"The Fast and the Furious" movie star Paul Walker, 40, has reportedly died in a car accident Saturday afternoon in southern California, reports TMZ. The accident occurred in Santa Clarita — outside of Los Angeles — when Walker's Porsche apparently lost control and crashed into a tree, TMZ reported. The car burst into flames and exploded, TMZ reported.
While some are saying the reports on Paul’s death are false A TMZ reporter has just confirmer with a rep.
CBS LA has reported on the tragic accident.
Two people were killed Saturday in a fiery car crash in Santa Clarita. Authorities said the crash occurred around 3:30 p.m. in the 28300 block of Rye Canyon Loop in Valencia.
This is shocking and simply devastating... Brian O'Conner is one of my favorite action thriller movie characters...
On December 01 2013 12:49 Abductedonut wrote: Slightly off topic as well... but isn't it a major design flaw that when a car crashes into a tree it explodes?
lol wut?
Most things with a fuel source will explode if it crashes like that.
It's said he was a passenger with a friend driving in a Porsche. Where have I seen this before...all too often. Hitting a pole/tree no less. I am so gutted, rest in peace Walker.
Now what is going to happen to the series, were they still filming?
On December 01 2013 12:56 eonDE wrote: It's said he was a passenger with a friend driving in a Porsche. Where have I seen this before...all too often. Hitting a pole/tree no less. I am so gutted, rest in peace Walker.
Now what is going to happen to the series, were they still filming?
Yup. They are still filming. I wonder how they will handle this situation.
On December 01 2013 12:56 eonDE wrote: It's said he was a passenger with a friend driving in a Porsche. Where have I seen this before...all too often. Hitting a pole/tree no less. I am so gutted, rest in peace Walker.
Now what is going to happen to the series, were they still filming?
According to Wikipedia they were in the process of filming 7, which brought back Sean Boswell (Lucas Black) from the third film, and studios wanted an 8 and 9, too. If they really wanted to continue the series they could have Lucas Black replace Paul Walker as Vin Diesel's co-star.
On December 01 2013 12:56 eonDE wrote: It's said he was a passenger with a friend driving in a Porsche. Where have I seen this before...all too often. Hitting a pole/tree no less. I am so gutted, rest in peace Walker.
Now what is going to happen to the series, were they still filming?
According to Wikipedia they were in the process of filming 7, which brought back Sean Boswell (Lucas Black) from the third film, and studios wanted an 8 and 9, too. If they really wanted to continue the series they could have Lucas Black replace Paul Walker as Vin Diesel's co-star.
Since these studios are in the market to make money, any F&F movie without Vin Diesel and Paul Walker might not do well financially. I know a lot of people hated Tokyo Drift (I personally liked it) because they considered it a "wannabe" since the two stars are not in it.
On December 01 2013 12:56 eonDE wrote: It's said he was a passenger with a friend driving in a Porsche. Where have I seen this before...all too often. Hitting a pole/tree no less. I am so gutted, rest in peace Walker.
Now what is going to happen to the series, were they still filming?
According to Wikipedia they were in the process of filming 7, which brought back Sean Boswell (Lucas Black) from the third film, and studios wanted an 8 and 9, too. If they really wanted to continue the series they could have Lucas Black replace Paul Walker as Vin Diesel's co-star.
Since these studios are in the market to make money, any F&F movie without Vin Diesel and Paul Walker might not do well financially. I know a lot of people hated Tokyo Drift (I personally liked it) because they considered it a "wannabe" since the two stars are not in it.
Principal shooting of the movie just started less than 3 months ago, without Walker it would be incredibly hard to finish the film as most scenes won't be there. I personally expect a cancellation but who knows... Damn...
just read it few minutes ago ... omg and it was planned a f&f 8-10 this guy was so great ... one of the big games ... R.I.P. i hope they not make the 3 movies with another actor and just let 7 be the last to his honor if they should finish 7. .. dont know
On December 01 2013 12:56 eonDE wrote: It's said he was a passenger with a friend driving in a Porsche. Where have I seen this before...all too often. Hitting a pole/tree no less. I am so gutted, rest in peace Walker.
Now what is going to happen to the series, were they still filming?
According to Wikipedia they were in the process of filming 7, which brought back Sean Boswell (Lucas Black) from the third film, and studios wanted an 8 and 9, too. If they really wanted to continue the series they could have Lucas Black replace Paul Walker as Vin Diesel's co-star.
Since these studios are in the market to make money, any F&F movie without Vin Diesel and Paul Walker might not do well financially. I know a lot of people hated Tokyo Drift (I personally liked it) because they considered it a "wannabe" since the two stars are not in it.
Principal shooting of the movie just started less than 3 months ago, without Walker it would be incredibly hard to finish the film as most scenes won't be there. I personally expect a cancellation but who knows... Damn...
Unlikely as in 3 months there has been lots of investment already. Like what will happen is they will just have a replacement. RIP Paul Walker.
On December 01 2013 13:13 Drake wrote: just read it few minutes ago ... omg and it was planned a f&f 8-10 this guy was so great ... one of the big games ... R.I.P. i hope they not make the 3 movies with another actor and just let 7 be the last to his honor if they should finish 7. .. dont know
in the movies he drove 600mph fly over buildings etc etc and in life you die while driving vs something real life sucks! oh i see he was not the driver
Reports are saying he was in a Porche Carrera GT as a passenger. He was at his charity event raising money for the Philippines showing off his car and driving friends in it. Looks like he let a friend drive it during the outing. This sucks.
I think the best thing they can do is have a scene in the movie explaining that Brian (Paul Walker), Mia, and their new born child go into hiding. In Fast 6, his family got kidnapped by the villain, so to prevent it from happening again, they decided to go into hiding. They can use all available footage they already filmed, but have it end like that for his character.
On December 01 2013 13:47 FinestHour wrote: so does anyone disagree that after looking at that photo of the crash that his friend was probably driving way over the speed limit
and possiblity intoxicated
Dont think drugs or alcohol were not a part of this. but I agree that speed was the main killer in the accident
People say he was turning a corner when they lost control. I can only imagine what it must have felt like to be him in those final moments and realizing the irony of the situation : S.
now if you hadn't seen it yet now would be a good time to watch Running Scared. I'm not gonna comment on how good that is, because hyped movies always disappoint, but the guy did indeed had much more talent than F&F franchise demanded.
