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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 16:29:52
November 22 2012 16:27 GMT
#121
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.

UN and other countries helping "losing" side creates more problems in long run as winners want to get justice eventually. Even gives more hatred as they didn't get help from outside rich countries and killing continues.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 22 2012 16:36 GMT
#122
so weird how a lot of the minerals that make our iphones and shit come from that part of the world
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
November 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#123
Sad to hear that, but I'm not surprised.

There are way too many un-sourced claims going around in this thread for me to have a serious discussion, so I'll leave it at that.
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Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 16:40:32
November 22 2012 16:39 GMT
#124
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.


Actually, if we didn't provide the financial incentive for warlords to squabble over minerals, and if we stopped selling them weapons, there would be a lot less casualties.

But way too many people are making too much money from the situation for that to happen.
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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 16:59:44
November 22 2012 16:56 GMT
#125
On November 23 2012 01:02 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:57 Cheerio wrote:
On November 22 2012 17:03 KwarK wrote:
Things were better when we owned the damn place. If it weren't for all the anti-imperialist protests we could invade, steal 90% of the natural wealth of the country and still be doing everyone a favour. These countries ought to be among the richest in the world, even in the grips of civil war and anarchy there is still enough wealth to fund constant warfare.
Unfortunately nobody wants the bad PR involved with imperialism these days, far better to indirectly sponsor it with demand for the riches of the country while ensuring that a black guy pulls the trigger.
You'd better be kidding...


I don't think that's what KwarK is suggesting as a solution to the current crisis, but he makes a valid point. This is real life :\

A solution is to send military peacekeeping forces, not to invade and recapture the whole region and strip them of the resources.
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.
Like Nazi Germany did or Russia into USSR?
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
November 22 2012 16:59 GMT
#126
On November 23 2012 01:39 Nightfall.589 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.


Actually, if we didn't provide the financial incentive for warlords to squabble over minerals, and if we stopped selling them weapons, there would be a lot less casualties.

But way too many people are making too much money from the situation for that to happen.

Unfortunately it would also destroy what economy they have and would mean all phones/computers etc. would be more expensive for us.
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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 18:12:07
November 22 2012 17:56 GMT
#127
On November 23 2012 01:59 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:39 Nightfall.589 wrote:
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.


Actually, if we didn't provide the financial incentive for warlords to squabble over minerals, and if we stopped selling them weapons, there would be a lot less casualties.

But way too many people are making too much money from the situation for that to happen.

Unfortunately it would also destroy what economy they have and would mean all phones/computers etc. would be more expensive for us.


I dont think he realizes just how much these countires depend on food import...

Anyway, anyone know why they are fighting?

Edit: Nvm, read up, to bring glorious socialism on for benefit of great africa.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 22 2012 18:17 GMT
#128
On November 23 2012 01:56 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:02 Xpace wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:57 Cheerio wrote:
On November 22 2012 17:03 KwarK wrote:
Things were better when we owned the damn place. If it weren't for all the anti-imperialist protests we could invade, steal 90% of the natural wealth of the country and still be doing everyone a favour. These countries ought to be among the richest in the world, even in the grips of civil war and anarchy there is still enough wealth to fund constant warfare.
Unfortunately nobody wants the bad PR involved with imperialism these days, far better to indirectly sponsor it with demand for the riches of the country while ensuring that a black guy pulls the trigger.
You'd better be kidding...


I don't think that's what KwarK is suggesting as a solution to the current crisis, but he makes a valid point. This is real life :\

A solution is to send military peacekeeping forces, not to invade and recapture the whole region and strip them of the resources.


And who would green light that?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44404 Posts
November 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#129
On November 23 2012 00:57 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 17:03 KwarK wrote:
Things were better when we owned the damn place. If it weren't for all the anti-imperialist protests we could invade, steal 90% of the natural wealth of the country and still be doing everyone a favour. These countries ought to be among the richest in the world, even in the grips of civil war and anarchy there is still enough wealth to fund constant warfare.
Unfortunately nobody wants the bad PR involved with imperialism these days, far better to indirectly sponsor it with demand for the riches of the country while ensuring that a black guy pulls the trigger.
You'd better be kidding...

The same people are suffering for the same reasons while the same interests profit as before. The only thing that has changed is now we can wring our hands and tell ourselves how terrible it is while sleeping very well at night.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 22 2012 18:29 GMT
#130
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.

UN and other countries helping "losing" side creates more problems in long run as winners want to get justice eventually. Even gives more hatred as they didn't get help from outside rich countries and killing continues.


You ignore that China and western countries are in Africa precisely becuase there are resources there that those countries want. No country will willingly forgoe influence for no reason.

On November 23 2012 01:56 Cheerio wrote:
A solution is to send military peacekeeping forces, not to invade and recapture the whole region and strip them of the resources.


