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Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
May 22 2013 21:52 GMT
#301
Uuuuugh.... My Lamy squirmed out of my hands as I was beginning to write and fell nib-first on tile... Eeekk... The nib was bent back at a substantial angle and one of the nibs was pushed up and over the other. After removing the nib however, I was able to get out my soft rawhide mallet and straighten it out. Put some ink in it, and it writes! Not nearly as smoothly and evenly as before, but it writes. The sweet spot is much much smaller and requires more angle attention, but it should be ok.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 22:18:35
May 22 2013 22:18 GMT
#302
On May 23 2013 06:52 Kronen wrote:
Uuuuugh.... My Lamy squirmed out of my hands as I was beginning to write and fell nib-first on tile... Eeekk... The nib was bent back at a substantial angle and one of the nibs was pushed up and over the other. After removing the nib however, I was able to get out my soft rawhide mallet and straighten it out. Put some ink in it, and it writes! Not nearly as smoothly and evenly as before, but it writes. The sweet spot is much much smaller and requires more angle attention, but it should be ok.

You should just go ahead and buy a new nib, Lamy's are like $6 or something. No point in having a quality pen that "should be ok". It stops being a quality pen when it's demoted to "should be ok"
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
May 22 2013 22:31 GMT
#303
On May 23 2013 07:18 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 06:52 Kronen wrote:
Uuuuugh.... My Lamy squirmed out of my hands as I was beginning to write and fell nib-first on tile... Eeekk... The nib was bent back at a substantial angle and one of the nibs was pushed up and over the other. After removing the nib however, I was able to get out my soft rawhide mallet and straighten it out. Put some ink in it, and it writes! Not nearly as smoothly and evenly as before, but it writes. The sweet spot is much much smaller and requires more angle attention, but it should be ok.

You should just go ahead and buy a new nib, Lamy's are like $6 or something. No point in having a quality pen that "should be ok". It stops being a quality pen when it's demoted to "should be ok"


At 6 I'll pick it up, but 16.50 minimum right now gives me a bit of pause. I just purchased a Konrad and my first installation of ink... so my disposable entertainment income has been requisitioned. I'll get what I can out of this nib and when a sale pops up I'll jump at it.

Ironically, the cheapest purchasing option for the nib is to order it from the UK off Amazon and wait 18-32 business days for it to arrive.
OriginalBeast
Profile Joined September 2010
United States709 Posts
May 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#304
Just ordered an edison beaumont in black onyx flake with 1.1mm italic nib, noodler's ahab, pilot iroshizuku kon-peki, diamine havasu turquoise. I already have a lamy safari, and namiki falcon. Good to see that TL has the same hobbies as I do, pens and starcraft.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 22 2013 22:56 GMT
#305
On May 23 2013 07:31 Kronen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 07:18 Djzapz wrote:
On May 23 2013 06:52 Kronen wrote:
Uuuuugh.... My Lamy squirmed out of my hands as I was beginning to write and fell nib-first on tile... Eeekk... The nib was bent back at a substantial angle and one of the nibs was pushed up and over the other. After removing the nib however, I was able to get out my soft rawhide mallet and straighten it out. Put some ink in it, and it writes! Not nearly as smoothly and evenly as before, but it writes. The sweet spot is much much smaller and requires more angle attention, but it should be ok.

You should just go ahead and buy a new nib, Lamy's are like $6 or something. No point in having a quality pen that "should be ok". It stops being a quality pen when it's demoted to "should be ok"


At 6 I'll pick it up, but 16.50 minimum right now gives me a bit of pause. I just purchased a Konrad and my first installation of ink... so my disposable entertainment income has been requisitioned. I'll get what I can out of this nib and when a sale pops up I'll jump at it.

Ironically, the cheapest purchasing option for the nib is to order it from the UK off Amazon and wait 18-32 business days for it to arrive.

