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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
March 18 2013 18:03 GMT
#821
NK won't really do anything. Kim Jong Un is engaging in provocations to shore up popular support within the NK elites and the army. They realize that without continued support from china they would be in a pretty bad position up against the combined modern army of the US and the ROK. They also realize that if they ever were to attack in earnest china would withdraw their support pretty fast. Its the same old situation.
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 20:21:33
March 18 2013 20:20 GMT
#822

TOKYO: Japan has seized aluminium alloy rods which can be used to make nuclear centrifuges from a Singapore-flagged ship which was carrying cargo from North Korea, a government spokesman said Monday.

The five rods were discovered on the ship during its call at Tokyo port last August and were confirmed to be aluminium alloy through tests conducted over the past six months, said Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga.

"The aluminium alloy is extremely strong and can be used in centrifuges, that are products related to nuclear development," Suga told a regular news briefing.

The rods had been stored at a private warehouse and the Japanese government ordered the firm Monday to hand them over.

It was the first such handover under a special law passed in 2010 to enable Tokyo to inspect North Korea-related ships suspected of carrying materials that could be used in nuclear and missile programmes.

According to media reports, the ship was on its way to Myanmar when it arrived in Tokyo via the Chinese port of Dalian.

The spokesman confirmed the ship arrived via Dalian but said only that the cargo was bound for a "third country".

The North has conducted three nuclear weapons tests, in 2006, 2009 and last month, and disclosed in 2010 that it is developing a programme to enrich uranium using centrifuges.

Such a programme would give it a second way to produce material for atomic weapons, in addition to its longstanding plutonium programme.

United Nations sanctions resolutions require member states to inspect cargo suspected to be linked to the North's nuclear development.

Myanmar was suspected of pursuing military and nuclear cooperation with North Korea during long years of junta rule which ended in 2011 in the Southeast Asian state.

But the White House said last November the nation had taken "positive steps" to reduce its military relationship with the North.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/japan-seizes-nuclear-related-materials-from-north-korea-cargo/articleshow/19041719.cms?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 20 2013 09:00 GMT
#823
(4th LD) Several broadcasters, banks suffer suspected cyber attacks

SEOUL, March 20 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's government said a malicious code from unknown hackers caused massive computer network failures at several major TV stations and banks Wednesday, but nothing else has been determined yet, including whether North Korea was involved in the suspected cyber attacks.

Three broadcasters -- KBS, MBC and YTN, three banks -- Shinhan, Nonghyup and Jeju, and two insurance firms reported to the National Police Agency (NPA) that their computer networks were entirely halted around 2 p.m. for unknown reasons, police said. Woori Bank, a leading lender in Seoul, also came under an apparent hacking attack at the same time but managed to defend its computer networks through an internal system.


Yonhap

Several major S. Korean computer networks freeze; some coming back online

Computers networks at two major South Korean banks and three top TV broadcasters went into shutdown mode en masse Wednesday, paralyzing bank machines across the country and prompting speculation of a cyberattack by North Korea.

Screens went blank promptly at 2 p.m. local time, with skulls popping up on the screens of some computers -- a strong indication that hackers planted a malicious code in South Korean systems, the state-run Korea Information Security Agency said. Some computers started to get back online more than 2-1/2 hours later.

Police and South Korean officials investigating the shutdown said the cause was not immediately clear. But speculation centered on North Korea, with experts saying a cyberattack orchestrated by Pyongyang was likely to blame.

The shutdown comes amid rising rhetoric and threats of attack from Pyongyang in response to U.N. punishment for its December rocket launch and February nuclear test. Washington also expanded sanctions against North Korea this month in a bid to cripple the regime's ability to develop its nuclear program.

North Korea has threatened revenge for the sanctions and for ongoing routine U.S.-South Korean military drills it considers invasion preparation.

LG Uplus Corp., South Korea's third-largest mobile operator, which also operates landline services, said the company's networks are operating normally and it did not see any signs of a cyberattack, company spokesman Lee Jung-hwan said.

The companies whose networks shut down Wednesday afternoon all use LG Uplus, but also use other services from SK Telecom Co. and KT Corp, he said.

But the Reuters news agency reports that, "The network provided by LG UPlus Corp showed a

page that said it had been hacked by a group calling itself the "Whois Team", an unknown group. It featured three skulls and a warning that this was the beginning of 'Our Movement"'.

Accusations of cyberattacks on the Korean Peninsula are not new. Seoul believes Pyongyang was behind at least two cyberattacks on local companies in 2011 and 2012.

The latest network paralysis took place just days after North Korea accused South Korea and the U.S. of staging a cyberattack that shut down its websites for two days last week. The Thai-based Internet service provider confirmed the outage, but did not say what caused the shutdown in North Korea.

"It's got to be a hacking attack," Lim Jong-in, dean of Korea University's Graduate School of Information Security, said of Wednesday's events. "Such simultaneous shutdowns cannot be caused by technical glitches."