A peacekeeping force will end up invading and recapturing the whole region.
You don't really think that just because an army is called a peacekeeping force, they will magically impose peace do you?
The guns they carry and and amoured personnel carriers they ride upon are just for show, they shoot out peace!

And then they will withdraw. Repeat ad infinitum, and across as many countries as within living memory.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
November 22 2012 18:39 GMT
#131
On November 23 2012 03:24 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:57 Cheerio wrote:
On November 22 2012 17:03 KwarK wrote:
Things were better when we owned the damn place. If it weren't for all the anti-imperialist protests we could invade, steal 90% of the natural wealth of the country and still be doing everyone a favour. These countries ought to be among the richest in the world, even in the grips of civil war and anarchy there is still enough wealth to fund constant warfare.
Unfortunately nobody wants the bad PR involved with imperialism these days, far better to indirectly sponsor it with demand for the riches of the country while ensuring that a black guy pulls the trigger.
You'd better be kidding...

The same people are suffering for the same reasons while the same interests profit as before. The only thing that has changed is now we can wring our hands and tell ourselves how terrible it is while sleeping very well at night.


Yeah, but your proposed solution is to regress back rather than move forward. Even back in the days of absolute imperialism, I'm sure people slept well. There's always plenty of rationalizations.

The answer is truth. Share it, brotha. But don't get twisted by it.
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
November 22 2012 18:56 GMT
#132
On November 22 2012 15:52 Shady Sands wrote:
The UN is going into full obs mode, and analysts speculate that M23 is likely supplied by Rwanda, Uganda, or another 3rd party, since the rebel group has equipment like night vision goggles and 120mm Israeli-made mortars, and better small arms than the Congolese army.

We payed for those weapons indirectly. Militias mine Coltan and sell it, it ends up in our computers etc. Most people dont know, and its not like theres a "fair trade" sign for computers. Should be tho, seeing as 13 % of it is produced by bloodshed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan#Ethics_of_Coltan_mining_in_the_Democratic_Republic_of_Congo


docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
November 22 2012 18:58 GMT
#133
I don't think there are really any fingers to point to at this point. There are a lot of things that could have been done differently there, but the main thing that one must understand is that nothing can be done at this point. People screwed up the entire world, but unlike most areas where people rose up and grabbed power, modernized, and sucked the dick of other big countries to become stabilized, the congo never did that. In fact, most modern African nations have done that to the Nth degree, but a lot of subsaharan ones just can't get on their feet to do so. After Europe split up africa into it's own vassal areas, they destroyed the tribal grounds, along with the make up of pre-european imperialist africa. So basically, Kwark's opinion, though valid, is historically incorrect. What should be done now is imperialism. At this point, some country needs to go into the Congo, unify it under 1 dictator that is bent on westernizing the country, and then pretty much let it play out from there. If there is a revolution from that point, so be it. As much as I hate nation-building, at this point that really seems like the only thing left to do there.
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 22 2012 19:01 GMT
#134
On November 23 2012 02:56 Catch]22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:59 jello_biafra wrote:
On November 23 2012 01:39 Nightfall.589 wrote:
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.


Actually, if we didn't provide the financial incentive for warlords to squabble over minerals, and if we stopped selling them weapons, there would be a lot less casualties.

But way too many people are making too much money from the situation for that to happen.

Unfortunately it would also destroy what economy they have and would mean all phones/computers etc. would be more expensive for us.


I dont think he realizes just how much these countires depend on food import...

Anyway, anyone know why they are fighting?

Edit: Nvm, read up, to bring glorious socialism on for benefit of great africa.


dont bullshit yourself dude. In the end they fight because they want to control the mines which would make them filthy rich because our modern world depends on those mines.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#135
On November 22 2012 19:45 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 19:40 Shady Sands wrote:
On November 22 2012 19:34 1Dhalism wrote:
takes a special kind of ignorance to, while talking in hypotheticals, out of all possible imaginable situations to pick a murderous and oppressive regime and talk about it with such pride and affection.
There is something very wrong with you Kwark.

Kwark is arriving at his conclusions by logic. Now, while that logic may be flawed and the conclusions are certainly absurd, to engage in that sort of critical thinking without presuppositions is a mark of intellectual bravery, and to be admired.

By no means do I think the colonial rule in the past was a good thing, I just think it was simpler and more honest than the current system. Had it continued the locals would at least hate Europeans rather than each other.


I can respect that.
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 22 2012 20:07 GMT
#136
On November 23 2012 04:01 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 02:56 Catch]22 wrote:
On November 23 2012 01:59 jello_biafra wrote:
On November 23 2012 01:39 Nightfall.589 wrote:
On November 23 2012 01:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Quite frankly westerners/asians should cut ties to all African nations and let Africa deal its problems natural way. Of course theres going to be a lot casualties but at some point it would stabilize.


Actually, if we didn't provide the financial incentive for warlords to squabble over minerals, and if we stopped selling them weapons, there would be a lot less casualties.