I mean absolutely no respect to the guy. I feel for his family and fans but I had no idea that he was THIS big a super star... my fb is blowing up with posts
On December 01 2013 18:23 MooMooMugi wrote: What a tragedy... anyone know the cause of the accident? Was it reckless driving, driving under the influence, or car malfunction?
Reckless driving coupled with car malfunction (If I'm correct that is) Paul was in the passenger seat so we don't know whether he condoned the high speed car ride or not.
On December 01 2013 15:24 tshi wrote: People say he was turning a corner when they lost control. I can only imagine what it must have felt like to be him in those final moments and realizing the irony of the situation : S.
There's a youtube video of guys arriving at the scene seeing a burning car, supposedly the one Paul died in. I hope he at least died instantly and not from the flames, a much more horrible death.
The CEO of Paul Walker’s Always Evolving Rogers Rodas was the driver of the vehicle and also lost his life in the crash. He uploaded a picture of the car to Instagram just hours before the fatal crash.
On December 01 2013 15:24 tshi wrote: People say he was turning a corner when they lost control. I can only imagine what it must have felt like to be him in those final moments and realizing the irony of the situation : S.
I doubt the word irony entered his mind.
Its sad and i am convinced death was instant or never noticed, reasons follows. + Show Spoiler +
Im going to share what i thought when i lost control of my car and jumped a rail: "Fuck no you dont! *thought aimed at the car* RAIL!! Shit this is going to hurt. *tensing up for impact and jumping the rail* I refuse to die! *first impact* Please no death. I REFUSE so please please please plea... *then blank* I don't know when i blacked out exactly but it was after first impact and we were completely still when i came to. By applying logic i was out for at least a few minutes as the rail was lined with people when i looked up after coming to. This was only doing 70-85 Km/h ( 45-53 mph ). Going by this, If they survived the impact its unlikely they came to and noticed the fire. Being out (or dead) supports the fire to since if unconscious none would have turned of the electric system and the chance of fire greatly increases.
That's obviously very sad but i cant feel that much sympathy for someone dying during a joyride on public roads. At least they did not kill anybody else in the accident. You want to drive fast? Go on a close circuit, but otherwise don't put other people life in danger.
RIP. Holy crap how messed up the car is after that. So I'm guessing there was an explosion too since it makes very little sense that the back of the car is pretty much missing with just a fire...? Or did they hit something sideways so the car got somewhat torn in half?
Edit: And what's up with all these car crashes into fire? I thought that was more of a Hollywood thing?
That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
Its sad, I always liked him in the movies, didn't think he was great but he was an icon for the car/boost community//
The worst part is, apparently he was an amazing person off screen, had alot of charities going and the one he came from was a charity for the typhoon in the philipines. So much more respect to him for being that kind of person off stage.
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
Don't worry, cardboard mask does the trick when the main actor dies:
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
I think the after pics looks worse than what actually happened since the fire department most definitely cut the thing to pieces trying to get them out. Saw some pics on reddit and apparently just under where the wreckage is there is some sort of piping and some were speculating it could be a gas pipe I guess that could explain the car catching fire... So sad either way RIP.
On December 01 2013 15:24 tshi wrote: People say he was turning a corner when they lost control. I can only imagine what it must have felt like to be him in those final moments and realizing the irony of the situation : S.
I doubt the word irony entered his mind.
Its sad and i am convinced death was instant or never noticed, reasons follows. + Show Spoiler +
Im going to share what i thought when i lost control of my car and jumped a rail: "Fuck no you dont! *thought aimed at the car* RAIL!! Shit this is going to hurt. *tensing up for impact and jumping the rail* I refuse to die! *first impact* Please no death. I REFUSE so please please please plea... *then blank* I don't know when i blacked out exactly but it was after first impact and we were completely still when i came to. By applying logic i was out for at least a few minutes as the rail was lined with people when i looked up after coming to. This was only doing 70-85 Km/h ( 45-53 mph ). Going by this, If they survived the impact its unlikely they came to and noticed the fire. Being out (or dead) supports the fire to since if unconscious none would have turned of the electric system and the chance of fire greatly increases.
Sad for his daughter. He seemed like a nice guy. Good that no else was killed or injured in the crash except his friend. Had a simular incident where i live where someone was driving a sports car and lost control and hit a little child that was riding his bicycle on the pavement. Neither the child nor the driver made it. I just cant feel any sadness when wreckless drivers die due to their own stupidity. The roads will be a little bit safer from now on. RIP.
On December 02 2013 00:39 TheSwedishFan wrote: Sad for his daughter. He seemed like a nice guy. Good that no else was killed or injured in the crash except his friend. Had a simular incident where i live where someone was driving a sports car and lost control and hit a little child that was riding his bicycle on the pavement. Neither the child nor the driver made it. I just cant feel any sadness when wreckless drivers die due to their own stupidity. The roads will be a little bit safer from now on. RIP.
Apparently they are making the movie anyway, or at least that was the way I understood it. It will likely be the last though, I can't see how they could keep it going after this.
On December 01 2013 12:22 iSometric wrote: Just like Han in Tokyo Drift, sort of. Oh my god....
mind blown!
Porshe crashing into a tree and catching fire is pretty different from Mazda RX-7 being rammed by Mercedes CLS and possibly catching fire (I don't remember if it started all by itself or if Statham did something there).
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
No, that is disrespectful for the Walker family for Paul to die IN the movie too.
For anyone that is wondering, the driver was Roger Rodas, who is an experienced race car driver. You can Google him to find his race history.
I know that Paul Walker is more known than Roger Rodas when it comes to entertainment, but it is a little disheartening that people are not acknowledging Rodas. Some even blame him for the accident. We do not know whether that is true or not.
On December 02 2013 03:43 Squat wrote: Apparently they are making the movie anyway, or at least that was the way I understood it. It will likely be the last though, I can't see how they could keep it going after this.
Source? They planned the series up to 9 already. A possible scenario is that they stop filming for time to mourn, and then pick up filming again. They are about 3 or 4 months into filming and money has already been invested, but who knows.
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
No, that is disrespectful for the Walker family for Paul to die IN the movie too.
I know it can very quickly sound that way. But consider that most directors, if a stundman dies while filming a movie, they want that clip in the movie to honor his memory. Sure Paul is not a stuntman and he didn't die while filming, but it would in a way be honoring his memory if they kept him in the movie. The death needs to be tasteful (not gruesome), honorable and probably off camera though.
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
No, that is disrespectful for the Walker family for Paul to die IN the movie too.