Shinhan Bank, a lender of South Korea's fourth-largest banking group, reported a system shutdown, including online banking and automated teller machines. The company couldn't conduct any customer activities at bank windows, including retail and corporate banking.

At one Starbucks in downtown Seoul, customers were asked to pay for their coffee in cash, and lines were forming outside disabled bank machines. Seoul is a largely cashless society, with many people using debit and credit cards.

Broadcasters KBS and MBC said their computers went down at 2 p.m., but officials said the shutdown did not affect daily TV broadcasts.

YTN cable news channel also said the company's internal computer network was completely paralyzed. Local TV showed workers staring at blank computer screens.

The South Korean military raised its cyberattack readiness level Wednesday following the shutdown, the Defense Ministry said. Defense officials reported no signs of cyberattacks on its ministry's computer network and had no immediate details about the broader shutdown.

The investigation will take months, Lim said.

"Hackers attack media companies usually because of a political desire to cause confusion in society," he said. "Political attacks on South Korea come from North Koreans."

Massive shutdowns of the networks of major companies take at least one to six months of planning and coordination, said Kwon Seok-chul, chief executive officer of Seoul-based cyber security firm Cuvepia Inc.


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Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
March 20 2013 09:18 GMT
#824
I'm actually surprised that a country like North korea, whose people should have very very limited access to computers, and an even more restricted access to internet can stage cyberattacks. Shouldn't the "pool" of people who could potentially do these tasks be very small ?
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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
March 20 2013 09:23 GMT
#825
On March 20 2013 18:18 Marti wrote:
I'm actually surprised that a country like North korea, whose people should have very very limited access to computers, and an even more restricted access to internet can stage cyberattacks. Shouldn't the "pool" of people who could potentially do these tasks be very small ?

Actually, you can train anyone to be a hacker. You can literally find hundreds of hacking guide on the internet (granted mostly English or European speaking communities provide these infos), it just takes time and a lot of dedication. Now after that you get some smart individuals (contrary to the popular belief North Korea is very well educated), bam, hackers.
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heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
March 20 2013 15:33 GMT
#826
On March 20 2013 18:18 Marti wrote:
I'm actually surprised that a country like North korea, whose people should have very very limited access to computers, and an even more restricted access to internet can stage cyberattacks. Shouldn't the "pool" of people who could potentially do these tasks be very small ?

They can import resources of varying degree.

Luckily they,assuming its the NK, weren't able to access the government networks. This leads me to believe that either their capabilities are impressive but not too threatening (as this will make SK take more precautions with their cyber security) or they do have dangerous capabilities and chose not to attack the government networks thus allowing them to hide their "trump" card.
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 21 2013 13:07 GMT
#827
In typical Dennis Rodman style, it looks like the former NBA star accidentally revealed a big North Korean secret on Tuesday. The country has been keeping rumours of a potential heir under wraps, but Rodman spilled the beans to The Sun in an interview.

“She kept talking about their beautiful baby daughter,” he said when asked about Kim Jong Un’s wife Ri Sol-ju, who probably now regrets saying this to Dennis Rodman.


http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/03/19/dennis-rodman-seems-to-let-it-slip-that-kim-jong-un-has-a-daughter/
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sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
March 21 2013 13:21 GMT
#828
Just a couple updates, nothing groundbreaking.

South Korean Bank/Computer network attacks originated from Chinese IP

A hacking attack on the servers of South Korean broadcasters and banks originated from an IP address based in China, officials in Seoul said on Thursday, raising suspicions the intrusion came from North Korea.

An unnamed official from South Korea's presidential office was quoted by the Yonhap news agency as saying the discovery of the IP address indicated Pyongyang was responsible for the attack on Wednesday.


North Korea barks more threats at Japan/Guam
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 21 2013 13:29 GMT
#829
There were more drills by NK yesterday night. (European time)

(LEAD) N. Korea issues air raid alert, orders military to take immediate actions

North Korea issued air raid alerts and ordered its military to take immediate action, the country's state media outlet said Thursday.

Korean Central Television, a TV and radio broadcaster, issued the alert at 9:30 a.m. and ordered military personnel and civilians to take cover. It added authorities called on the armed forces to take swift countermeasures to reduce damage before officially sounding the alert at 10:30 a.m.


Yonhap
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Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 13:42:16
March 21 2013 13:41 GMT
#830
On March 21 2013 22:29 Grettin wrote:
There were more drills by NK yesterday night. (European time)

(LEAD) N. Korea issues air raid alert, orders military to take immediate actions

Show nested quote +
North Korea issued air raid alerts and ordered its military to take immediate action, the country's state media outlet said Thursday.

Korean Central Television, a TV and radio broadcaster, issued the alert at 9:30 a.m. and ordered military personnel and civilians to take cover. It added authorities called on the armed forces to take swift countermeasures to reduce damage before officially sounding the alert at 10:30 a.m.


Yonhap

edit my bad i misunderstood
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 22 2013 10:07 GMT
#831
Imports of N. Korean seafood resumes in China's border area

SHENYANG, China, March 22 (Yonhap) -- China's import of North Korean fishery products resumed after a week-long suspension, presumably linked with Pyongyang's warlike rhetoric towards the outside world, a media report said Friday.

