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On October 03 2013 06:34 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:29 AdamBanks wrote:On October 03 2013 05:44 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 05:36 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 05:21 Helios.Star wrote:On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Handling the situation with finesse probably went out the window when they heard the guy was ordering hits on people... The "hit" seems more like it was a con, but I'm not going to defend DPR. SR was quite a mess as a website or an exchange, and he seems to have been pretty bad at running such a service. I still maintain that it was a move up from how people bought drugs 10 years ago, and even if the owner seemed quite incompetent that doesn't mean that the business conducted there wasn't more civilized (there was still plenty of shady shit going on, including scams, but less than you would expect from face-to-face drug dealing). I don't care about the fact that the drug user is less likely to be scammed (I would rather they be scammed more often anyway so they would be motivated to cease their illegal activity). What really matters is that they are putting money into very bad people's hands, I don't care if they are dealing with the gangs and cartels on the street or dealing with them through the anonymity of the internet. Whether they are funding crime face to face or through their computer screen, they are funding criminal behavior either way. Is it just me or would we be better off if people who thought so simplistically ceased to exist. i find this post amusing given the simplistic nature in which you have addressed this issue.
I fear a more subtle rebuke would be lost on such a thoughtful and perceptive mind.
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On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services.
damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words.
SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG.
so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on?
DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg
wrip
hbmrt0
gi0´
hu´
wogrhujbü
smhu9q
64hüogrt
j
qßó4tz8i+
hja´
8z´
4thjß´mhu´54z
all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS.
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On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:
DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg
wrip
hbmrt0
gi0´
hu´
wogrhujbü
smhu9q
64hüogrt
j
qßó4tz8i+
hja´
8z´
4thjß´mhu´54z
Listen kids, this is your brain on drugs. You know shit is bad when the foreign letters start showing up.
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On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS.
It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals.
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Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy.On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic.
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On October 03 2013 06:47 Erik.TheRed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:
DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg
wrip
hbmrt0
gi0´
hu´
wogrhujbü
smhu9q
64hüogrt
j
qßó4tz8i+
hja´
8z´
4thjß´mhu´54z
Listen kids, this is your brain on drugs. You know shit is bad when the foreign letters start showing up.
i'm german, i'm allowed to use these letters!
On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals.
well? sounds like you dont smoke yourself. cause if you were a smoker, you'd realize that a realiable service like that is a heaven-sent to millions of millions of people.
also, there's quite a few enlightening substances other than weed. meh. i feel bad arguing about this, cause i dont wanna make anyone use anything. but if anyone wanted to they should have a reliable service like SR.
if you knew how the scene was working right now, you'd know what dealers try to sell as LSD or MDMA. there was a small study on "street MDMA pills" showing that 90 of 130 tested pills had meth in them. hooray for street corners.
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On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals.
The rcmp is currently throwing down money in an attempt to establish a market place, thats been in the news, whats not in the news is that the people who are getting these contracts from government are ....CRIMINALS dundundun...so when this stuff does become legal here there will be no real change in who is profiting now verses after the next election. Anyway its much more complex than passing a law.
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On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think the complete (almost) anonymity a silk road vendor could have decreases the need for drug dealers to be a part of a criminal organization. Prohibition does not seem to considerably decrease demand, so I think silk road closing down did the complete opposite of what you're arguing.
To extrapolate on my argument, a lot of cannabis on silk road was legally grown in Netherlands or California, that is never the case with weed you would get "on the street".
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On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use Pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic.
Its not hypocritical at all, I would just ask people to wait for proper channels to be opened up for them to purchase their drugs from, regardless of what you want, it is always going to be wrong to giving money to dangerous criminal organizations. The problem comes from the substance being illegal, legalizing it would solve many problems but until then I want people to be punished for funding criminal gangs just for a cheap high.
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On October 03 2013 06:59 barth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think the complete (almost) anonymity a silk road vendor could have decreases the need for drug dealers to be a part of a criminal organization. Prohibition does not seem to considerably decrease demand, so I think silk road closing down did the complete opposite of what you're arguing.
Your friendly, independent neighborhood drug grower is not going to be able produce and transport on as a large a scale as a criminal organization which would lead me to believe their is still a large component coming from dangerous groups. The percentage of product coming from gangs and cartels probably increases as you start getting into the harder drugs as well.