I know it can very quickly sound that way. But consider that most directors, if a stundman dies while filming a movie, they want that clip in the movie to honor his memory. Sure Paul is not a stuntman and he didn't die while filming, but it would in a way be honoring his memory if they kept him in the movie. The death needs to be tasteful (not gruesome), honorable and probably off camera though.
They're best to ask permission from the Walker family. I still think they should use any available footage that they filmed so far, but have him and his family run off in the movie, which is another safe choice.
On December 01 2013 22:20 Squat wrote: That must have been some crash, that car was just a heap of mangled metal with wheels.
Walker was self described adrenaline junkie, driving a flashy car with his friend, it's not hard to imagine him taking some risks/going a little fast. I've got a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair after a crash into a tree, he was going too fast, lost control.
Shame, he seemed to be a pretty down to earth guy, involved in charity and other such projects.
He wasn't the driver though. Its incredible sad. I wonder how they are going to handle this with the next f&f movie. If they have some scenes shot, maybe they could edit them together to make it look like he dies in the movie too. Could be considered untasteful though. Depends on how its done I guess.
No, that is disrespectful for the Walker family for Paul to die IN the movie too.
For anyone that is wondering, the driver was Roger Rodas, who is an experienced race car driver. You can Google him to find his race history.
I know that Paul Walker is more known than Roger Rodas when it comes to entertainment, but it is a little disheartening that people are not acknowledging Rodas. Some even blame him for the accident. We do not know whether that is true or not.
On December 02 2013 03:43 Squat wrote: Apparently they are making the movie anyway, or at least that was the way I understood it. It will likely be the last though, I can't see how they could keep it going after this.
Source? They planned the series up to 9 already. A possible scenario is that they stop filming for time to mourn, and then pick up filming again. They are about 3 or 4 months into filming and money has already been invested, but who knows.
The new "Fast and Furious" movie was scheduled to shoot key scenes with Paul Walker this week -- and on the heels of his death, several members of the cast and crew say they won't be returning to the set anytime soon ... TMZ has learned.
Sources close to the production tell us most of the actors and crew were supposed to fly to Atlanta this weekend to resume filming on Tuesday ... but they're all expecting a halt in production.
Universal -- the studio behind the movie -- hasn't announced when, or if, they'll start shooting again ... but we're told some of the main stars are too distraught to work anyway.
According to our sources ... most of this week's scenes centered around Paul, so even if Universal were to go forward ... it would need major rewrites.
Ultimately, the biggest hurdle to completing 'FF7' could be the emotions of the actors. As one source put it, "No one wants to even think about the movie. Period."
We contacted Universal for comment ... no word back yet.
Real question is how fast does one have to be going for something like that to happen?
You don't need to go all that fast to wreak a car like that if you hit something like a tree head on. And it burned out as well.
Well what you need to do is hit the tree without slowing down. Most crashes are anticipated and people hit the breaks and slow down, that just looks like he slammed right into it without much slowing down.
Real question is how fast does one have to be going for something like that to happen?
You don't need to go all that fast to wreak a car like that if you hit something like a tree head on. And it burned out as well.
Well what you need to do is hit the tree without slowing down. Most crashes are anticipated and people hit the breaks and slow down, that just looks like he slammed right into it without much slowing down.
Or the speed was so great that it hit the tree at a high speed even after slowing down. It is also possible to crash in such a way that the car almost doesn't lose speed in the duration of the crash. Going airborn for example(hitting the curb or a speedbump can do that do you). You also lose a lot less speed going sideways than if you block the wheels heading straight forward. Not to mention weather (looks sunny in the photos tho). And then once you leave the tarmac, you lose all chance of slowing down without hitting something completely.
We can only speculate. For all we know the driver could have gotten a stroke. We have no idea what happened at this point except the outcome of it
Real question is how fast does one have to be going for something like that to happen?
You don't need to go all that fast to wreak a car like that if you hit something like a tree head on. And it burned out as well.
Well what you need to do is hit the tree without slowing down. Most crashes are anticipated and people hit the breaks and slow down, that just looks like he slammed right into it without much slowing down.
We can only speculate. For all we know the driver could have gotten a stroke. We have no idea what happened at this point except the outcome of it
I agree. It angers me that some are putting the blame on Roger Rodas (driver). Yes, he was the driver, but still... Some of the things I've read is just so insulting.
Paul Walker’s tragic death left the world heartbroken on Nov. 30. The 40-year-old ‘Fast & Furious’ actor died in a car crash in Santa Clarita after leaving a charity event. We had fallen in love with his character, Brian O’Conner, and now know that the cast and crew plan to pay a special tribute to Paul in the next film.
Fast & Furious 7 is currently in the process of filming, but after Paul Walker‘s shocking death, many were left wondering how the franchise would move forward. However, HollywoodLife.com can now tell you exclusively that the movie, slated to come out in July 2014, will honor the late star.
“Many people within the production haven’t even heard the tragic news because of the holidays, but its almost positive that the movie will still move forward in his honor,” a source close to the film’s cast told HollywoodLife.com exclusively. ”Once people get back to work on Monday, many meetings will be happening.”
Paul has starred in five of the six Fast & Furious films, plus was mid-way through filming the seventh when he tragically lost his life in a car crash.
Paul was the passenger in a Porsche GT during a charity event for his organization, Reach Out Worldwide, which was raising money for those affected by the typhoon in the Philippines. The driver of the car lost control, crashing into a tree, causing the car to burst into flames. Santa Clarita’s Sheriff’s Station confirmed to HollywoodLife.com that both men were pronounced dead at the scene.
Paul’s family took to his official Facebook page to release the following statement:
It is with a truly heavy heart that we must confirm that Paul Walker passed away today in a tragic car accident while attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide. He was a passenger in a friend’s car, in which both lost their lives. We appreciate your patience as we too are stunned and saddened beyond belief by this news. Thank you for keeping his family and friends in your prayers during this very difficult time. We will do our best to keep you apprised on where to send condolences. - #TeamPW
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
He never did any death-defying stuff, it was all stuntmen.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
He never did any death-defying stuff, it was all stuntmen.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
He never did any death-defying stuff, it was all stuntmen.
On December 02 2013 05:21 StarStruck wrote: Oh it happens. I've seen quite a number of crashes like that. Mostly Ferrari's and Porsche's. Not the type of vehicle you want to crash in.
Ferrari's love to catch fire. You don't even need to get in an accident really...
