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On October 15 2012 03:20 tokicheese wrote:
What your saying is is that what she did was normal. I'm not 13 year old girl but I doubt most 13 year old girls are going online and showing strangers their boobs especially with all of the education about the consequences of this now. You get bombarded in school now with stuff about this. Especially with some girl like this popping up every year where some girl kills herself over the harrassment.
The parents of the bullies and this girl are Terrible parents if all of what she claims are true. The administration at this school should be fucking gutted because try obviously are incompetent if thus obvious case of severe harassment was missed.
The guy who cheated is a total douche bag but it takes two to tango. She still had sex with a guy who she knew was dating someone. They are both equally at fault for that. I feel like their is more to the story on this part than she let on though.
I do think it is normal, yes. Which is not to say that everyone does it -- of course they don't -- but most teenage girls test their boundaries in some ways. Some do it online and some do it by wearing mini-skirts and make-up, flirting around, or posting sexy pics of themselves on their facebook. I think all of these things are done for the same reason and to the same end, usually -- to test boundaries, to toy with their awakening sexuality, to figure out the world around them and how they fit in it as a sexual being, etc. Sometimes it's also just to get attention and approval. I don't know how many of my classmates at the time were sending anyone nude pictures, but I'd say a good majority were doing at least one of those things mentioned for similar reasons why Amanda probably did it. It wasn't a bad school for troubled kids or anything, either; I went to a pretty good science middle school.
I also don't think 'education about the consequences' really helps when it comes to teenagers, at least not in any substantial way. Didn't you also have education about the dangers of alcohol and drugs, and how many kids did you know who drank or smoked cigs or joints anyway? Maybe it's extremely different where you're from, but I'm pretty sure there was literally no kid in my class left who hadn't yet had alcohol by the time we were 16.
Yes, she is at fault for sleeping with the guy who had a girlfriend. I still think he was more at fault, though. It's more morally corrupt to cheat than to facilitate cheating; if you sleep with someone who is taken, it is not exactly morally sound, but you don't owe the significant other of the person you're sleeping with anything. They do. If you cheat on someone, you violate a vow you gave to them, either explicitly or implicitly; you break no such vow if you're the 'other' person involved, although normal laws of behavior dictate that you should probably think twice about it.
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^ Saying we shouldn't educate kids more about this because they will do it anyways is just silly. Even if it only helps some kids make better decisions isn't it worth it? I mean some people still smoke knowing it will kill them but way less people smoke because of the education.
Parents need better education about this stuff to. Honestly would you have flashed if the pc was in the living room of your house? Administrators need better education about cyber bullying because apparently they can't even figure out this blatant case of brutal bullying how the he'll would they notice more subtle bullying.
I agree with pretty much everything else you said though.
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On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Just gunna leave this here
Murders will always be unavoidable. Suicides will always be avoidable. A depression and despair surrounds suicide that makes it additionally heartbreaking. Ever heard the phrase "At least they died happy"? Trying to cope through drugs... and? Sexuality isn't immortal. Drugs aren't immoral. being depressed isn't immoral and if she masturbated on cam for people so much, then what could they possibly be blackmailing her with? to do what? You have no proof for that. Both stories are tragic, the way you treat the victim in this case is disgusting.
Your judgement of her is sickening. "suicidal" no... she's DEAD. She's not suicidal anymore, she's committed suicide, you bastard, funny how you left that out just for her "summary" so there was more room for making stuff up about her evil, evil sexuality.
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looks like chris hanson didn't do his job well enough
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On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here
Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all.
Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please.
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There will always be parents that cant take care of their kids. Too bad that innocent kids take the consequences. I dont think many of the people critizising her choice and calling her stupid know how to spell to depression.
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On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please.
Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls?
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On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls?
How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important...
It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports.
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i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes...
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On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports.
I'm sorry but could you perhaps direct me to the proof that she is lying. Not saying it's not true but I just don't have the time to scour this entire thread or the internet. If the only proof is word of mouth, then I would be highly skeptical considering there are a lot of jackasses in this situation that could just say whatever they wanted.
