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HunterX11
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April 19 2013 06:17 GMT
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On April 19 2013 07:32 oneofthem wrote:
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On April 16 2013 10:16 HunterX11 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:56 oneofthem wrote:
the established EEZ concept is only established because there's an agreement about it. If a country rejects it and instead argue on colonial etc grounds that a piece of land is theirs, then that's still a conflict in the same vein. china's claim on those islands for instance


China pretty much argues that Pluto is part of its nautical territory so it's not the best example for meaningful non-hyperbolic claims though. The point is that while the Falklands are closer to Argentina than anywhere else, they're not really "close" in an absolute sense; at least, not close enough for anyone from Argentina to have found them first.

that their claim is aggressive is kind of part of the point. with nationalistic claims that may not arise from any genuine grievances, what's on the other side to oppose those silly but strongly made claims? a piece of colonial contract.

imagine if you had more of a framework in place instead of this piece of colonial paper, it'll go further in limiting senseless nationalistic claims by undercutting their narrative of restoring justice to imperialism. makes for more sensible discussion than a scream match, which is what's going on now.


The situation with China is the opposite though. Despite its might, China really doesn't own all the waters in Southeast Asia, but it is concerning that they make such bold claims, since eventually they really make try to make good on them. The Falklands already had a hot war, and Argentina lost, and it's inconceivable they would start another war. The official UK stance is that there's no dispute at all and nothing to talk about. Though the UK occasionally pulls stunts like the referendum, there's not really a "screaming match" at all: it's more like the UK is a big brother and Argentina is the little sister flailing its arms screaming "I'm gonna get you" but the UK is just holding her back by her forehead and there's nothing she can do;.
Try using both Irradiate and Defensive Matrix on an Overlord. It looks pretty neat.
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