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On October 14 2012 12:00 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 11:54 lilsusie wrote:
I think a lot of you are taking this on from a somewhat logical 20+ year old male point of view. Please don't make assumptions about her if you don't know what it's like to be a 13-15 year old female.
I feel for her, because everyone does stupid things and makes mistakes in their lives. Unfortunately, she was just extraordinarily reprimanded for her actions by bullies who probably don't realize how much they affected her. Do you really think that those kids who sent her messages like "I hope you die" really meant it? Years from now, those words are going to haunt them when they think back to this situation. Human beings are brutal, teens especially. Yes I do think that the kids who said I hope you die ment it. They are fucking kids! Kids these days have never been more cruel, more undisiplined and more hateful. School cannt punish kids the way they need to so the problem won't ever be fixed. Unbanning the strap for usage would be a great way to fix the problem.
The problem is really with parents, not kids, so I don't think allowing any sort of punishment would fix anything. Before the kids give a shit, the parents need to give a shit, and most of them don't.
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Reading some of these posts, makes me lose faith in humanity.
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I'm convinced at this point that somewhere along the line, Amanda was bullshitting through her teeth. Not all of it, but definitely some areas (the bleach, the messages she was getting). I'm just waiting to see if there's anything that either proves or disproves my point.
Cell is having a field day with this one.
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What's sadder is that people only cared about her after she killed herself. I doubt she would ever have been able to find the support she needed if she continued living.
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This kind of thing happens in college and beyond too, it's not just limited to high school age groups...  I'm sad now, doesn't music help people? Music helped me. I'm starting to think maybe making music targeted at depressed/bullied people isn't the answer, maybe I need to take a more active role.
You see, I'd like to be making music for a living, and preferably music that helps people overcome stuff like this. I'd rather not be a psychotherapist. These bullied people need to start going on youtube more and meeting up with each other. People gotta stick together, yo.
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On October 14 2012 12:45 meegrean wrote:
What's sadder is that people only cared about her after she killed herself. I doubt she would ever have been able to find the support she needed if she continued living.
I agree 100%, all the kids in here school didn't give 2 shits until she killed herself.
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How about the guy who screenshotted the webcam and used that as blackmail. What the fuck is that? She was 12 or 13 at the time.. that's so pathetic.
I wonder how many kids are going to kill themselves before this kind of stuff can be stopped. It's sad that the only way they get attention is through suicide which I'm sure doesn't help with trying to make the right decision.
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Don't know if it's been said already. The video is touching, but I think the story revolves more around sexual predators than it does cyber bullying.
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On October 14 2012 12:45 meegrean wrote:
What's sadder is that people only cared about her after she killed herself. I doubt she would ever have been able to find the support she needed if she continued living.
this is the saddest thing and it is probably true.
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The interesting thing is...
Everyone says she made mistakes but never deserved the treatment she got.
What is incredibly ironic is that people should know this world is a fucked up place, and by doing something as incredibly stupid as what she did, it's just my opinion that in a way, she did deserve it.
Pardon my insensitivity, but people need to exercise more caution. Life does not have a get out of jail free card all of the time. When you fuck up, you pay. She chose to pay with her life. It's sad, but its the truth.
I guess i shall wait for the ban, but honest thoughts.
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Did they catch the predator? No chris hanson?
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I sent guys pics of my boobs too when I was 13/14. I had enough foresight to cut off my head to prevent these pics from ever being used for blackmail, but I did enough other stupid shit besides that to make up for it.
This isn't uncommon, at all. It's just that, if you're a guy, you probably haven't heard much about it because girls aren't going to walk up to you and say, "LOL I TOTALLY SENT GUYS PICS OF ME NAKED FOR ATTENTION, LOL" are they?
Yeah, it's stupid and it's immature, but it's that thing a lot of young girls do when they first start growing into sexual beings. Teenage girls often want to test their boundaries, play with their sexuality, test the effect they have on others. They often desperately want the approval of other people. They first learn what it's like to feel sexually desired and they experiment with it, hard. Many will have complicated relationships with sex to begin with due to puritanical upbringings/societal prejudice and etc. etc. what have you. It's fucking common.
She just got severely unlucky that she happened to send it to a seriously deranged stalker and be exposed to some of the worst people imaginable in high school. People saying she deserves it don't seem to have a very good understanding of what teenage girls are actually like.
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This sees so weird to me.... Why would a "Beautiful, Perfect whatever" girl get bullied and be hated for everyone for flashing a random dude once :/.... I'll never understand this fucking world
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On October 14 2012 14:06 Sawajiri wrote:
I sent guys pics of my boobs too when I was 13/14. I had enough foresight to cut off my head to prevent these pics from ever being used for blackmail, but I did enough other stupid shit besides that to make up for it.
This isn't uncommon, at all. It's just that, if you're a guy, you probably haven't heard much about it because girls aren't going to walk up to you and say, "LOL I TOTALLY SENT GUYS PICS OF ME NAKED FOR ATTENTION, LOL" are they?
Yeah, it's stupid and it's immature, but it's that thing a lot of young girls do when they first start growing into sexual beings. Teenage girls often want to test their boundaries, play with their sexuality, test the effect they have on others. They often desperately want the approval of other people. They first learn what it's like to feel sexually desired and they experiment with it, hard. Many will have complicated relationships with sex to begin with due to puritanical upbringings/societal prejudice and etc. etc. what have you. It's fucking common.