But way too many people are making too much money from the situation for that to happen.

Unfortunately it would also destroy what economy they have and would mean all phones/computers etc. would be more expensive for us.


I dont think he realizes just how much these countires depend on food import...

Anyway, anyone know why they are fighting?

Edit: Nvm, read up, to bring glorious socialism on for benefit of great africa.


dont bullshit yourself dude. In the end they fight because they want to control the mines which would make them filthy rich because our modern world depends on those mines.

Like many present day African military groups, there seems to be no clear ideology. The RUF, Interhamwe, M23, and the NPP do not seem to advocating communism, anti-colonialism, fascism, Christian or Islamic theocracy (LRA is the exception.) Most of these groups seem to be anti-government until they get into power.
Gardel
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico220 Posts
November 22 2012 20:10 GMT
#137
On November 22 2012 17:10 RenSC2 wrote:
Dear America (my country),

We already have Afghanistan and Iraq. We have a potential major threat in Iran which can't be ignored completely. We have conflict in Israel/Palestine. We have some involvement in Libya. We're waiting on Syria, but will likely be involved in some way soon. There's always a threat from N. Korea looming and even China seems to be pushing it's borders.

We are stretched thin. We don't need the Congo. We'd spend more money stabilizing that region than we could ever hope to gain from it in mineral wealth. They aren't attacking us. They aren't threatening us. They have nothing to do with us. Let's keep it that way.

Let the world see what happens when the United States doesn't get involved (5 million deaths and counting!). Maybe then the world will see that we aren't the big baddies that go around sowing conflict like they blame us for in the middle east. Maybe then the world will see that our military activities actually prevent more deaths than they cause. Maybe then the world will get back to wanting us involved.

Not now.


I didn´t know America was a country!. I must have been living in a lie all my life then .
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alainysaur
Profile Joined September 2012
United States131 Posts
November 22 2012 20:20 GMT
#138
Man this is really sad. That country is so beautiful with the congo basin/rainforest.
Unfortunately, these people with "power" have no interest in working together. They want to out do eachother ...
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
November 22 2012 20:32 GMT
#139
On November 23 2012 03:58 docvoc wrote:
I don't think there are really any fingers to point to at this point. There are a lot of things that could have been done differently there, but the main thing that one must understand is that nothing can be done at this point. People screwed up the entire world, but unlike most areas where people rose up and grabbed power, modernized, and sucked the dick of other big countries to become stabilized, the congo never did that. In fact, most modern African nations have done that to the Nth degree, but a lot of subsaharan ones just can't get on their feet to do so. After Europe split up africa into it's own vassal areas, they destroyed the tribal grounds, along with the make up of pre-european imperialist africa. So basically, Kwark's opinion, though valid, is historically incorrect. What should be done now is imperialism. At this point, some country needs to go into the Congo, unify it under 1 dictator that is bent on westernizing the country, and then pretty much let it play out from there. If there is a revolution from that point, so be it. As much as I hate nation-building, at this point that really seems like the only thing left to do there.

Doc, why not just trade peacefully with them, and do some quiet nudging to get them in the right direction? Instead of selling them weapons, sell them infrastructure and education?
Что?
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 22 2012 20:49 GMT
#140
On November 23 2012 05:32 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 03:58 docvoc wrote:
I don't think there are really any fingers to point to at this point. There are a lot of things that could have been done differently there, but the main thing that one must understand is that nothing can be done at this point. People screwed up the entire world, but unlike most areas where people rose up and grabbed power, modernized, and sucked the dick of other big countries to become stabilized, the congo never did that. In fact, most modern African nations have done that to the Nth degree, but a lot of subsaharan ones just can't get on their feet to do so. After Europe split up africa into it's own vassal areas, they destroyed the tribal grounds, along with the make up of pre-european imperialist africa. So basically, Kwark's opinion, though valid, is historically incorrect. What should be done now is imperialism. At this point, some country needs to go into the Congo, unify it under 1 dictator that is bent on westernizing the country, and then pretty much let it play out from there. If there is a revolution from that point, so be it. As much as I hate nation-building, at this point that really seems like the only thing left to do there.

Doc, why not just trade peacefully with them, and do some quiet nudging to get them in the right direction? Instead of selling them weapons, sell them infrastructure and education?


Because unlike what people like to tell themselves, that this weapon trade is some giant organized scheme that is manipulated by the western world, it is in reality a criminal enterprise run by criminals who are invested in trading weapons, for the sole reason that it provides them with obsene wealth.

The weapon trade can't be turned on or off any easier than the drug trade, and just like there are criminals that can provide enough cocaine to get a small nation high, there are also criminals that can provide entire rebel armies with everything they might need to overthrow a government.

It's easier to think it's the evil CIA, like it's all controlled and that somewhere there is someone that is in control, but the truth is that nobody is in control of the whole thing.
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