China News Service, a semi-official media outlet, said that after Pyongyang escalated tensions by threatening to attack the United States, inbound shipments of North Korean shellfish to Hunchun, a city near the North's eastern border, and other border areas were almost suspended.


http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2013/03/22/0401000000AEN20130322008500315.HTML
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xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
March 22 2013 17:49 GMT
#832
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4848631/Dennis-Rodman-says-North-Korean-leader-Kim-Jong-un-is-fun-loving-disco-fan.html

Interesting read about Dennis Rodman's experience to North Korea
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 22 2013 19:37 GMT
#833
On March 20 2013 18:18 Marti wrote:
I'm actually surprised that a country like North korea, whose people should have very very limited access to computers, and an even more restricted access to internet can stage cyberattacks. Shouldn't the "pool" of people who could potentially do these tasks be very small ?


No. The North Korean regime has been training hundreds of dedicated hackers to carry out cyber-warfare against it's enemies, mainly South Korea. This has been documented for years.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/20/174847448/when-it-comes-to-cyber-warfare-north-korea-is-no-newbie
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest+News/Science+and+Tech/Story/A1Story20130322-410626.html
http://cyberarms.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/north-koreas-cyber-war-forces/

I posted in this thread a few weeks ago that North Korea would launch cyber-attacks on the South and that was exactly what happened. It is a low-risk form of assymmetric warfare for them.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:34:04
March 25 2013 18:33 GMT
#834
North Korea has submitted yet another entry to its ongoing propaganda film festival. This time, it has released a video that threatens an attack on U.S. forces using "powerful weapons of mass destruction" and depicts an invasion of Seoul in which 150,000 American citizens are taken hostage.




Link here:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/north-korea-video-propaganda-us-troops-rockets-125355219.html
Hemling
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden93 Posts
March 25 2013 18:42 GMT
#835
really cool vid, love the music 4/5!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 18:46:24
March 25 2013 18:44 GMT
#836
The issue here is that North Korea has given the U.S. grounds to use any technology up to and including nuclear weaponry to defend itself... to such a point that other nations would not be able to say there was insufficient justification. We all know North Korea's history of saber rattling among other ridiculous behavior, but when a nation threatens to use nuclear weapons to attack another nation, that nation is now justified in a pre-emptive nuclear strike. That is very serious for all parties involved.

Summary: Nations should never preemptively threaten to use nuclear weapons against another nation.

edit: I should be clear that I am not responding specifically to this video that was just posted, but overall
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 25 2013 18:44 GMT
#837
On March 26 2013 03:42 Hemling wrote:
really cool vid, love the music 4/5!

well if you find it cool you'll probably like this one too
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 25 2013 18:50 GMT
#838
On March 26 2013 03:44 micronesia wrote:
The issue here is that North Korea has given the U.S. grounds to use any technology up to and including nuclear weaponry to defend itself... to such a point that other nations would not be able to say there was insufficient justification. We all know North Korea's history of saber rattling among other ridiculous behavior, but when a nation threatens to use nuclear weapons to attack another nation, that nation is now justified in a pre-emptive nuclear strike. That is very serious for all parties involved.

Summary: Nations should never preemptively threaten to use nuclear weapons against another nation.

edit: I should be clear that I am not responding specifically to this video that was just posted, but overall

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use
As of October 2008, China,[1] India[2] and North Korea[3] have publicly declared their commitment to no first use of nuclear weapons.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
March 25 2013 18:53 GMT
#839
On March 26 2013 03:50 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 03:44 micronesia wrote:
The issue here is that North Korea has given the U.S. grounds to use any technology up to and including nuclear weaponry to defend itself... to such a point that other nations would not be able to say there was insufficient justification. We all know North Korea's history of saber rattling among other ridiculous behavior, but when a nation threatens to use nuclear weapons to attack another nation, that nation is now justified in a pre-emptive nuclear strike. That is very serious for all parties involved.

Summary: Nations should never preemptively threaten to use nuclear weapons against another nation.

edit: I should be clear that I am not responding specifically to this video that was just posted, but overall

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_first_use
Show nested quote +
As of October 2008, China,[1] India[2] and North Korea[3] have publicly declared their commitment to no first use of nuclear weapons.

I see this is irrelevant if a country threatens first use of nuclear weapons. If I am wrong (due to forum/media misrepresentation) and North Korea has not done this then of course the USA does not have justification in the eyes of other nations to pre-emptively use nuclear weapons.
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SheepleArePeopleToo
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden73 Posts
March 25 2013 18:55 GMT
#840
On March 26 2013 03:33 Assault_1 wrote:
North Korea has submitted yet another entry to its ongoing propaganda film festival. This time, it has released a video that threatens an attack on U.S. forces using "powerful weapons of mass destruction" and depicts an invasion of Seoul in which 150,000 American citizens are taken hostage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VQ7NjGeIRw


Link here:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/north-korea-video-propaganda-us-troops-rockets-125355219.html



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