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On October 03 2013 06:59 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use Pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic. Its not hypocritical at all, I would just ask people to wait for proper channels to be opened up for them to purchase their drugs from, regardless of what you want, it is always going to be wrong to giving money to dangerous criminal organizations. The problem comes from the substance being illegal, legalizing it would solve many problems but until then I want people to be punished for funding criminal gangs just for a cheap high.
dude, you are talking fantasy. people WILL take drugs, period. in fact, if you legalize cannabis the amount of regular smokers won't even increase.
how long do you want to make people wait? decades? centuries? i'm sorry, we don't live that long as human beings.
yes, everyone realizes that legalization solves problems. but in the majority of countries it's not gonna happen in our lifetimes.
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On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS.
Might want to keep it civil. We aren't arguing against stuff like legalization and marijuana. The problem is when some idiot tries out heroine, gets addicted, fucks up his life, fucks up some other people's lives, then proceeds to be a mole on the ass of society for the next few years/decades.
Becoming that guy shouldn't be easy. It should be hard as hell. It should be hell, too. There is no reason whatsoever to be nice to those guys, to practically hand them their drugs on a silver platter and feed the cancer they've become.
Of course, we shouldn't lock them up as much as we do. Most need help, not punishment. No way in hell should we streamline the process of getting hard drugs, though, crappy utilitarian arguments or not.
On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic.
Reign in your anger and think for half a second. He's saying that by buying pot illegally, there are damn good odds you're financing and supporting organizations that have collectively tortured, killed and raped thousands upon thousands of people. Whether pot is good or evil is completely irrelevant in his post.
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On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic.
I actualy agree with him. yes pot should be legal. Yes you should be able to buy it from a reputable business.
However the reality is that it is not legal. And illegal substances should be hard to get.
There is nothing hypocritical about this at all.
What a person finds desirable and what is legal are two very different things.
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And good bye to the internet. I mean, what he did is offline just as bad as online, but politicians will not fail to abuse this undertaking for their cause. ACTA #2, let's roll ..
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On October 03 2013 07:08 BBS wrote:
And good bye to the internet. I mean, what I did is offline just as bad as online,but politicians will not fail to abuse this undertaking for their cause. ACTA #2, let's roll ..
time to break out the BBS
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On October 03 2013 07:04 beg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:59 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use Pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic. Its not hypocritical at all, I would just ask people to wait for proper channels to be opened up for them to purchase their drugs from, regardless of what you want, it is always going to be wrong to giving money to dangerous criminal organizations. The problem comes from the substance being illegal, legalizing it would solve many problems but until then I want people to be punished for funding criminal gangs just for a cheap high. dude, you are talking fantasy. people WILL take drugs, period. in fact, if you legalize cannabis the amount of regular smokers won't even increase. how long do you want to make people wait? decades? centuries? i'm sorry, we don't live that long as human beings. yes, everyone realizes that legalization solves problems. but in the majority of countries it's not gonna happen in our lifetimes.
Yes I expect them to wait. The other option is allowing people to get their drugs from whoever, which can and very often is unsavory sources. I am not willing to accept that it is or ever will be okay for people to be giving money to criminals and as such people must be punished for funding crime.
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On October 03 2013 06:59 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use Pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic. Its not hypocritical at all, I would just ask people to wait for proper channels to be opened up for them to purchase their drugs from, regardless of what you want, it is always going to be wrong to giving money to dangerous criminal organizations. The problem comes from the substance being illegal, legalizing it would solve many problems but until then I want people to be punished for funding criminal gangs just for a cheap high.
That's moronic. If the moral issue is triggered by the fact that it is illegal, then the people who bear the moral burden would be the people who make it illegal and thus immoral.
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On October 03 2013 07:06 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. Might want to keep it civil. We aren't arguing against stuff like legalization and marijuana. The problem is when some idiot tries out heroine, gets addicted, fucks up his life, fucks up some other people's lives, then proceeds to be a mole on the ass of society for the next few years/decades. Becoming that guy shouldn't be easy. It should be hard as hell. It should be hell, too. There is no reason whatsoever to be nice to those guys, to practically hand them their drugs on a silver platter and feed the cancer they've become. Of course, we shouldn't lock them up as much as we do. Most need help, not punishment. No way in hell should we streamline the process of getting hard drugs, though, crappy utilitarian arguments or not.
not meant to not be civil. the trading of hard drugs gives me a very bitter taste too....
but....
is LSD a hard drug? is MDMA a hard drug? are shrooms are hard drug? what is a hard drug? who is to decide? it's nice that at least cannabis gets a more reasonable discussion, but the problem doesn't stop there.
