|
|
|
On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past.
Slippery slope right there. Tolerating crimes because someone's doing it nicer than the other guy is a great way to end up with no real law enforcement.
At the end of the day, drug trafficking is illegal, and all cases need to be prosecuted. It's the price of outlawing something. The trade-off for driving something underground and making it rarer is making it more messy for everyone involved. Leaving the nice guys in business defeats the point of outlawing something. If we want a clean drug trade, we legalize it. Otherwise, we're just using wasteful half-measures.
|
On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past.
Murdering people, financing cartels with astronomical sums of money, i'm sure it's all outweight by someone's mild inconvenience.
|
On October 03 2013 05:21 Helios.Star wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Handling the situation with finesse probably went out the window when they heard the guy was ordering hits on people...
The "hit" seems more like it was a con, but I'm not going to defend DPR. SR was quite a mess as a website or an exchange, and he seems to have been pretty bad at running such a service. I still maintain that it was a move up from how people bought drugs 10 years ago, and even if the owner seemed quite incompetent that doesn't mean that the business conducted there wasn't more civilized (there was still plenty of shady shit going on, including scams, but less than you would expect from face-to-face drug dealing).
|
On October 03 2013 05:30 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Slippery slope right there. Tolerating crimes because someone's doing it nicer than their compatriots is a great way to end up with no real law enforcement. At the end of the day, drug trafficking is illegal, and all cases need to be prosecuted. It's the price of outlawing something. The trade-off for driving something underground and making it rarer is making it more messy for everyone involved. Leaving the nice guys in business defeats the point of outlawing something. If we want a clean drug trade, we legalize it. Otherwise, we're just using wasteful half-measures.
I'm not giving advice to the authorities, just my view on how this chances the landscape for people wishing to acquire illegal drugs. Personally I would be in favor of legalizing and regulating the lighter stuff at least (like weed), but in the absence of legalization I would prefer that people who buy that sort of stuff have a safer way to get it. I'm not saying FBI or whatever federal agencies they worked with shouldn't have done this, they need to uphold the law, even if I (or they) don't agree it is a great law.
On October 03 2013 05:32 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Murdering people, financing cartels with astronomical sums of money, i'm sure it's all outweight by someone's mild inconvenience.
I'm confused. Are you saying SR is financing cartels, whereas street dealers are not? Are you saying that online retailers on SR are murdering people, but street dealers are not? That seems backwards from how I would expect it to work.
|
On October 03 2013 05:36 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:21 Helios.Star wrote:On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Handling the situation with finesse probably went out the window when they heard the guy was ordering hits on people... The "hit" seems more like it was a con, but I'm not going to defend DPR. SR was quite a mess as a website or an exchange, and he seems to have been pretty bad at running such a service. I still maintain that it was a move up from how people bought drugs 10 years ago, and even if the owner seemed quite incompetent that doesn't mean that the business conducted there wasn't more civilized (there was still plenty of shady shit going on, including scams, but less than you would expect from face-to-face drug dealing).
I don't care about the fact that the drug user is less likely to be scammed (I would rather they be scammed more often anyway so they would be motivated to cease their illegal activity). What really matters is that they are putting money into very bad people's hands, I don't care if they are dealing with the gangs and cartels on the street or dealing with them through the anonymity of the internet. Whether they are funding crime face to face or through their computer screen, they are funding criminal behavior either way.
|
On October 03 2013 05:32 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Murdering people, financing cartels with astronomical sums of money, i'm sure it's all outweight by someone's mild inconvenience.
I would agree if it wasn't for arms trade being a bigger deal IMO and US wouldn't dare apply same rules to the arms trade
|
On October 03 2013 05:44 rasnj wrote:
I'm confused. Are you saying SR is financing cartels, whereas street dealers are not? Are you saying that online retailers on SR are murdering people, but street dealers are not? That seems backwards from how I would expect it to work.
Yes you are confused. I am not comparing them to street dealers. I am not creating an imaginary hierarchy of badness. I am saying SR is a bad place and should have been closed.
Your argument is "at least they're not hitler."(BOOM, Godwin's Law).
On October 03 2013 05:48 monkh wrote:
I would agree if it wasn't for arms trade being a bigger deal IMO and US wouldn't dare apply same rules to the arms trade
Again, this is not a competition. This is not a People's baddest evil deed of the year.
Lets address bad things one by one.
p.s. There outta be a Godwin's law alternative for the US.
|
On October 03 2013 05:52 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:44 rasnj wrote:
I'm confused. Are you saying SR is financing cartels, whereas street dealers are not? Are you saying that online retailers on SR are murdering people, but street dealers are not? That seems backwards from how I would expect it to work. Yes you are confused. I am not comparing them to street dealers. I am not creating an imaginary hierarchy of badness. I am saying SR is a bad place and should have been closed. Your argument is "at least they're not hitler."(BOOM, Godwin's Law).
Ok, since you insist. Let us construct a more apt analogy:
1) Hitler is immortal (street drug dealing is not going away).
2) SR pokes Jews on the shoulder (quite a mean thing to do, but preferable to gassing them).