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
He never did any death-defying stuff, it was all stuntmen.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
He never did any death-defying stuff, it was all stuntmen.
Yeah if he was actually amazing at driving then it would be possible to consider it irony but it doesn't even matter since he wasn't at the wheel O_o.
Part of the reason the car wreck appears the way it does, is because the Carrera GT has a carbon fiber monocoque construction. There are infinite possibilities as to why the vehicle caught fire, but the chassis' continuous exposure to high temperatures would result in the degradation of the resin between the carbon strands, resulting in the fibers falling apart from one another. So essentially you end up with a pile of black stuff and wondering if the car had just melted.
The engine is located at the rear of the car, as is the fuel cell. This is probably the area where the fire started. The impact could have been strong enough to puncture the fuel components and ended up feeding the fire.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
Paul did -1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
He never did any death-defying stuff, it was all stuntmen.
Yeah if he was actually amazing at driving then it would be possible to consider it irony but it doesn't even matter since he wasn't at the wheel O_o.
Paul did have done several driving scenes himself in multiple F&F movies, he actually competed in a racing event before.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
It's both because he died in a car crash. You don't have to be the actual driver for it to be ironic smartass.
I'm sad that this guy died (and also the other guy in the car), but I always try to see the brightside. At least he was doing what he loved when he died and at least we won't have to be subjected to any more Fast & Furious movies.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
It's both because he died in a car crash. You don't have to be the actual driver for it to be ironic smartass.
On December 01 2013 18:18 Malinor wrote: Of course he died in a car accident, the irony.
RIP
It's not irony.
On December 01 2013 19:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Oh the irony...
Not irony.
On December 01 2013 15:50 LtCalley wrote: RIP, sad yet ironic way to go
Still not irony.
On December 01 2013 14:45 StarStruck wrote: That car is totaled and the irony. Oh well.
-1 irony
On December 01 2013 15:17 tshi wrote: Wow, that sucks and the irony is ridiculous. I liked his FF movies =(
There is no irony to be ridiculous.
On December 01 2013 12:32 Draconicfire wrote: RIP.
Can't get over how ironic it is, but it's really sad nonetheless.
But it's not ironic.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
How ironic coincidental that I was having this exact same discussion in my office this morning. (everyone saying its ironic when its a coincidence)
Laughed out loud, also in my office
The irony is he's known for his character in the movies that does death defying things in cars in the movies, then dies in a car on an regular day. Pretty sure that's irony.
That is not what irony means.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend. 2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated. b. (especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion. 3. Socratic irony. 4. dramatic irony. 5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
This was ridiculous because my girlfriend and I were watching 2 Fast 2 Furious on TV randomly the night he died, and afterwards I go on Facebook and "hey hun, you know the movie we just watched randomly because it was on? yeah the main character just died like an hour ago". Creepy.
On December 03 2013 10:18 StarStruck wrote: Sorry, I'm stuck on how pretty Denise Richard's used to be. It's all about how you frame it.
Dude, shes still hot!
On topic: On this type of Porche, the cars the engine is in the back and the feul tank is in the front of the car. So if they hit a streetlamp at a a reasonablely high speed in the front, it would start a fire instantly unless the fuel cells were full of flame resistant foam like they have in NASCAR. If race grade fuel cells were installed, the car would look alot less wrecked.
DFB16 the question is would you rather sleep with Denise when she was around 18-24 or in her 40's?
Back on point, yeah that's just another reason when these vehicles crash head on it isn't a pretty sight. I'll stick to driving around in Volvo's. I don't really need a vehicle like that. ;/
She has an ironic sense of humor. It's ironic that computers break down so often, since they're meant to save people time. It is ironic that the robber's car crashed into a police station.
Paul Walker, who plays the role of a hoon driver in a movie, has a porsche carrera GT and a multitude of other cars meant to be driven fast, dies in a car accident is not ironic.
It would be ironic if the intention of the drive was to promote safe driving, and he had an accident.
I see you still trying to drive that point home. You should look at it from the 5th bullet let me frame it better for you. He's known for playing a guy on screen who doesn't know how to die when it comes to cars yet he died in real life in a car crash. Like I said, it's all about how you frame it.
On December 03 2013 12:16 StarStruck wrote: I see you still trying to drive that point home. You should look at it from the 5th bullet let me frame it better for you. He's known for playing a guy on screen who doesn't know how to die when it comes to cars yet he died in real life in a car crash. Like I said, it's all about how you frame it.
Totally agree, ironic can be applied in this case, it's all depend how you look at it.
She has an ironic sense of humor. It's ironic that computers break down so often, since they're meant to save people time. It is ironic that the robber's car crashed into a police station.
Paul Walker, who plays the role of a hoon driver in a movie, has a porsche carrera GT and a multitude of other cars meant to be driven fast, dies in a car accident is not ironic.
It would be ironic if the intention of the drive was to promote safe driving, and he had an accident.
This is the kind of argument I'd expect to see on reddit. Why is it so important who's right and who's wrong?
On December 03 2013 11:27 StarStruck wrote: DFB16 the question is would you rather sleep with Denise when she was around 18-24 or in her 40's?
Back on point, yeah that's just another reason when these vehicles crash head on it isn't a pretty sight. I'll stick to driving around in Volvo's. I don't really need a vehicle like that. ;/
Denise sounds less uptight now that shes older.
The worst part of this story is that Paul died in front of his young daughter and girlfriend while they were watching the race. I cant even imagine the agony they must be in.
On December 03 2013 13:25 HighdraL1sk wrote: doesnt this situation fall under the #5 for the definition of irony?
That really sucks though
Its more specific than what is implied otherwise every death would be ironic because you almost never expect a celebrity to die.
Something outside of expectations isn't ironic, its ironic when its contrary to what is expected.
Paul Walker was obviously a car enthusiast. Using a brand of car that is known to be unreliable and being driven at high speeds (presumably) and having a bad accident, isn't outside the realm of expectations, its almost to be expected.
Its basically like saying, "its ironic that a drug dealer died by taking his own drugs". That's not ironic.
Another example would be if Sean Connery was assassinated by a spy, its still not ironic, its a coincidence.
On December 03 2013 12:16 StarStruck wrote: I see you still trying to drive that point home. You should look at it from the 5th bullet let me frame it better for you. He's known for playing a guy on screen who doesn't know how to die when it comes to cars yet he died in real life in a car crash. Like I said, it's all about how you frame it.
Thanks but its still not ironic. O'Conner just isn't dead... yet.
