EPTGetting Away with a Bannable Offense - Page 9
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Morzas
United States387 Posts
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ToT)Testie(
Canada723 Posts
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
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rpf289
United States3524 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On September 05 2006 13:02 CleaR wrote: fuck all of you i hate this shit place I thought clear was an awesome guy who made that TL monopoly thread?? | ||
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baal
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that admin shoud definitelly loose all his powers asap. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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Illuvatar
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On September 05 2006 16:51 Drowsy wrote: So why'd nony just get temp banned? No way in shit am I reading through 9 pages. On September 05 2006 11:29 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Had to do it. For the sake of the topic. not quite sure actually.. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On September 05 2006 16:30 ToT)Testie( wrote: There. ;p And three posts already!  | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On September 05 2006 16:48 skyglow1 wrote: I thought clear was an awesome guy who made that TL monopoly thread?? He's not really a unique person, his founders still live. ;p | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
1. It kicks out lower-post-count members that make a mistake yet could have stayed on and been productive. Granted, this case probably isn't that common. 2. It forces mods into tricky, subjective decisions about who to ban. Generally, you only have one variable, or how bad the offense was (fairly easy to manage), but when you add the element of the poster's general record, you blur the line significantly more. Blurred lines generate confusion and complaints. Mods might not ban little-contributing posters that they like somewhat, or ban contributing posters that they don't like--personal feelings, although probably surpressed by the good moderator, still play a role. But actually, mods might not even know a poster's record very well, and only have a random (thus potentially skewed) idea of what the poster posts like. 3. Established posters post trash sometimes. This trash is really no different than trash posted by anyone else--it's a bad thing. The current system allows these posters to continue posting as such, at least to a reasonable extent. But again, what is reasonable? 4. Mostly, only established posters have the comfot, if not the leeway, to make elaborate jokes like Hot_Bid's most gosu recent example. Lower-post members are an unexcavated mine, an untapped resource of great comedic gems, but they're restricted by timidity in the face of the system. Granted, some of the timidity comes from not being as familiar with the site and its inhabitants. Erg, I could think of more if I didn't have my impending schoolwork and good attributes of the system hanging in front of me, obstructing my view. :/ Oh, I've forgotten--are new users required to read the Ten Commandments as they're signing up? If not, maybe it should be in one of the registration pages, eh? Or do people just click a box or something without actually reading, like they do when installing software? | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4174 Posts
I remeber beyonder used to hate that i wasent ban but I never got temp ban or ban.. i dont even think temp bans existed back then now i just post randomly and try to help people with their computers | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On September 05 2006 16:48 skyglow1 wrote: I thought clear was an awesome guy who made that TL monopoly thread?? nah, it was clear_ with a underscore. he's just an imposter  | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On September 05 2006 20:22 Myrmidon wrote: 1. It kicks out lower-post-count members that make a mistake yet could have stayed on and been productive. Granted, this case probably isn't that common. I'm gonna say not common. Because we generally don't ban on "a mistake". As a mod, it's VERY easy to look at someone's posting history and find out if it's a pattern or not. 2. It forces mods into tricky, subjective decisions about who to ban. Generally, you only have one variable, or how bad the offense was (fairly easy to manage), but when you add the element of the poster's general record, you blur the line significantly more. Blurred lines generate confusion and complaints. Mods might not ban little-contributing posters that they like somewhat, or ban contributing posters that they don't like--personal feelings, although probably surpressed by the good moderator, still play a role. But actually, mods might not even know a poster's record very well, and only have a random (thus potentially skewed) idea of what the poster posts like. Again it's very easy to bring up all of a user's posts for us... and generally speaking, if the line is just THAT blurred, we'll either let something slide, do a temp ban, or consult other mods. 3. Established posters post trash sometimes. This trash is really no different than trash posted by anyone else--it's a bad thing. The current system allows these posters to continue posting as such, at least to a reasonable extent. But again, what is reasonable? That's part of why I like TL.net though, it's meant to be a relaxed environment. And keep in mind, it's not just trash if there is comedic value. Again I can't really stress just how easy it is for us to determine if someone has a HABIT of posting trash and adding nothing to the site, vs if they add to it in some way. I don't think there was a single banning that I've ever disagreed with. 4. Mostly, only established posters have the comfot, if not the leeway, to make elaborate jokes like Hot_Bid's most gosu recent example. Lower-post members are an unexcavated mine, an untapped resource of great comedic gems, but they're restricted by timidity in the face of the system. Granted, some of the timidity comes from not being as familiar with the site and its inhabitants. Two things about this: 1) I think people SHOULD be a little timid at first until they get a feel for how things are done around here. This is true of not just an internet message board, this is true of everything in life. If you're walking into an established place with an established atmosphere, you're just gonna chill back a bit until you get the flow of things. THEN you start testing your boundries and relax a little because you know what is and is not acceptable. This would be the equivolent of say, to give you an example of something I saw a couple days ago on Labor Day, going with your girlfriend to a family gathering of hers, where you don't know anybody. You're going to be polite and quiet until you start to feel comfortable around everyone. That's just natural. ^_^ 2) This does go back to perception; I think it's relatively easy to spot someone who, in less than 100 posts, you can sit back and say, "Wow, I can really see the potential in this guy." Again to give a fresh example, there is a poster here named Asjo who did something a little out of line for the atmosphere of this place... but after looking at his history, and talking via a couple PMs, I could really tell that I wanted him to hang around here, and he has. Oh, I've forgotten--are new users required to read the Ten Commandments as they're signing up? If not, maybe it should be in one of the registration pages, eh? Or do people just click a box or something without actually reading, like they do when installing software? I don't think we do, nor should we have to. I hate the idea of having a rigid set of rules, and I think I speak for most (all?) of the other mods when I say that. Hell, even Mensrea's little disclaimer in the 10 Commandments post says basically that. We don't cram rules down your throat, and that, again, is something I love about TL.net.  | ||
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Aileon
United States299 Posts
Sorry all! t.t | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On September 04 2006 15:00 NonY wrote: Have you ever been temp-banned or received threats? no On September 04 2006 15:00 NonY wrote: Have you noticed identical content from two posters, one of which is acceptable and the other not (perhaps even resulting in a ban)? Does that bother you? no On September 04 2006 15:00 NonY wrote: Have you noticed anyone who has, at one point, made contributions but by now has probably out-weighed those positive contributions with too many negatives? probably yes. very subjective matter. | ||
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