian airforce primary radar the following sequence occured) The plane is reaching FL450 which is above recommandations for the plane. It is taking a sharp turn to the west and descends to FL230, lower than normal cruising altitude where it passes Penang and flies westward towards the Igal waypoint near Phuket, the plane disappears from military radar for a time, possibly as a result of reaching FL50 or below. It then turns northwest towards the Igrex waypoint in the northern part of the Indian Ocean. From the first westward turn, the way the plane reacts is consistent with how FMS reacts, alas it is likely the planes new route was programmed by a pilot (dispatcher has been excluded as a suspect). 02:15 The plane is no longer visible on military radar, contact is lost northwest of the indian territory Andaman Islands with the plane flying through the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean and towards the Igrex waypoint. (the last source of information is hourly handshakes from a satellite belonging to Inmarsat) A calculation of the delay of the handshake caused by the planes distance from the satellite is made. Based on analysis of the burst frequency offset of the plane, the directional informations are inferred (These calculations are theoretically sound but less empirically supported): 03:11 The burst frequency offset of the planes handshake at this time is significantly different from other planes flying north or south. Potentially a turn could cause the discrepancy. 4.11-7.11 The burst frequency offsets from the handshakes are consistent with a plane flying in a southward direction. The inferrence of direction is based on how well the planes burst frequency offset correlates with other planes flying in a northern or southern direction at different airspeeds in the same area. 08:11 The last complete handshake is recieved from the plane. 08:19 An unexpected partial handshake is initiated from the plane. Reason for it is unknown, though it is speculated to be as a result of the plane losing power. Further analysis of the planes airspeed from radar, the last handshakes, distance from the satellite and the burst frequency offset changes indicate the planes last known position to be in a vast and remote area of the Indian Ocean west of Australia. The pings from the black box emitters have been picked up in the absolute northern end of the flights calculated crash-area, most likely corresponding with a high airspeed flight and potentially small directional changes. Repost with latest public information. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
The Malaysian Air Force has said a plane that could have been MH370 was last plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 320 km (200 miles) northwest of the west coast state of Penang. It is understood that the plane descended to between 4,000 and 5,000 feet flying back over the Malay Peninsula is the stretch of land to the west of Malaysia containing the southern tip of Myanmar and southern Thailand. MH370 was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8 before it vanished without a trace. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331#ixzz2yaInY7Yt Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331 At 2:25pm (they don't have the dates and it's confusing. Should be the first news) | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On April 11 2014 22:35 FFW_Rude wrote: What the hell ? Are they saying that they saw the plane ? I'm confused http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331 At 2:25pm (they don't have the dates and it's confusing. Should be the first news) It is from CNN. CNN first reported it as 120 nm off the westcoast of Malaysia, but changed the 120 nm to refer to the period the plane was off the radar. I don't know. It seems like CNN is consistently chasing headlines and first reports on this story to the point of spreading rumours and misunderstanding facts. I jumped the gun myself in the fact-post and corrected it to be less specific. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On April 12 2014 00:10 radiatoren wrote: It is from CNN. CNN first reported it as 120 nm off the westcoast of Malaysia, but changed the 120 nm to refer to the period the plane was off the radar. I don't know. It seems like CNN is consistently chasing headlines and first reports on this story to the point of spreading rumours and misunderstanding facts. I jumped the gun myself in the fact-post and corrected it to be less specific. they're chasing viewership, i think they said since MH370 disappeared , their viewership went up like some ridiculous amount since they are/were covering it 24/7 http://qz.com/194344/cnns-over-the-top-nonstop-coverage-of-mh370-might-solve-its-ratings-problem/ | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
http://instagram.com/p/mqZMtQiFrR/ ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rC4UDxk.jpg) This was posted on the New Straits Times instagram. It only seems to be in paper form. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On April 12 2014 11:40 CorsairHero wrote: cell service might be an issue... Could have been a satellite phone. Though it still sounds very skeptical. | ||
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mh370-co-pilot-attempted-phone-call-over-penang-reports-daily | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
Can a crane on a ship lift 1000s of tons? | ||
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Yurie
11799 Posts
On April 12 2014 16:15 urboss wrote: If they find it, is it going to be easy to salvage the wreck? Can a crane on a ship lift 1000s of tons? The weight of the plane would at the absolute maximum be 351,500 kg, or 351 tons. More likely it would be around 160,500 kg if it was fully intact with some fuel and so on left in it. They will never salvage the entire wreckage if it is too deep, no point to it. The strongest cranes on land can lift around 20,000 metric tons (Chinese Taisun), or 56 times the needed weight. There are ships that transport more than that, 175 343 tons on the CMA CGM Marco Polo for example. The problem would be in structural integrity and method of reaching a set depth. So yes it is possible, no I didn't manage to find a good source about if there is any current ship that can do it. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
Mind that there is also the pressure of the water in 5000m depth the crane has to work against. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
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spacemonkeyy
Australia477 Posts
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