3) When SR pokes a Jew, Hitler will gas one less Jew (people who buy from SR, will not go to street dealers).
Now if you kill SR, then Jews are not getting poked in the shoulder anymore which is nice in an absolute sense, but if you consider that they will be gassed instead you probably shouldn't have killed SR until you found a way to do something about immortal Hitler.
|
United States23455 Posts
On October 03 2013 03:05 BlueLanterna wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 03:04 MrRicewife wrote:
It's very strange but I can't find a picture of this guy anywhere.
Does anyone have a photo of his face? Or a profile of him? I know he graduated from Texas and he is 29. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TPshRr6.jpg)
Oh Linkedin...
|
On October 03 2013 05:59 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:52 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 05:44 rasnj wrote:
I'm confused. Are you saying SR is financing cartels, whereas street dealers are not? Are you saying that online retailers on SR are murdering people, but street dealers are not? That seems backwards from how I would expect it to work. Yes you are confused. I am not comparing them to street dealers. I am not creating an imaginary hierarchy of badness. I am saying SR is a bad place and should have been closed. Your argument is "at least they're not hitler."(BOOM, Godwin's Law). Ok, since you insist. Let us construct a more apt analogy: 1) Hitler is immortal (street drug dealing is not going away). 2) SR pokes Jews on the shoulder (quite a mean thing to do, but preferable to gassing them). 3) When SR pokes a Jew, Hitler will gas one less Jew (people who buy from SR, will not go to street dealers). Now if you kill SR, then Jews are not getting poked in the shoulder anymore which is nice in an absolute sense, but if you consider that they will be gassed instead you probably shouldn't have killed SR until you found a way to do something about immortal Hitler.
Wow. We're going full circle here.
|
On October 03 2013 05:59 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:52 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 05:44 rasnj wrote:
I'm confused. Are you saying SR is financing cartels, whereas street dealers are not? Are you saying that online retailers on SR are murdering people, but street dealers are not? That seems backwards from how I would expect it to work. Yes you are confused. I am not comparing them to street dealers. I am not creating an imaginary hierarchy of badness. I am saying SR is a bad place and should have been closed. Your argument is "at least they're not hitler."(BOOM, Godwin's Law). Ok, since you insist. Let us construct a more apt analogy: 1) Hitler is immortal (street drug dealing is not going away). 2) SR pokes Jews on the shoulder (quite a mean thing to do, but preferable to gassing them). 3) When SR pokes a Jew, Hitler will gas one less Jew (people who buy from SR, will not go to street dealers). Now if you kill SR, then Jews are not getting poked in the shoulder anymore which is nice in an absolute sense, but if you consider that they will be gassed instead you probably shouldn't have killed SR until you found a way to do something about immortal Hitler.
I fail to see how it's a bad thing that those conducting illegal activities are inconvenienced. Can you explain why it's a positive for society for there to be "easy access" hitmen and heroin? Because personally, I'm not really getting it.
|
I respect this guy for what he attempted to accomplish, and for his ideology. Black markets are one of the best solutions to an overbearing state. Shame he got taken down by some package with ID's in it. But we all know by now the internet is a hydra, you cut off one head and two more replace it.
|
On October 03 2013 06:05 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:59 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 05:52 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 05:44 rasnj wrote:
I'm confused. Are you saying SR is financing cartels, whereas street dealers are not? Are you saying that online retailers on SR are murdering people, but street dealers are not? That seems backwards from how I would expect it to work. Yes you are confused. I am not comparing them to street dealers. I am not creating an imaginary hierarchy of badness. I am saying SR is a bad place and should have been closed. Your argument is "at least they're not hitler."(BOOM, Godwin's Law). Ok, since you insist. Let us construct a more apt analogy: 1) Hitler is immortal (street drug dealing is not going away). 2) SR pokes Jews on the shoulder (quite a mean thing to do, but preferable to gassing them). 3) When SR pokes a Jew, Hitler will gas one less Jew (people who buy from SR, will not go to street dealers). Now if you kill SR, then Jews are not getting poked in the shoulder anymore which is nice in an absolute sense, but if you consider that they will be gassed instead you probably shouldn't have killed SR until you found a way to do something about immortal Hitler. I fail to see how it's a bad thing that those conducting illegal activities are inconvenienced. Can you explain why it's a positive for society for there to be "easy access" hitmen and heroin? Because personally, I'm not really getting it.
The hitman thing is a myth or front for con-men. Heroin addicts are getting their heroin either way. I don't believe people should do heroin, but if they do I don't think they deserve to be more poisoned than what the heroin itself does. Of course clinics that helps people get off the Heroin would be way better.
However it is not for them that I feel sad. It is for the college student who ruins his career buying from an undercover cop. It is for the person attending a music festival and buying some "ecstasy" which they end up OD'ing on due to all kinds of adulterants.
In an absolute sense SR is not good. But compared to the alternatives I believe it has a net positive effect on society.