Travis Pastrana has almost died doing crazy stunts lots of times but isn't dead yet, if he somehow died in a motorcycle accident would you say that's ironic?
She has an ironic sense of humor. It's ironic that computers break down so often, since they're meant to save people time. It is ironic that the robber's car crashed into a police station.
Paul Walker, who plays the role of a hoon driver in a movie, has a porsche carrera GT and a multitude of other cars meant to be driven fast, dies in a car accident is not ironic.
It would be ironic if the intention of the drive was to promote safe driving, and he had an accident.
This is the kind of argument I'd expect to see on reddit. Why is it so important who's right and who's wrong?
Because its annoying to see a thread about somebody's death flooded with posts of "oh that's so ironic". Its actually kind of disrespectful.
On December 03 2013 10:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This was ridiculous because my girlfriend and I were watching 2 Fast 2 Furious on TV randomly the night he died, and afterwards I go on Facebook and "hey hun, you know the movie we just watched randomly because it was on? yeah the main character just died like an hour ago". Creepy.
On December 03 2013 21:36 pyrogenetix wrote: So sad... so sad... but people underestimate the power of supercars way too much.
Maybe some will do that a little less now. Would give his death a purpose if it saved some lifes. Just like the Fast and Furious films have cost lives by making more idiots use public roads as race tracks.
On December 03 2013 21:36 pyrogenetix wrote: So sad... so sad... but people underestimate the power of supercars way too much.
Maybe some will do that a little less now. Would give his death a purpose if it saved some lifes. Just like the Fast and Furious films have cost lives by making more idiots use public roads as race tracks.
How do you work that out? In all of the f&f movies, a lot of people die horribly from crashing in various ways. People who doesnt already race on roads usually goes "yepp. Not doing that".
On December 03 2013 21:36 pyrogenetix wrote: So sad... so sad... but people underestimate the power of supercars way too much.
Maybe some will do that a little less now. Would give his death a purpose if it saved some lifes. Just like the Fast and Furious films have cost lives by making more idiots use public roads as race tracks.
Holy crap, no. If idiots use public roads as race tracks, they cost peoples lives. No one is responsible for their actions but themselves (unless they're not adults, then their parents are responsible as well.)
On December 03 2013 10:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This was ridiculous because my girlfriend and I were watching 2 Fast 2 Furious on TV randomly the night he died, and afterwards I go on Facebook and "hey hun, you know the movie we just watched randomly because it was on? yeah the main character just died like an hour ago". Creepy.
Wow, that's really ironic.
so ironic so ironic so ironic so ironic
invincible fast car driver dies in a car crash .. so sad but so ironic so ironic
On December 04 2013 04:45 TheRealArtemis wrote: So are people just trolling now with the "how ironic". Its kinda becoming a meme, seeing it everywhere now >__>
That being said, I hated his movies, but I feel sad for his family and friends.
Yep, just leave them to their own thing. :V As for the other person right above me, why would you say something like that? He was already pretty rich. Heck, he put another couple's $10,000 engagement ring on his tab anonymously. Not many people do that. :V
On December 03 2013 10:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This was ridiculous because my girlfriend and I were watching 2 Fast 2 Furious on TV randomly the night he died, and afterwards I go on Facebook and "hey hun, you know the movie we just watched randomly because it was on? yeah the main character just died like an hour ago". Creepy.
if it was on tv, i'm sure there were hundreds of thousands who watched it, and then there are people who might have rented the movie or downloaded it on same day. not the least bit creepy actually.
I don't want to be a bummer here, it seems like Paul Walker was a great guy and whatnot, but we're talking about a guy who bought a fancy ring here.
Now I recognize that it seems nice, but as far as I'm concerned, this story annoys the fuck out of me. "He was a soldier who's back from Iraq" which, sigh, fine. And then he buys a $10k ring. Gotta get dem blood diamonds going. Plus now the guy didn't even earn the ring, he just gave a worthless piece of rare materials that he got for free...
This anecdote pales in comparison to basically everything else that people are saying about him. Hopefully fancy jewelry isn't what people are going to remember.
I don't want to be a bummer here, it seems like Paul Walker was a great guy and whatnot, but we're talking about a guy who bought a fancy ring here.
Now I recognize that it seems nice, but as far as I'm concerned, this story annoys the fuck out of me. "He was a soldier who's back from Iraq" which, sigh, fine. And then he buys a $10k ring. Gotta get dem blood diamonds going. Plus now the guy didn't even earn the ring, he just gave a worthless piece of rare materials that he got for free...
This anecdote pales in comparison to basically everything else that people are saying about him. Hopefully fancy jewelry isn't what people are going to remember.
Unfortunately the women I know remember such gifts. Women and their diamonds. I just see this as a little anecdote and he wanted to give a helping hand. It's a nice gesture.
IN A spooky development, footage of Paul Walker attending a funeral in the upcoming installment of The Fast and The Furious 7 has been leaked around the time of his death. The footage shows Walker's character, Brian O'Conner, attending the funeral of Han and Gisele, who died at the end of the sixth film.
But what is sure to have hearts racing at Universal Pictures is a conversation between O'Conner and Tyrese Gibson's character, Roman Pierce. "Promise me Brian, no more funerals," says Gibson. "Just one more"," Walker says.
The conversation is in reference to Jason Statham's character Ian Shaw, who was introduced in the sixth installment and set-up as the villain for the upcoming movie.
IN A spooky development, footage of Paul Walker attending a funeral in the upcoming installment of The Fast and The Furious 7 has been leaked around the time of his death. The footage shows Walker's character, Brian O'Conner, attending the funeral of Han and Gisele, who died at the end of the sixth film.
But what is sure to have hearts racing at Universal Pictures is a conversation between O'Conner and Tyrese Gibson's character, Roman Pierce. "Promise me Brian, no more funerals," says Gibson. "Just one more"," Walker says.
The conversation is in reference to Jason Statham's character Ian Shaw, who was introduced in the sixth installment and set-up as the villain for the upcoming movie.
Don't see how thats eerie. Everyone is glaring at the bad guy in the scene. Connor(Paul) even follows up with "his", while nodding at the bad guy.
