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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
November 10 2012 14:03 GMT
#41
I knew this article was a joke when it claimed Energy drinks were half the price of the soda.

When an article is that far off of a very obviously and easy to check fact, you need to ignore it completely and find better media to try and let brainwash you.

Looking at you, people who actually believe anything Fox News or Daily Mail says.
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JPP
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland104 Posts
November 10 2012 14:05 GMT
#42
On November 10 2012 23:03 Figgy wrote:
I knew this article was a joke when it claimed Energy drinks were half the price of the soda.

When an article is that far off of a very obviously and easy to check fact, you need to ignore it completely and find better media to try and let brainwash you.

Looking at you, people who actually believe anything Fox News or Daily Mail says.

So you know better than all the finnish people here who have been saying that it's true? At my local store, a 0.5 l soda is 1.90€, while you can get a 0.5l energy drink for 1€. That's pretty much half-price.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 10 2012 14:11 GMT
#43
Not just kids are doing this.
Most people who walk into a shop to buy a bottle of drink will not come out with a bottle of coke or a water, they come out with a can of red bull or any other numerous energy drink label. Something needs to happen with these energy drinks imo, they are not good for you in large amounts and are only supposed to be used as stimulants, just like coffee is a good "wake up" drink.
Be interesting how they tackle this issue in the coming years, as im sure it will cause issues with health down the line.
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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 14:20:47
November 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#44
On November 10 2012 23:03 Figgy wrote:
I knew this article was a joke when it claimed Energy drinks were half the price of the soda.

When an article is that far off of a very obviously and easy to check fact, you need to ignore it completely and find better media to try and let brainwash you.

Looking at you, people who actually believe anything Fox News or Daily Mail says.

But the article isn't a joke. I really wish people under 15 couldn't buy energy drinks, so they couldn't fuck up their health so easily.
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
November 10 2012 14:19 GMT
#45
"Consuming energy drinks can exert acute positive benefits on myocardial performance, according to research presented August 27 at the ESC Congress by Dr Matteo Cameli from University of Siena."In recent years the energy drink market has exploded, with more people than ever before turning to these products as quick 'pick me ups', whether to stay awake during all night study vigils or gain the edge in sport," said Dr Cameli."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120827074148.htm

And the half price thing seems crazy. Buying a 2L bottle of pop is roughly just less than $2 any given day where I live. The cheapest energy drink of the 473ml variety is at cheapest, $2.50 as part of a deal. I don't think I've ever seen, even as part of a sale, equality in price per size for an energy drink and a pop, let alone half the price of a similar-sized pop.
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MajorProblem
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden14 Posts
November 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#46
Sweden had the same debate several years ago, it ended with a voluntary sales restriction. No store sells energy drink to anyone younger than 15.
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BlACKTrA
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany187 Posts
November 10 2012 14:23 GMT
#47
why are always talking about the expensive energy drinks like red bull or monster, even in Germany there are
1,5 litre bottles for 80 cents available ,but they have all exactly the same amount of caffeine & taurin
if you look more closely at the ingridients...
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#48
When did TL-general turn into a home for the elderly?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 10 2012 14:33 GMT
#49
Clearly, the solution is to ban Beer.
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
November 10 2012 15:03 GMT
#50
Energy drinks aren't any worse than coffee with sugar. Pretending that they're "dangerous" is silly.

Lets get some sources that show they're more dangerous than coffee, because I've never seen any. And no one is up in arms about kids drinking coffee.

If it's the caffeine, coffee contains double per 8oz.

If it's the sugar, there are obviously varying levels of sugar in all energy drinks, from sugar-free to tons of it. Same for sodas, same for coffee. Should be done in moderation, but its no more dangerous than any other sugar drink.

It we're going to pretend it's the supplements, then that's crazy, as its pretty much just a few vitamins and amino acids which range from useless to good for you.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 10 2012 15:08 GMT
#51
Like all things in life, consume in moderation. If you abuse it, there's a tiny, nearly statistically irrelevant chance you'll die because of a preexisting heart condition or something like that.

It's not a big deal. People die from all kinds of things all the time, we can't go and ban everything or control everything. Keep telling the parents about the potential dangers and leave it at that. And once in a while someone will die - but in the same time period, hundreds of people will have died from choking from trying to swallow a huge hunk of meat.
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Geefking
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia41 Posts
November 10 2012 15:11 GMT
#52
been having jager bombs all night
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 10 2012 15:13 GMT
#53
Am I the only one who finds this really funny hahaha I'm talking about the finnish kids hahaha. Kids nowadays..

