EPTEnergy Drinks - Kids Beer? - Page 4
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SuperHarryoBro
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:03 Felnarion wrote: Energy drinks aren't any worse than coffee with sugar. Pretending that they're "dangerous" is silly. Lets get some sources that show they're more dangerous than coffee, because I've never seen any. And no one is up in arms about kids drinking coffee. If it's the caffeine, coffee contains double per 8oz. If it's the sugar, there are obviously varying levels of sugar in all energy drinks, from sugar-free to tons of it. Same for sodas, same for coffee. Should be done in moderation, but its no more dangerous than any other sugar drink. It we're going to pretend it's the supplements, then that's crazy, as its pretty much just a few vitamins and amino acids which range from useless to good for you. that seems very doubtful. Care to provide sources? Although i do think the same restrictions should apply to coffee, but kids generally don't drink coffee, unlike energy drinks. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:39 Djzapz wrote: It's a lot less dangerous than many of the things we consume every day. Calling it "poison" is a bit abusive. Like what would you consider more dangerous, now i am intrested. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On November 10 2012 20:31 brachester wrote: half the price of regular soda? hell, those monster energy drink is twice the price of cola around here. It's explained pretty clear that cheap energy drinks are no-name brands...he's not talking about Monster or RedBull brands. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:42 Lysanias wrote: Like what would you consider less, now i am intrested. Considering how few people die every year from energy drinks (very few), a lot more people die every year choking on steak. Peanut butter is the cause of death of 50 to 100 people every year in the US alone. So peanut butter is more dangerous than energy drinks. We don't complain about peanut butter tho :o | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:46 HwangjaeTerran wrote: It's a sign of a healthy society when even kids do anything and everything to escape reality. Mother of God, what do you guys think energy drinks do? O_o. "Escape reality"... come on. | ||
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
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loiop
34 Posts
Energy drinks also appeal to kids because of their price, which is often half of regular soda. Not completely false. You can find couple popular brands of energy drinks in finland that are half the price to the equivalent size of pepsi or coca cola drink. Sodas are probably more expensive than in US: 1.5 litres of coke costs around 2.40 euros I'd say and 0.5 litres costs 1.8-1.9 euros and the popular energy drinks amond kids are under 1 euro for 0.5L. Nobody buys the 1.5 litre bottle if they want to drink it asap. Sodas have cheaper brands aswell but those aren't that popular or harder to get meaning only specific stores sell some of the cheaper brands. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:41 sharky246 wrote: that seems very doubtful. Care to provide sources? Although i do think the same restrictions should apply to coffee, kids generally don't drink coffee, unlike energy drinks. http://www.cspinet.org/new/cafchart.htm Coffee generally has double the caffeine per oz, but it's not universal. For ex, Einstein Bro's regular coffee is 300 mg per 16 oz and monster energy is 160 mg per 16 oz. Of course, there's drink likes Spike Shooter with double the 'normal' caffeine. | ||
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ClairvoyanceSC2
United States758 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:51 Myles wrote: http://www.cspinet.org/new/cafchart.htm Coffee generally has double the caffeine per oz, but it's not universal. For ex, Einstein Bro's regular coffee is 300 mg per 16 oz and monster energy is 160 mg per 16 oz. Of course, there's drink likes Spike Shooter with double the 'normal' caffeine. There is something to be said for that, but in most cases I would be willing to bet the extraneous chemical components in most energy drinks (Monster, Red Bull, Rockstar, Snake Eyes etc.) have more adverse affects than coffee when consumed en masse. Not to mention, the fact that most of these drinks contain multiple daily servings of several nutrients. In most cases that is no big deal, your body will simply dispose of the the excess. My concern for things like this is the risk of dependency. These kinds of energy drinks were just kicking off when I was in high school, and I saw kids that would carry 3 or 4 cans to make it through the day. Ostensibly people do similar things with Coffee as well, I would be curious to see if there were any indications or examples of dependency or withdrawal from energy drinks. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:46 HwangjaeTerran wrote: It's a sign of a healthy society when even kids do anything and everything to escape reality. yeah, bro get all caffeinated and tripp bro like totally bro, pink elephants bro. | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:58 ThomasjServo wrote: There is something to be said for that, but in most cases I would be willing to bet the extraneous chemical components in most energy drinks (Monster, Red Bull, Rockstar, Snake Eyes etc.) have more adverse affects than coffee when consumed en masse. Not to mention, the fact that most of these drinks contain multiple daily servings of several nutrients. In most cases that is no big deal, your body will simply dispose of the the excess. My concern for things like this is the risk of dependency. These kinds of energy drinks were just kicking off when I was in high school, and I saw kids that would carry 3 or 4 cans to make it through the day. Ostensibly people do similar things with Coffee as well, I would be curious to see if there were any indications or examples of dependency or withdrawal from energy drinks. "extraneous chemicals"? lmao. You mean the supplements like B vitamins, inositol, taurine? those have been used for a very long time and are safe. Ginseng and guarana are also safe and have been used for 1000's of years. The only thing unsafe is drinking 60grams of sugar in one sitting. | ||
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:58 ThomasjServo wrote: There is something to be said for that, but in most cases I would be willing to bet the extraneous chemical components in most energy drinks (Monster, Red Bull, Rockstar, Snake Eyes etc.) have more adverse affects than coffee when consumed en masse. Not to mention, the fact that most of these drinks contain multiple daily servings of several nutrients. In most cases that is no big deal, your body will simply dispose of the the excess. My concern for things like this is the risk of dependency. These kinds of energy drinks were just kicking off when I was in high school, and I saw kids that would carry 3 or 4 cans to make it through the day. Ostensibly people do similar things with Coffee as well, I would be curious to see if there were any indications or examples of dependency or withdrawal from energy drinks. I'd imagine it's the same as people who drink coffee or soda regularly. I do, and if I go ~12-16 hours without a Coke I start getting a headache and other symptoms. But people don't seem worried about that, but the rare chance that someone with a per-existing condition has a heath complication because of over-consumption. Oh, and because kids are acting like they're getting 'buzzed'. Hell, ban pixie sticks because some of us tried snorting them as kids(don't do it btw, burns like hell). | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On November 11 2012 01:05 Myles wrote: I'd imagine it's the same as people who drink coffee or soda regularly. I do, and if I go ~12-16 hours without a Coke I start getting a headache and other symptoms. True in all honesty it is probably pretty innocuous, I just try to stay away from that much sugar. I drink more coffee than your average bear, but always black. That amount of sugar makes me twitch just thinking about it, or that may be my 3rd cup of coffee XD | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:46 HwangjaeTerran wrote: It's a sign of a healthy society when even kids do anything and everything to escape reality. thats really pushing that far. also in that age (~14-18) you just wanna test out things ,be cool, get kicks. thats totally normal. i did WAY WAY worse things at that age... not saying that "our" society is on a good way tho.. | ||
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farvacola
United States18875 Posts
On November 11 2012 01:05 Myles wrote: I'd imagine it's the same as people who drink coffee or soda regularly. I do, and if I go ~12-16 hours without a Coke I start getting a headache and other symptoms. But people don't seem worried about that, but the rare chance that someone with a per-existing condition has a heath complication because of over-consumption. Oh, and because kids are acting like they're getting 'buzzed'. Hell, ban pixie sticks because some of us tried snorting them as kids(don't do it btw, burns like hell). Real men snort sour skittles crystals! (I do not actually condone this behavior, as it will cause an immediate and intense nosebleed.) | ||
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