Excerpt: Attorney General Eric Holder has moved to appeal a judge's ruling allowing the House of Representatives to continue with a contempt case stemming from his refusal to turn over documents related to the Justice Department's response to the Operation Fast and Furious gunwalking controversy. In a motion filed Friday night, the Justice Department asked U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson to allow it to take an appeal now in the lawsuit stemming from President Barack Obama's decision to invoke executive privilege and the House's subsequent votes last year holding Holder in contempt. The Obama administration urged Jackson to throw out the case on the grounds that the courts could not or should not resolve such disputes between the executive and legislative branches. But in a September ruling, the judge--an Obama appointee--rejected that position. The new motion (posted here) asks Jackson to allow the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to weigh in on that question before the case continues. "Absent settlement (which depends on the willingness of both parties to achieve a negotiated resolution), or an immediate appeal, this Court will proceed toward deciding the scope of the President's assertion of Executive Privilege in response to a congressional demand, and will do so absent a definitive ruling from the Circuit that such a novel judicial inquiry, in a suit instituted by a Committee of Congress, is appropriate under the law, including the Constitution," the DOJ motion argues.
Coincidence? governments involved in the illegal gun trade and drug smuggling with mexico, dont think killing someone is beneath them if it provides the perfect cover for the recent legal revelations. That is the reason the movie series was named what it was in the first place, the timing is perfect.
IN A spooky development, footage of Paul Walker attending a funeral in the upcoming installment of The Fast and The Furious 7 has been leaked around the time of his death. The footage shows Walker's character, Brian O'Conner, attending the funeral of Han and Gisele, who died at the end of the sixth film.
But what is sure to have hearts racing at Universal Pictures is a conversation between O'Conner and Tyrese Gibson's character, Roman Pierce. "Promise me Brian, no more funerals," says Gibson. "Just one more"," Walker says.
The conversation is in reference to Jason Statham's character Ian Shaw, who was introduced in the sixth installment and set-up as the villain for the upcoming movie.
Don't see how thats eerie. Everyone is glaring at the bad guy in the scene. Connor(Paul) even follows up with "his", while nodding at the bad guy.
Yes, obviously they're all referring to Statham's character, but some just find it weird that the line came out of Paul Walker's mouth and it being a funeral scene.
On December 01 2013 12:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Somewhat ironic, but he was a good actor on stage and a good person off stage.
RIP.
It's not even somewhat ironic.
My thoughts:
Wow, what a weird coincidence that he would be in a series of movies with fast cars, explosions, and of course, exploding cars, and then die in a car explosion.
But, would you concede that it was ironic that the car crash into a speed limit sign ?
Ok shit I'm tired of that. Ok, he died, that's sad and all, we can mourn, but why is it like the most published and shared event everywhere for like the last 5 years ? Complete with wars, catastrophies, genocides, elections etc... Aren't there more important things happening for these years ?
I don't want to be disrespectful but he's "just" a hollywood actor from action movies... Worst is they are still gonna get that movie out, which I find really disrespectful. Making money on dead people isn't a hommage, it's an outrage. And it's gonna sell a awful lot mostly because he's dead.
On December 05 2013 05:12 Nouar wrote: Ok shit I'm tired of that. Ok, he died, that's sad and all, we can mourn, but why is it like the most published and shared event everywhere for like the last 5 years ? Complete with wars, catastrophies, genocides, elections etc... Aren't there more important things happening for these years ?
I don't want to be disrespectful but he's "just" a hollywood actor from action movies... Worst is they are still gonna get that movie out, which I find really disrespectful. Making money on dead people isn't a hommage, it's an outrage. And it's gonna sell a awful lot mostly because he's dead.
What you consider disrespectful doesn't mean others agree. Going forward with the movie means additional resources for the family he left behind, including his 15 year old daughter.
On December 05 2013 05:12 Nouar wrote: Ok shit I'm tired of that. Ok, he died, that's sad and all, we can mourn, but why is it like the most published and shared event everywhere for like the last 5 years ? Complete with wars, catastrophies, genocides, elections etc... Aren't there more important things happening for these years ?
I don't want to be disrespectful but he's "just" a hollywood actor from action movies... Worst is they are still gonna get that movie out, which I find really disrespectful. Making money on dead people isn't a hommage, it's an outrage. And it's gonna sell a awful lot mostly because he's dead.
What you consider disrespectful doesn't mean others agree. Going forward with the movie means additional resources for the family he left behind, including his 15 year old daughter.
Do you think they are in need ? :-D It surely means more money for the producers though ! He earned 39M$ for the 6 Fast and Furious. I don't think they lack resources, but the movie still going out is not my main point.
On December 05 2013 05:12 Nouar wrote: Ok shit I'm tired of that. Ok, he died, that's sad and all, we can mourn, but why is it like the most published and shared event everywhere for like the last 5 years ? Complete with wars, catastrophies, genocides, elections etc... Aren't there more important things happening for these years ?
I don't want to be disrespectful but he's "just" a hollywood actor from action movies... Worst is they are still gonna get that movie out, which I find really disrespectful. Making money on dead people isn't a hommage, it's an outrage. And it's gonna sell a awful lot mostly because he's dead.
What you consider disrespectful doesn't mean others agree. Going forward with the movie means additional resources for the family he left behind, including his 15 year old daughter.
Do you think they are in need ? :-D It surely means more money for the producers though ! He earned 39M$ for the 6 Fast and Furious. I don't think they lack resources, but the movie still going out is not my main point.
It would be incredible disrespectful to NOT use footage from him in the next movie. Think about. It was his life, what he did. He's put a lot of work sweat and tears into that movie, and then they suddenly decide to not use his footage? The biggest problem isn't whether they where going to use the footage or not, its HOW they are going to use it.
On December 05 2013 06:19 Darkren wrote: Sad for him
But maybe they can finnaly bury fast and furious forever
Will probably get more popular than it has ever been. See Batman and Heath Ledger.
Ah C'mon. Fast and furious movies weren't popular because of Paul walker.
Heath Ledger's brilliant version of the Joker SAVED batman. I doubt anybody think Paul Walker did a brilliant job with with the F&F series.
People like them because its popcorn type movie, you sit down with a couple of friends, beer and pizza and power down. People don't watch them (I hope) because they are interesting movies with character development. its fast cars, and things blow up.
On December 05 2013 06:19 Darkren wrote: Sad for him
But maybe they can finnaly bury fast and furious forever
Will probably get more popular than it has ever been. See Batman and Heath Ledger.
Ah C'mon. Fast and furious movies weren't popular because of Paul walker.
Heath Ledger's brilliant version of the Joker SAVED batman. I doubt anybody think Paul Walker did a brilliant job with with the F&F series.
