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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 20 2014 12:37 GMT
#1221
Wait what, you had a 2.8k blitz rating there once? That's impressive as fuck. Or am I reading it wrong?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 20 2014 12:49 GMT
#1222
On November 20 2014 21:37 Orome wrote:
Wait what, you had a 2.8k blitz rating there once? That's impressive as fuck. Or am I reading it wrong?

Holy fuck, yeah, that's pretty insane.

The problems around 2100 are often crazy enough to slip up on them, I don't even know how people get through all sub-variations and quirks while dealing with stuff even harder than that.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 20 2014 12:55 GMT
#1223
On November 20 2014 21:37 Orome wrote:
Wait what, you had a 2.8k blitz rating there once? That's impressive as fuck. Or am I reading it wrong?


It was a quirk in the system that the site owner eventually fixed - essentially in the past you got full credit for solving repeat problems, and you don't anymore.

So then if your RD gets really high and you run across several really difficult problems you've done before - hey presto, you gain literally hundreds of points within a few problems

My current blitz rating is probably about right, and my standard rating was about 2150 when I was taking it seriously.

So sadly I cannot own up to being totes amazeballs.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 20 2014 13:01 GMT
#1224
Meanwhile, the fact that Anand's prep seems to stretch much further than Carlsen's doesn't bode well for a decisive result this game
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 20 2014 13:02 GMT
#1225
oh it's a draw

lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
November 20 2014 13:03 GMT
#1226
Draw by repetition in 20 moves wtf.
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Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
November 20 2014 13:05 GMT
#1227
Norwegian media saying Carlsen a bit sick, might be reason for his willingness to draw
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 20 2014 14:08 GMT
#1228
Man, I got online a little late today because of birthday related things and it was already over.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2084 Posts
November 20 2014 14:21 GMT
#1229
On November 20 2014 22:05 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Norwegian media saying Carlsen a bit sick, might be reason for his willingness to draw

Yeah, could be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some preparation focuses and all that. Preparing a light drawish game for white probably allows you to shift some attention to other remaining games.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 20 2014 14:30 GMT
#1230
At least I wont feel the urge to check for updates every few minutes for the next hours.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 20 2014 14:37 GMT
#1231
On November 20 2014 23:21 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:05 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Norwegian media saying Carlsen a bit sick, might be reason for his willingness to draw

Yeah, could be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some preparation focuses and all that. Preparing a light drawish game for white probably allows you to shift some attention to other remaining games.


And if colors were reversed we would read, how uninspired and hopeless Anand was.

Carlsen said in the PC, that he was outprepped here(a6 onwards), surprised and didn't want to continue in a position, in which he was scared Vishy may had prepared something, that actually gave Black the advantage here.

And obviously such things can happen to Vishy as well as Anand. But fanboy response will differ greatly, depending on which case it is.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
November 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#1232
On November 20 2014 23:37 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 23:21 Bacillus wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Norwegian media saying Carlsen a bit sick, might be reason for his willingness to draw

Yeah, could be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some preparation focuses and all that. Preparing a light drawish game for white probably allows you to shift some attention to other remaining games.


And if colors were reversed we would read, how uninspired and hopeless Anand was.

Carlsen said in the PC, that he was outprepped here(a6 onwards), surprised and didn't want to continue in a position, in which he was scared Vishy may had prepared something, that actually gave Black the advantage here.

And obviously such things can happen to Vishy as well as Anand. But fanboy response will differ greatly, depending on which case it is.


To be fair Carlsen leading the match makes a huge difference here. A win would change his chance of winning the match from 80% to 95%, while a loss would decrease it to around 50%.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 20 2014 14:59 GMT
#1233
On November 20 2014 23:37 mahrgell wrote:
And obviously such things can happen to Vishy as well as Anand. But fanboy response will differ greatly, depending on which case it is.

Chuckle :p
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 20 2014 15:24 GMT
#1234
On November 20 2014 23:37 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 23:21 Bacillus wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Norwegian media saying Carlsen a bit sick, might be reason for his willingness to draw

Yeah, could be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some preparation focuses and all that. Preparing a light drawish game for white probably allows you to shift some attention to other remaining games.


And if colors were reversed we would read, how uninspired and hopeless Anand was.


When you're down in a match you should typically be trying harder to win than the person currently winning. That's how it goes. Especially since Carlsen beat Anand in Chennai I think that there's more needed from Vishy if he wants to reclaim the top spot. At least that's my opinion.
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 16:21:37
November 20 2014 16:20 GMT
#1235
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 16:35:35
November 20 2014 16:33 GMT
#1236
I think they should extent the tournament rules to "playing the Berlin is not allowed". It is so terribly boring : (

Also I think Anand couldn't really afford to draw without a fight today. Sure with white he's going to have a better chance to push for a win but I do think with only four games left including today he should have just taken more risks.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2084 Posts
November 20 2014 16:49 GMT
#1237
On November 21 2014 01:33 Nyxisto wrote:
I think they should extent the tournament rules to "playing the Berlin is not allowed". It is so terribly boring : (

Also I think Anand couldn't really afford to draw without a fight today. Sure with white he's going to have a better chance to push for a win but I do think with only four games left including today he should have just taken more risks.

Modern top level chess is really, really drawish if white wants it to be. I think it's too big of a risk to go chasing a win on black here while you've still got 2 perfectly fine white games left and all you need is one win to make it even and stabilize.

If Anand doesn't win the next game on white, we can probably start talking about the big risk plays. Today, a draw was fine for both even if it's a little dull outcome for the viewers.

I'm not too experienced with top level chess though, any idea what kind of options black has for do-or-die games?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 20 2014 17:09 GMT
#1238
Well I don't think he has to go completely crazy but something different than an automatic draw would probably have been nice. Another Sicilian maybe. With his performance last year in mind I'm afraid that Magnus is going to gobble up yet another point and that Anand will go down without much resistance again.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
November 20 2014 17:59 GMT
#1239
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18725 Posts
November 20 2014 18:36 GMT
#1240
On November 20 2014 23:37 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 23:21 Bacillus wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Norwegian media saying Carlsen a bit sick, might be reason for his willingness to draw

Yeah, could be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some preparation focuses and all that. Preparing a light drawish game for white probably allows you to shift some attention to other remaining games.


And if colors were reversed we would read, how uninspired and hopeless Anand was.

Carlsen said in the PC, that he was outprepped here(a6 onwards), surprised and didn't want to continue in a position, in which he was scared Vishy may had prepared something, that actually gave Black the advantage here.

And obviously such things can happen to Vishy as well as Anand. But fanboy response will differ greatly, depending on which case it is.


I understand Carlsen's POV for fast draw now.

But why the hell would Vishy agree to a quick draw?
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