She just got severely unlucky that she happened to send it to a seriously deranged stalker and be exposed to some of the worst people imaginable in high school. People saying she deserves it don't seem to have a very good understanding of what teenage girls are actually like.
This is what i thought too. I know people pretty well who have made the same "mistakes" and have went on and been a little messed up or normal. That's why I can't believe people say it's her fault. This more of reflects nearly the worst in society that exists and the inhumaneness of youth shown in The Lord of the Flies.
It sucks. And those on facebook hoping she dies should be punished. It sends a strong message....and they deserve it
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So sad to see her die like that, I googled her name and there were memes of her and stuff... It's dumb, I hope the kids that bullied feel bad that she is dead now, and get the full punishment. Sure she made some mistakes in life but she was young, I'm sure everyone did some stupid stuff in their young life.
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On October 14 2012 14:06 Sawajiri wrote:
I sent guys pics of my boobs too when I was 13/14. I had enough foresight to cut off my head to prevent these pics from ever being used for blackmail, but I did enough other stupid shit besides that to make up for it.
This isn't uncommon, at all. It's just that, if you're a guy, you probably haven't heard much about it because girls aren't going to walk up to you and say, "LOL I TOTALLY SENT GUYS PICS OF ME NAKED FOR ATTENTION, LOL" are they?
Yeah, it's stupid and it's immature, but it's that thing a lot of young girls do when they first start growing into sexual beings. Teenage girls often want to test their boundaries, play with their sexuality, test the effect they have on others. They often desperately want the approval of other people. They first learn what it's like to feel sexually desired and they experiment with it, hard. Many will have complicated relationships with sex to begin with due to puritanical upbringings/societal prejudice and etc. etc. what have you. It's fucking common.
She just got severely unlucky that she happened to send it to a seriously deranged stalker and be exposed to some of the worst people imaginable in high school. People saying she deserves it don't seem to have a very good understanding of what teenage girls are actually like.
THANK YOU.
Now it's the internet's obligation to systematically destroy you.
^^^^^^^
(I'm kidding guys. I know some of you in this thread aren't very bright or don't understand women at all, but please, refrain from destroying this lady.)
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On October 14 2012 14:48 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 14:06 Sawajiri wrote:
I sent guys pics of my boobs too when I was 13/14. I had enough foresight to cut off my head to prevent these pics from ever being used for blackmail, but I did enough other stupid shit besides that to make up for it.
This isn't uncommon, at all. It's just that, if you're a guy, you probably haven't heard much about it because girls aren't going to walk up to you and say, "LOL I TOTALLY SENT GUYS PICS OF ME NAKED FOR ATTENTION, LOL" are they?
Yeah, it's stupid and it's immature, but it's that thing a lot of young girls do when they first start growing into sexual beings. Teenage girls often want to test their boundaries, play with their sexuality, test the effect they have on others. They often desperately want the approval of other people. They first learn what it's like to feel sexually desired and they experiment with it, hard. Many will have complicated relationships with sex to begin with due to puritanical upbringings/societal prejudice and etc. etc. what have you. It's fucking common.
She just got severely unlucky that she happened to send it to a seriously deranged stalker and be exposed to some of the worst people imaginable in high school. People saying she deserves it don't seem to have a very good understanding of what teenage girls are actually like. THANK YOU. Now it's the internet's obligation to systematically destroy you. ^^^^^^^ (I'm kidding guys. I know some of you in this thread aren't very bright or don't understand women at all, but please, refrain from destroying this lady.)
COME AT ME BRO(s). :D
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On October 14 2012 14:06 Sawajiri wrote:
I sent guys pics of my boobs too when I was 13/14. I had enough foresight to cut off my head to prevent these pics from ever being used for blackmail, but I did enough other stupid shit besides that to make up for it.
This isn't uncommon, at all. It's just that, if you're a guy, you probably haven't heard much about it because girls aren't going to walk up to you and say, "LOL I TOTALLY SENT GUYS PICS OF ME NAKED FOR ATTENTION, LOL" are they?
Yeah, it's stupid and it's immature, but it's that thing a lot of young girls do when they first start growing into sexual beings. Teenage girls often want to test their boundaries, play with their sexuality, test the effect they have on others. They often desperately want the approval of other people. They first learn what it's like to feel sexually desired and they experiment with it, hard. Many will have complicated relationships with sex to begin with due to puritanical upbringings/societal prejudice and etc. etc. what have you. It's fucking common.
She just got severely unlucky that she happened to send it to a seriously deranged stalker and be exposed to some of the worst people imaginable in high school. People saying she deserves it don't seem to have a very good understanding of what teenage girls are actually like.
it is common for low class women to send naked pics to guys at the age of 13
it is common for these same low class women to be ridiculed when people find out
what isn't uncommon is for someone to kill themselves when having to face the consequences of their actions
this is the entitlement of today's society
women think they can be hypersexual and amoral without any repercussions
i'll reserve my sympathy for people who are suffering due to circumstances out of their control instead of someone who killed herself over her own self-inflicted actions
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So I haven't seen anyone discuss this but why was nothing done about the guy with the picture. He was distributing child porn. That's a felony.
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On October 14 2012 12:18 fearus wrote:
Reading some of these posts, makes me lose faith in humanity.
Pretty much this.
Not that I had faith in humanity to begin with, but I've lost faith in TL, somehow. :p
Not as a whole of course !
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