People like them because its popcorn type movie, you sit down with a couple of friends, beer and pizza and power down. People don't watch them (I hope) because they are interesting movies with character development. its fast cars, and things blow up.
You don't even need to spend a minute on any social media right now to understand people miss the guy. They are going to go watch the last movie he will ever be in. Heath Ledger was absolutely brilliant no doubt, but it wouldn't have been near as popular in the opening weeks if not for the massive hype surrounding his death.
And even if that wasn't true. Like you said, F&F wasn't popular because of him. They're not going to just stop making a cash cow all of a sudden because of the death of an actor.
F&F wasn't popular because of him, but after a lot of episodes with that guy, I'll miss him. Especially in the last 2/3 episodes where characters were a good part of the fun.
there's like a debate in the internet right now on how should Paul Walker's character be treated in F&F 7. it's either he dies in a car crash (which most think is disrespectful') or he retires and lives happily with his wife.
On December 05 2013 11:11 icystorage wrote: there's like a debate in the internet right now on how should Paul Walker's character be treated in F&F 7. it's either he dies in a car crash (which most think is disrespectful') or he retires and lives happily with his wife.
The last three movies built up the whole "we're a family", so that goes against the idea of having Brian, Mia, and their new born child flee into hiding. Some say recast the character, but that can be seen as disrespectful too and I'm sure some of the cast would not be comfortable with that idea. The worst they can do is kill off the character. Regardless, it is a sticky situation.
On December 05 2013 11:11 icystorage wrote: there's like a debate in the internet right now on how should Paul Walker's character be treated in F&F 7. it's either he dies in a car crash (which most think is disrespectful') or he retires and lives happily with his wife.
The last three movies built up the whole "we're a family", so that goes against the idea of having Brian, Mia, and their new born child flee into hiding. Some say recast the character, but that can be seen as disrespectful too and I'm sure some of the cast would not be comfortable with that idea. The worst they can do is kill off the character. Regardless, it is a sticky situation.
Dude, actors who are ten times the talent Paul Walker ever was or ever could imagined to be if he were alive have died and have their characters be re-casted. I don't understand where all this deference is coming from considering that no one even knew who Paul Walker was in between FF movies.
The only reason not to recast is because it's too soon and too awkward. Just write him out somehow and cast a new pretty boy.
They pretty much already did that by bringing back Lucas Black from Tokyo Drift since the beginning of filming. People said the same thing about recasting someone for Joker after Ledger's death, but Nolan and the cast didn't want that. This will probably be the same in this situation. Even if Universal was to recast, I wouldn't be surprised if people like Vin Diesel drop out. The whole cast is very close with one another. They even refused to go back to work when the death of Walker surfaced.
This isn't the matter of talent and how known Paul Walker was. The movies have been around for so long that there is a huge fan base, which allowed Universal to keep making these movies because they end up being successful financially and sometimes critically.
That doesn't mean there won't be another joker in another batman movie. Of course Nolan can't recast joker since he was only making a trilogy. having 2 different jokers in 2 different movies is too jarring for the movie going public. but Joker and Paul Walker's character are on completely different levels of notoriety. How many people here even know what Paul Walker's name was in FF?
On December 05 2013 14:37 gg_hertzz wrote: That doesn't mean there won't be another joker in another batman movie. Of course Nolan can't recast joker since he was only making a trilogy. having 2 different jokers in 2 different movies is too jarring for the movie going public. but Joker and Paul Walker's character are on completely different levels of notoriety. How many people here even know what Paul Walker's name was in FF?
That's still the same thing. Every Batman movie is in their own universe whether it's Nolan's trilogy or Schumacher's. The difference with Schumacher's recasting of Bruce Wayne/Batman is that Val Kilmer didn't want to return and the actor and director had a hard time working together. As for the F&F movies, they're all connected and in the same series, so a recasting after an actor's death is a difficult choice. Anyone that has seen the movies or just one would know his name if they have good hearing and paid attention.
Much easier to get away with replacing a secondary or less important character, especially when that character is a generic old bearded man playing the 1000th iteration of Merlin. It clearly would be harder to replace essentially the face of a decade+ old franchise. People would have trouble accepting that.
On December 05 2013 11:11 icystorage wrote: there's like a debate in the internet right now on how should Paul Walker's character be treated in F&F 7. it's either he dies in a car crash (which most think is disrespectful') or he retires and lives happily with his wife.
The character could also get killed off-screen by the BBEG before the events of the movie start. That'd be a motivator.
On December 05 2013 11:11 icystorage wrote: there's like a debate in the internet right now on how should Paul Walker's character be treated in F&F 7. it's either he dies in a car crash (which most think is disrespectful') or he retires and lives happily with his wife.
The character could also get killed off-screen by the BBEG before the events of the movie start. That'd be a motivator.
Yeah its just too ironic to kill him in a car-crash in the movie... It's bad enough as it is. Maybe they can just stand vigil for him in the movie and mention that a bad guy killed him somehow.
On December 05 2013 11:11 icystorage wrote: there's like a debate in the internet right now on how should Paul Walker's character be treated in F&F 7. it's either he dies in a car crash (which most think is disrespectful') or he retires and lives happily with his wife.
The character could also get killed off-screen by the BBEG before the events of the movie start. That'd be a motivator.
Yeah its just too ironic to kill him in a car-crash in the movie... It's bad enough as it is. Maybe they can just stand vigil for him in the movie and mention that a bad guy killed him somehow.
I'd like that much better than including his scenes.
Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Just have one set of bad guys murdering the guy off screen. The gang found out and exact revenge upon the bad guys. That's it! No hard feelings, people won't even know that he died in real life.
Beside FFs needs to get back to actual racing and no an action flick that occasionally features car chases.
Hey isn't that asian guy dead too?
Yeah have Connor die too and then the gang separates, perfect ending to the franchise.
It will feel more authentic because it doesn't follow the good ol Deux Ex Machina that the heroes always live. It will be a nice change of pace for once in hollywood movies.
I like the Lucas black idea. just give Paul walker's character a happily ever after ending. then have Lucas black come in to avenge Han. Han was black's mentor anyway. and they in Tokyo again.
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
I hope that they filmed the final scenes where all his stories are resolved and he is just laying back in a house with his wife and kid, so they put that at the beginning and end Bryan story like that, maybe plugging him in for one or two short scenes where he helps the gang from behind the scenes, but I kinda want them to not use Paul character in this movie, not because it would be disrespectful, but because if they use Bryan, they won't get any time to developp his replacement and the movie will suck.