Hmmm maybe I'm mistaken about $6 then...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 23:05:09
May 22 2013 23:03 GMT
#306
Y'know, I write in mini-notepads a lot. Maybe I should get one of these. A cheaper, non-scratchy one would be nice, but I'd like a metal nib. Any recommendations? I think $30 would be on the high end. $20 or less would be perfect.

Edit: sorry, came back and didn't re-read OP for recommendations. I'll look at Lamy and Ohto to start.
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Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 23:42:02
May 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#307
On May 23 2013 08:03 hp.Shell wrote:
Y'know, I write in mini-notepads a lot. Maybe I should get one of these. A cheaper, non-scratchy one would be nice, but I'd like a metal nib. Any recommendations? I think $30 would be on the high end. $20 or less would be perfect.

Edit: sorry, came back and didn't re-read OP for recommendations. I'll look at Lamy and Ohto to start.


Lamy Vista for 22,06 all inclusive with prime (except for the converter ) right now on amazon! With a deal like that I was considering just buying another pen for 22 rather than a little nib for 16...

Edit: link and an egregious spelling error
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 23 2013 03:56 GMT
#308
Lamy nibs are $10.75 on Jetpens, free US shipping on $25+
http://www.jetpens.com/Lamy-Fountain-Pen-Nib-Black-Finish-Fine/pd/3628


On May 23 2013 08:03 hp.Shell wrote:
Y'know, I write in mini-notepads a lot. Maybe I should get one of these. A cheaper, non-scratchy one would be nice, but I'd like a metal nib. Any recommendations? I think $30 would be on the high end. $20 or less would be perfect.

Edit: sorry, came back and didn't re-read OP for recommendations. I'll look at Lamy and Ohto to start.


All nibs are metal. Most are stainless steel with some kind of tipping material for the very tip, typically rhodium.

Why do you use mini-notepads a lot? Keep in mind that cheap paper doesn't do so well with a lot of fountain pens/inks. They bleed and feather a lot more with fountain pens than they do with ballpoints. Simply due to fountain pen ink being water based, and ballpoints having a very thick pasty ink.

Getting a fountain pen could turn into getting some better paper. Which if you're interested in a fountain pen you should get decent paper anyway just to have a better experience
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
May 23 2013 06:08 GMT
#309
Hm, I never even considered the pen leading to better quality paper. Good observation. Still haven't decided which pen to start off with.

I use mini-notepads because the small page width (3" maybe?) tends to be perfect for writing quick one-line brain-images. I find myself writing lists of short items a lot. Wider paper means more white space. E.g., "go to hardware store," "do laundry," "learn kanji," "look for hand puppets."
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 23 2013 13:21 GMT
#310
FYI I have 3 fountain pens and they've all performed just fine on cheap paper so far.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 23 2013 13:56 GMT
#311
Some of mine are terrible on cheap paper. The ink that came with my Pilot Petit1 is probably the worst. Feathers like mad. The rest only feather a bit and have significant ghosting, all enough to make me want to use better paper.

Noodler's X-feather is probably a good ink to use on cheap paper, as it's designed to have no feathering.
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
eTcetRa
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 15:19:00
May 23 2013 15:18 GMT
#312
I would try this but as I use block writing (all captials) for the purpose of drafting and have never broken the habit I think it would be a waste to try one of these? Or am I mistaken and these would work just fine for block as well?

Also, these look incredible, I'd be tempted to just collect them because they look professional.
Retired Mapmaker™
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 23 2013 15:22 GMT
#313
On May 23 2013 22:56 Marimokkori wrote:
Some of mine are terrible on cheap paper. The ink that came with my Pilot Petit1 is probably the worst. Feathers like mad. The rest only feather a bit and have significant ghosting, all enough to make me want to use better paper.

Noodler's X-feather is probably a good ink to use on cheap paper, as it's designed to have no feathering.

This is a bit random but speaking of feathering... Put the tip of a wet fountain pen with wet ink on paper towel and look at it go! It's beautiful.