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On October 15 2012 07:02 DigitalDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. I'm sorry but could you perhaps direct me to the proof that she is lying. Not saying it's not true but I just don't have the time to scour this entire thread or the internet. If the only proof is word of mouth, then I would be highly skeptical considering there are a lot of jackasses in this situation that could just say whatever they wanted.
Proof would be the various pictures circulating. She claimed she flashed once, then from that was blackmailed, when there are multiple photos out there which prove it wasn't a one time thing. Given their nature, you'd have to search for the proof yourself on some shaddy sites (like /b/).
Point is people are taking everything she said at face value, without even considering she could be more at fault then she claimed.
On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes...
He's just showing that a double standard exists.
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Sad, thousands of similiar stories are out there that nobody knows about so theres no any way to react before tragedy happens.
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R.I.P.
Poor thing... No one deserves that sort of thing to happen to them. Anyone who thinks she was dumb, come ON; she did something for a joke that she thought would be harmless, in front of the people she thought were her friends. Don't tell me you haven't done stupid things to impress mates.
And this is why there is no God... Unless, truly, the meek inherit the Earth, and up there in Heaven this girl has it much better...
I think we should all be damn grateful our lives haven't turned out like that :/ R.I.P.
Even if that image up there is true, that she did essentially do "sex shows" - what you gotta remember, is that possibly, if the dice had rolled differently, in another world, time and place, that could have been you. The environmental factors affecting her situation....
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On October 15 2012 07:02 DigitalDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. I'm sorry but could you perhaps direct me to the proof that she is lying. Not saying it's not true but I just don't have the time to scour this entire thread or the internet. If the only proof is word of mouth, then I would be highly skeptical considering there are a lot of jackasses in this situation that could just say whatever they wanted.
She could also have Made half the shit up that she said. Neither of us know which is why we should wait until all the facts come in. Your listening to the word of a girl who had everything to gain by making herself seem as innocent as possible. I don't trust that random unsourced picture and you shouldn't listen to Todd. Wait for the investigation to finish.
I have issues with her story because Some of the stuff she claims screams fake. If she was really beaten up on school grounds by a gang of girls they would have had charges pressed on them. If there really was a guy with child porn as his display picture on Facebook wouldn't it be shut down? If people were really texting her that they wished she had died from drinking bleach it would be all over her phone history.
If she is telling the truth about how bad it was the people who were responsible for her well being obviously were negligent as fuck and deserve to be fired
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terribly heartbreaking... if only young people could see what it's like after the hell that highschool can be.
however, that being said, teenage suicide isn't exactly breaking news. unfortunately this happens so, so, soooo very often
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On October 13 2012 04:48 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
People are brutal, the reactions in this topic included.
Could not be closer to the truth.
RIP
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She brought it on herself.
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On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Just gunna leave this here
You should know that bad things are being said about Amanda, probably from people like yourself who somehow don't understand that medias will pick up stories and run with them. That girl has 9600 likes on her Facebook (that matters why?) but most people who die in such ways are never really heard about.
Not only that little image of yours present an extremely biased portrait of the situations, I think the most disturbing is that you seem to think that it has a point or something, by depicting a little girl as "bad" for having led a pretty bad lifestyle. She was a kid. It blows my mind that people think it's fair to pass a negative judgment on a girl who consumed drugs when she was emotionally and mentally disturbed, as if it made her less of a person. Come on.
On October 15 2012 07:31 SuperSloth wrote:
She brought it on herself.
=_= You people....
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On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports.
The ONLY defense YOU, or anyone else on this board to defend the actions of these bullies, or the people that extorted or assaulted her, is by dragging her name in the mud. And comparing her to some other poor girl. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE.
THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A SMEAR CAMPAIGN.
What's next ? Are you going to explain to me that date rape doesn't count, if the girl is drunk and has a reputation for being a slut anyways? Or that if a black teenager is walking down the street with a hoodie, that is just cause for tracking and following that kid with a gun? That if a girl posts nude pictures of herself, she deserves to be harassed and bullied and followed where ever she goes?
And seriously, where's the mods?
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