That's making me wonder how's the marketing of energy drinks like, and is that 'buzz' like a beer high? I don't know how it feels because I've never drank a can of sugar, sugar and sugar before.
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Kich
Profile Joined April 2011
United States339 Posts
November 10 2012 15:19 GMT
#54
On November 10 2012 20:25 Callynn wrote:
I used to do this in my youth, and yes it can cause diabetes, it can cause hypertension and yes, it can cause dizziness and sleep problems.

But let's put this into perspective, I am now 26 y/o and my brain is in perfect health, the same cannot be said for kids who would have abused alcohol instead of energy drink. I am glad it's more focused on a less harmful substance than alcohol at the moment, and comparing sugar + cafein with alcohol is retarded at best (said from a biochemical and health standpoint).

However, I do think there should be warnings on the cans with a recommended limit (not the small 1mm line there is right now).

Also, its less harmful than sigarettes. There is a limit that governments should not cross when trying to stop people from consuming potential harmful drinks. I would be pissed if I couldnt do my exams without energy drinks back then, but also today (though I switched to expensive drinks like RedBull which don't screw up my intestines and which keep me from overconsumption).

Drinking 20 litres of water is also bad for your health. So what I recommend is education - teach the kids in school (during health, PE and/or biology classes) that overconsumption of energy drink is bad for their health and warn them about the possible problems that could arise from overusage.


Can we just do away entirely with the "JUST SLAP A WARNING ON IT AND TELL THEM ITS BAD!" mentality? I'm not attacking you here, it's just that warnings are universally useless. If you can't judge yourself whether something might cause you harm, then we have way more things to worry about than people consuming sugar.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 15:27:07
November 10 2012 15:23 GMT
#55
On November 11 2012 00:19 Kich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 20:25 Callynn wrote:
I used to do this in my youth, and yes it can cause diabetes, it can cause hypertension and yes, it can cause dizziness and sleep problems.

But let's put this into perspective, I am now 26 y/o and my brain is in perfect health, the same cannot be said for kids who would have abused alcohol instead of energy drink. I am glad it's more focused on a less harmful substance than alcohol at the moment, and comparing sugar + cafein with alcohol is retarded at best (said from a biochemical and health standpoint).

However, I do think there should be warnings on the cans with a recommended limit (not the small 1mm line there is right now).

Also, its less harmful than sigarettes. There is a limit that governments should not cross when trying to stop people from consuming potential harmful drinks. I would be pissed if I couldnt do my exams without energy drinks back then, but also today (though I switched to expensive drinks like RedBull which don't screw up my intestines and which keep me from overconsumption).

Drinking 20 litres of water is also bad for your health. So what I recommend is education - teach the kids in school (during health, PE and/or biology classes) that overconsumption of energy drink is bad for their health and warn them about the possible problems that could arise from overusage.


Can we just do away entirely with the "JUST SLAP A WARNING ON IT AND TELL THEM ITS BAD!" mentality? I'm not attacking you here, it's just that warnings are universally useless. If you can't judge yourself whether something might cause you harm, then we have way more things to worry about than people consuming sugar.

What do you suggest? Barge in people's house and whip them 10 times if they try to open a second can?
Doing a little something that's not invasive is better than doing nothing. If it can make a few people realize that they shouldn't abuse a product it's good.
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Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
November 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#56
Seems like energy drinks are vastly cheaper everywhere else in the world. We're at about $4-5 a can, even from the supermarket.

Energy drinks are pretty dangerous, mostly because they can help you push yourself beyond whats normally capable. In the case of kids drinking them by themselves, this can't be good. But when they get mixed with alcohol is when they can become very dangerous - if they sustain you more than usual, so you can drink more alcohol, it's quite possible to get severe alcohol poisoning where you would have otherwise just passed out way beforehand without the energy drink. Something to be careful about.
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
November 10 2012 15:34 GMT
#57
Let's see what Incontrol has to say about this topic.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 10 2012 15:37 GMT
#58
16+ to drink those toxin cans. It's serieus poison, and should have regulations like smoking and alcohol does.
Neeh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway458 Posts
November 10 2012 15:38 GMT
#59
It's hillarious, last week I passed some 12 year old sipping on a can each, with a bag of more between them. I actually stopped and made a face as I looked at 'em..

Can't do much about it, it's "cool"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 10 2012 15:39 GMT
#60
On November 11 2012 00:37 Lysanias wrote:
16+ to drink those toxin cans. It's serieus poison, and should have regulations like smoking and alcohol does.

It's a lot less dangerous than many of the things we consume every day. Calling it "poison" is a bit abusive.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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