The best way to honor Walker isn't to use his material, but to keep Fast and Furious franchise going on without him, or to end it totally and start something new, in his honor acknowleding that there can t really be F&F without Bryan, since he was the centerpiece.
On December 06 2013 02:21 Xiphos wrote: You guys are overthinking way too much.
Just have one set of bad guys murdering the guy off screen. The gang found out and exact revenge upon the bad guys. That's it! No hard feelings, people won't even know that he died in real life.
Beside FFs needs to get back to actual racing and no an action flick that occasionally features car chases.
Hey isn't that asian guy dead too?
Yeah have Connor die too and then the gang separates, perfect ending to the franchise.
It will feel more authentic because it doesn't follow the good ol Deux Ex Machina that the heroes always live. It will be a nice change of pace for once in hollywood movies.
All things considered, it'd be pretty distasteful to have a character killed off because he died in real life. It'd feel like they'd basically be discarding him and moving on like he never really mattered.
On December 06 2013 02:21 Xiphos wrote: You guys are overthinking way too much.
Just have one set of bad guys murdering the guy off screen. The gang found out and exact revenge upon the bad guys. That's it! No hard feelings, people won't even know that he died in real life.
Beside FFs needs to get back to actual racing and no an action flick that occasionally features car chases.
Hey isn't that asian guy dead too?
Yeah have Connor die too and then the gang separates, perfect ending to the franchise.
It will feel more authentic because it doesn't follow the good ol Deux Ex Machina that the heroes always live. It will be a nice change of pace for once in hollywood movies.
All things considered, it'd be pretty distasteful to have a character killed off because he died in real life. It'd feel like they'd basically be discarding him and moving on like he never really mattered.
Storywise, him dying in the movie sets up an even bigger revenge plot. But yeah you'd have to be heartless to force the whole studio and its cast to go through that. Not to mention his fans. No way they can try this. I'd also like them to use whatever they had filmed and I guess work it so him and his family goes into hiding. But really, whatever his friends and family think is "appropriate" is fine by me. I'll see the movie regardless of what they do.
It's disgusting to see some of the comments in this thread. He's still a human being with family, friends and millions of fans. Not his fault the world worships celebrities. And who are they to judge the value of a life?
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
It was pretty damn obvious to most people or are you honestly saying that you believed them to drive at 45? Also yes the link i posted today was the confirmation of it but most news were already mentioning that people had seen them drive what seemed way faster than the 45
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
It was pretty damn obvious to most people or are you honestly saying that you believed them to drive at 45? Also yes the link i posted today was the confirmation of it but most news were already mentioning that people had seen them drive what seemed way faster than the 45
I think you need to look up the word "assume" in the dictionary. I'm done feeding troll baits.
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
It was pretty damn obvious to most people or are you honestly saying that you believed them to drive at 45? Also yes the link i posted today was the confirmation of it but most news were already mentioning that people had seen them drive what seemed way faster than the 45
I think you need to look up the word "assume" in the dictionary. I'm done feeding troll baits.
You've come off as a much bigger troll in this exchange.
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
It was pretty damn obvious to most people or are you honestly saying that you believed them to drive at 45? Also yes the link i posted today was the confirmation of it but most news were already mentioning that people had seen them drive what seemed way faster than the 45
I think you need to look up the word "assume" in the dictionary. I'm done feeding troll baits.
You've come off as a much bigger troll in this exchange.
Stop crossing pity with ignorance.
Why am I even bothering? When I said, a month ago, don't judge until we know for SURE. You guys kept assuming and judging, and then you come back a month later and say "see? I told you so!". I never said he didn't drive fast, I said we don't KNOW, and we should fucking act like it. Is this kindergarten or what?
edit: Also, words like "its obvious", "everyone knew" and other ad hominem is not a good way to go about a discussion without turning it into an argument. You should look into that.
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
It was pretty damn obvious to most people or are you honestly saying that you believed them to drive at 45? Also yes the link i posted today was the confirmation of it but most news were already mentioning that people had seen them drive what seemed way faster than the 45
I think you need to look up the word "assume" in the dictionary. I'm done feeding troll baits.
You've come off as a much bigger troll in this exchange.
Stop crossing pity with ignorance.
Why am I even bothering? When I said, a month ago, don't judge until we know for SURE. You guys kept assuming and judging, and then you come back a month later and say "see? I told you so!". I never said he didn't drive fast, I said we don't KNOW, and we should fucking act like it. Is this kindergarten or what?
edit: Also, words like "its obvious", "everyone knew" and other ad hominem is not a good way to go about a discussion without turning it into an argument. You should look into that.
He may have been driving fast, but the real question, I think, is was he driving while furious? That certainly would be very ironic.
On December 06 2013 02:11 pellejohnson wrote: Personally I find it pretty hard to feel sorry about someone who died in a "self caused" accident. I know he wasn't the driver but they were driving way faster than the speed limit and was not only risking their own lives but also the one of innocent people.
If they would have stuck to the speed limit I doubt this accident would have happened
Where did you read they where going "way faster than the speed limit"? I repeat: please stop assuming things. Accidents like this can happen at the speed limit too. Remember the car took fire and melted. Thats the remains you see. You have no way of discerning how fast they where going.
It was mentioned all over the news and it was pretty damn obvious by most people. Also now it's confirmed that they drove at 100mph, more than twice the allowed speed thus I don't give a crap about two guys risking the life of innocent people
Good of you to link to an article published today to prove wrong my one month old post. I said don't "presume". At the time of writing, nothing was obvious, nothing was proven, and we don't need you to be captain hindsight about it.
It was pretty damn obvious to most people or are you honestly saying that you believed them to drive at 45? Also yes the link i posted today was the confirmation of it but most news were already mentioning that people had seen them drive what seemed way faster than the 45
I think you need to look up the word "assume" in the dictionary. I'm done feeding troll baits.
You've come off as a much bigger troll in this exchange.
Stop crossing pity with ignorance.
Why am I even bothering? When I said, a month ago, don't judge until we know for SURE. You guys kept assuming and judging, and then you come back a month later and say "see? I told you so!". I never said he didn't drive fast, I said we don't KNOW, and we should fucking act like it. Is this kindergarten or what?
edit: Also, words like "its obvious", "everyone knew" and other ad hominem is not a good way to go about a discussion without turning it into an argument. You should look into that.
He may have been driving fast, but the real question, I think, is was he driving while furious? That certainly would be very ironic.
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