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On October 03 2013 07:13 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 07:04 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 06:59 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use Pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic. Its not hypocritical at all, I would just ask people to wait for proper channels to be opened up for them to purchase their drugs from, regardless of what you want, it is always going to be wrong to giving money to dangerous criminal organizations. The problem comes from the substance being illegal, legalizing it would solve many problems but until then I want people to be punished for funding criminal gangs just for a cheap high. dude, you are talking fantasy. people WILL take drugs, period. in fact, if you legalize cannabis the amount of regular smokers won't even increase. how long do you want to make people wait? decades? centuries? i'm sorry, we don't live that long as human beings. yes, everyone realizes that legalization solves problems. but in the majority of countries it's not gonna happen in our lifetimes. Yes I expect them to wait. The other option is allowing people to get their drugs from whoever, which can and very often is unsavory sources. I am not willing to accept that it is or ever will be okay for people to be giving money to criminals and as such people must be punished for funding crime.
buying from whoever means that the guy with the best quality will win. i remember just 5 years ago a lot of(!) european countries would be selling cannabis contaminated with extremely fine sand/glass to make it heavier.
again, you "expect them to wait". dude. no. THEY DONT WAIT. period. it's fact. it's reality. it's like the governments saying "we expect you to not use drugs". that's literally what the german government says. "oh, all your cannabis is sickly contaminted with bullshit? well, dont smoke, BITCHES"
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On October 03 2013 07:14 Jormundr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 06:59 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Outside of the [possible] murder, this is stupid. We should be legalizing [not monopolizing or handing out liscensure] things like this. Safe, easy, cheap way to buy drugs? This is improving peoples lives and acting in concert with their desires. The Governments got no place telling people what they can or cant sell, or what they can or cant buy. On October 03 2013 06:48 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 06:42 beg wrote:On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. damn, such a statement can only come from several decades of prohibition. so close-minded. so wrong. i dont even know how to put it in words. SORRY BRO. YOU'RE WRONG. so if someone wants to smoke a joint, he should rather buy from a fucking street corner where people contaminate the cannabis with all kinds of shit? such a person should not be able to buy from a trustworthy source he can rely on? DSFJifgreugtfeugpoda ujg wrip hbmrt0 gi0´ hu´ wogrhujbü smhu9q 64hüogrt j qßó4tz8i+ hja´ 8z´ 4thjß´mhu´54z all that prohibition propaganda fucked you guys up. it's so sad to me. it hurts. i cant even express it. why do people have to be criminalized? the only way to express what i feel is smashing my keyboard like you saw. but i didnt smash it in rage, ok? i kept smashing the buttons because i feel so helpless over this propaganda bullshit. it HURTS. It may surprise you, but I support the legalization of Marijuana, I do not however support people putting money into the hands of dangerous criminals and illegal organizations, so until marijuana is legal and regulated I would like it to be made as hard as possible for people to be putting money into the hands of criminals. In other words, even though you believe its morally acceptable for people to use Pot, you want to make it impossible for them to use pot and punish them for attempting it, because they get it from the only source [literally by definition] that they possibly could get it from. Hypocritical, backasswards logic. Its not hypocritical at all, I would just ask people to wait for proper channels to be opened up for them to purchase their drugs from, regardless of what you want, it is always going to be wrong to giving money to dangerous criminal organizations. The problem comes from the substance being illegal, legalizing it would solve many problems but until then I want people to be punished for funding criminal gangs just for a cheap high. That's moronic. If the moral issue is triggered by the fact that it is illegal, then the people who bear the moral burden would be the people who make it illegal and thus immoral.
I agree that outlawing Marijuana is immoral, I also agree that funding criminal organizations is immoral. As such I would like to see Marijuana legalized and regulated. Until then though I cant make exception to the fact I believe funding crime is immoral, hence I want Marijuana to be legal and crime to still be illegal thus solving this moral dilemma.
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