EDIT: My point was never convenience. My point was mainly safety. With proper feedback and people actually testing the stuff they get, the retailers have a much larger incentive to not mix their drugs with all kinds of adulterants, and it is easier to identify shady dealers. It is still not perfectly safe, and in many cases whatever you are buying has a risk factor even in its purest form, but why not minimize risk? I understand drug users (from first time weed smokers to heroin addicts) are doing something illegal, but I still don't think that means we shouldn't care about their well-being, even if we disapprove of what they are doing.
|
On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services.
your blind passionate belief in the law is terrifying to any rational person
|
On October 03 2013 05:44 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:36 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 05:21 Helios.Star wrote:On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Handling the situation with finesse probably went out the window when they heard the guy was ordering hits on people... The "hit" seems more like it was a con, but I'm not going to defend DPR. SR was quite a mess as a website or an exchange, and he seems to have been pretty bad at running such a service. I still maintain that it was a move up from how people bought drugs 10 years ago, and even if the owner seemed quite incompetent that doesn't mean that the business conducted there wasn't more civilized (there was still plenty of shady shit going on, including scams, but less than you would expect from face-to-face drug dealing). I don't care about the fact that the drug user is less likely to be scammed (I would rather they be scammed more often anyway so they would be motivated to cease their illegal activity). What really matters is that they are putting money into very bad people's hands, I don't care if they are dealing with the gangs and cartels on the street or dealing with them through the anonymity of the internet. Whether they are funding crime face to face or through their computer screen, they are funding criminal behavior either way.
Is it just me or would we be better off if people who thought so simplistically ceased to exist.
|
On October 03 2013 06:29 AdamBanks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:44 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 05:36 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 05:21 Helios.Star wrote:On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Handling the situation with finesse probably went out the window when they heard the guy was ordering hits on people... The "hit" seems more like it was a con, but I'm not going to defend DPR. SR was quite a mess as a website or an exchange, and he seems to have been pretty bad at running such a service. I still maintain that it was a move up from how people bought drugs 10 years ago, and even if the owner seemed quite incompetent that doesn't mean that the business conducted there wasn't more civilized (there was still plenty of shady shit going on, including scams, but less than you would expect from face-to-face drug dealing). I don't care about the fact that the drug user is less likely to be scammed (I would rather they be scammed more often anyway so they would be motivated to cease their illegal activity). What really matters is that they are putting money into very bad people's hands, I don't care if they are dealing with the gangs and cartels on the street or dealing with them through the anonymity of the internet. Whether they are funding crime face to face or through their computer screen, they are funding criminal behavior either way. Is it just me or would we be better off if people who thought so simplistically ceased to exist.
No it's not you
|
On October 03 2013 06:29 opsayo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:03 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. I would rather they have the fear of ``going into a bad part of town`` so that they think twice before trying to buy their illegal substances and services. your blind passionate belief in the law is terrifying to any rational person
If my passion for keeping money out the the hands of hoodlums, gangs, cartels and other undesirables who do nothing but cause harm to society and individuals is "terrifying" so be it.
|
On October 03 2013 06:29 AdamBanks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:44 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On October 03 2013 05:36 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 05:21 Helios.Star wrote:On October 03 2013 05:04 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:59 1Dhalism wrote:On October 03 2013 04:52 rasnj wrote:On October 03 2013 04:45 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:
Good thing they caught him and shut down the site, from the sounds of it the site was nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity. You need to consider the alternative though. If people can't go on SR, then they will try to find a drug dealer locally which can be quite hard. Whoever you come across is very unlikely to be trustworthy, and you have almost no idea what kind of stuff is mixed into what you are buying. If you must trade illegal drugs, then an exchange with a reliable feedback system and secure communications is by far preferable. SR was not perfect (not by a long shot), but it was by far better than driving into a "bad" part of town and looking for people on the street corners. Also while people did buy very hard drugs on SR, I don't know if people who scored the occasional ritalin or adderall for studying, or a small amount of weed for relaxing with some friends are really that despicable. You engage in an illegal activity, you accept the risks. Dont bitch about them. The fuck. I am not bitching. I'm not in trouble, and didn't take any risks. I'm just saying that I do not believe it is good that SR was shut down, and I don't agree that it is "nothing but a cesspool of criminal activity." It was criminal activity, but handled in a far more civilized manner than drug dealing has been in the past. Handling the situation with finesse probably went out the window when they heard the guy was ordering hits on people... The "hit" seems more like it was a con, but I'm not going to defend DPR. SR was quite a mess as a website or an exchange, and he seems to have been pretty bad at running such a service. I still maintain that it was a move up from how people bought drugs 10 years ago, and even if the owner seemed quite incompetent that doesn't mean that the business conducted there wasn't more civilized (there was still plenty of shady shit going on, including scams, but less than you would expect from face-to-face drug dealing). I don't care about the fact that the drug user is less likely to be scammed (I would rather they be scammed more often anyway so they would be motivated to cease their illegal activity). What really matters is that they are putting money into very bad people's hands, I don't care if they are dealing with the gangs and cartels on the street or dealing with them through the anonymity of the internet. Whether they are funding crime face to face or through their computer screen, they are funding criminal behavior either way. Is it just me or would we be better off if people who thought so simplistically ceased to exist.
i find this post amusing given the simplistic nature in which you have addressed this issue.
|
Reading that guy's linkedin description makes him seem like a typical Bioshock villain.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