Anywho I use Parker Quink and lamy T52 with medium/fine nibs and I don't get any feathering on a ridiculously cheap notepad. Maybe my cheap paper is not that cheap, but it's literally the least expensive thing I could find.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Jophess
Profile Joined August 2010
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 16:10:58
May 23 2013 16:08 GMT
#314
I took some pictures to show the difference that paper can make. Some inks perform better on cheap paper than others.
The pen is a TWSBI 580 (fine nib) with Noodler's Blue-Black. Sadly, no good paper to compare with.

Link because the pictures are huge: http://imgur.com/a/6ZuME
Note that it's not just feathering differences. The ink looks different shades of blue, and the line is much thicker on some with equal pressure.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 24 2013 05:09 GMT
#315
On May 24 2013 00:18 eTcetRa wrote:
I would try this but as I use block writing (all captials) for the purpose of drafting and have never broken the habit I think it would be a waste to try one of these? Or am I mistaken and these would work just fine for block as well?

Also, these look incredible, I'd be tempted to just collect them because they look professional.

I write in all caps, as do many other fountain pen users. Fountain pens are just a different tool for the same job. Some people might think an italic nib looks better with cursive than it does with all caps, some might not. Point being all caps writing is no reason to skip trying out a nice pen.

I took a bunch of photos to illustrate my point on feathering. Cheap paper vs Rhodia Dot pad.

On the cheapo crap, my Pilot Petit1 Fine looks as thick as the Monterverde Medium nib. A Japanese fine ( Asian nibs are finer than western nibs) looking comparable to an American medium? Not good. I didn't take photos of the back, but everything has ghosting. Bleedthrough occurs with flex and the pilot ink in the petit1.

On the Dot pad you can actually see the difference in line width, and even with max flex on the konrad, there is no visible feathering. Ghosting is visible when light is allowed to pass through the paper, and no bleedthrough whatsoever.


Sorry for the shit camera, but you can still see what I'm talking about.

http://imgur.com/a/YWAXT
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 08:23:29
May 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#316
Is there a large difference between ink qualities? I had a blue black from Parker and wasn't overly happy with how it dried, got some lamy black ink and not only does it look better dry but it writes a fair bit smoother as well.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 25 2013 15:09 GMT
#317
On May 25 2013 16:58 Scaramanga wrote:
Is there a large difference between ink qualities? I had a blue black from Parker and wasn't overly happy with how it dried, got some lamy black ink and not only does it look better dry but it writes a fair bit smoother as well.

I don't know how "large" it gets in terms of quality but I know there's a difference. I have some Waterman Serenity blue which just didn't flow with one of my pens, and now the Lamy T52 flows great. And my parker quink works just fine in another pen.

There's also something about saturation and whatnot, sometimes there's too much or too little. And some types of inks use solids when most use dye. Iron gall for instance is said to make your ink more "permanent" but it can damage your pen if you aren't careful.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#318
LOl I just noticed if you add an "i" to the title it is Fountain Penis.

User was temp banned for this post.
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
May 25 2013 15:42 GMT
#319
On May 26 2013 00:09 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:58 Scaramanga wrote:
Is there a large difference between ink qualities? I had a blue black from Parker and wasn't overly happy with how it dried, got some lamy black ink and not only does it look better dry but it writes a fair bit smoother as well.

I don't know how "large" it gets in terms of quality but I know there's a difference. I have some Waterman Serenity blue which just didn't flow with one of my pens, and now the Lamy T52 flows great. And my parker quink works just fine in another pen.

There's also something about saturation and whatnot, sometimes there's too much or too little. And some types of inks use solids when most use dye. Iron gall for instance is said to make your ink more "permanent" but it can damage your pen if you aren't careful.

A lot of times it can depend on what you want from the ink. Noodler's X-feather doesn't have any shading, while Noodler's Apache Sunset is well known for it's very large amounts of shading. They are both good inks, but they were designed for different things.
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
May 25 2013 16:07 GMT
#320
On May 26 2013 00:23 Fenrax wrote:
LOl I just noticed if you add an "i" to the title it is Fountain Penis.

Quality post right here, lol.
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