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On October 15 2012 07:10 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:02 DigitalDevil wrote:On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. I'm sorry but could you perhaps direct me to the proof that she is lying. Not saying it's not true but I just don't have the time to scour this entire thread or the internet. If the only proof is word of mouth, then I would be highly skeptical considering there are a lot of jackasses in this situation that could just say whatever they wanted. Proof would be the various pictures circulating. She claimed she flashed once, then from that was blackmailed, when there are multiple photos out there which prove it wasn't a one time thing. Given their nature, you'd have to search for the proof yourself on some shaddy sites (like /b/). Point is people are taking everything she said at face value, without even considering she could be more at fault then she claimed.
I wouldn't even know where to begin searching to verify the truth. Tried some quick googlefu and I couldn't find anything that would sway my opinion against her. Again, not saying that me not finding evidence means it doesn't exist. It's that I'm yet to be convinced if I don't see any evidence. Maybe you can pm me or something.
On October 15 2012 07:19 tokicheese wrote:
She could also have Made half the shit up that she said. Neither of us know which is why we should wait until all the facts come in. Your listening to the word of a girl who had everything to gain by making herself seem as innocent as possible. I don't trust that random unsourced picture and you shouldn't listen to Todd. Wait for the investigation to finish.
I'm not absolutely convinced by anyone. It's more that I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt considering she's dead... Not that being dead necessarily grants you any special privileges but the possible circumstances leading to her death might warrant it. In this case, she claims it was due to constant harassment which is not unreasonable. In a reasonable situation, you would give the victim the benefit of the doubt, not the perpetrators. It may not be the case every time if the victim is actually a victim, but generally, it's not wrong to give the potential victim the benefit of the doubt especially when they have dealt with the consequences (her being dead) while the potential perpetrators have not. Giving the benefit of the doubt is not the same as making up your mind.
I have issues with her story because Some of the stuff she claims screams fake. If she was really beaten up on school grounds by a gang of girls they would have had charges pressed on them. If there really was a guy with child porn as his display picture on Facebook wouldn't it be shut down? If people were really texting her that they wished she had died from drinking bleach it would be all over her phone history.
If she is telling the truth about how bad it was the people who were responsible for her well being obviously were negligent as fuck and deserve to be fired
As outsiders, we probably don't have any real perspective on the matter to objectively judge the situation anyway. It could be the case that everything she said was entirely true or partially true. And if partially true, then you have to determine what is relevant. Also, there are lots of factors that could allow unlikely things to work out. Not only that but it's entirely possible that some of your issues about her story could just be premature conjectures due to the lack of details like the guy's account not being shut down (maybe it was?).
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On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports.
My question is why would it matter if she happened to be lying, and was a crack addicted prostitute? I'm not saying it's the case, but why would it matter? The fact is that she was pushed to suicide. Whether or not her poor lifestyle made it tough for her, there's no reason to pass harsh judgments on a person who obviously was defenseless to the world and had trouble dealing with her stuff. No matter her story, it's sad. And people who go out of their way to somehow try to make her look bad or something, what the hell are they all about?
That's not to say we should know the truth, but seriously, it doesn't matter. Don't fucking rail against dead kids.
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On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes...
You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority.
"Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it."
For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID.
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On October 14 2012 23:01 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 22:02 Destro wrote:
some really awful parenting. her parents should feel ashamed.
some really awful bullying. Their parents should feel ashamed.
yea on both ends of it.
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On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID.
Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds.
A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant.
What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada?
Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her.
Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world:
+ Show Spoiler +
Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same.
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Yeah, about that picture I posted seems to have fired shit up a bit I didn't make the picture and don't necessarily stand by everything it says but I was mainly looking at the amount of media coverage these 2 stories where getting compared to eachother while one is alot "more" of a victim in my opinion and gets almost no attention at all.
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On October 15 2012 08:32 Headshothank wrote:
Yeah, about that picture I posted seems to have fired shit up a bit I didn't make the picture and don't necessarily stand by everything it says but I was mainly looking at the amount of media coverage these 2 stories where getting compared to eachother while one is alot "more" of a victim in my opinion and gets almost no attention at all.
to be fair it would be more appropriate in a thread about sexism/racism in the media generally. RIP threads tend to be more for condolences than discussion.
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On October 15 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID. Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds. A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant. What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada? Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her. Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world: + Show Spoiler +Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same.
It's entirely within the realm of possibility that this girl carried fault. It's also entirely possible that it's not all her fault. If the girl carried some of the fault, then sure, there are some things to learn from her. But your post leaves out that there is also something to be learned if it turns that it wasn't entirely her fault.
Also, that photo lacks context?
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On October 15 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID. Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds. A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant. What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada? Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her. Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world: + Show Spoiler +Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same.
In a thread full of contenders, you probably win the award for stupidest post.
Also, if we eradicated every teenage girl who ever took a Facebook picture of themselves giving the middle finger, we'd probably have a population crisis on our hands.
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On October 15 2012 07:43 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. The ONLY defense YOU, or anyone else on this board to defend the actions of these bullies, or the people that extorted or assaulted her, is by dragging her name in the mud. And comparing her to some other poor girl. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A SMEAR CAMPAIGN. What's next ? Are you going to explain to me that date rape doesn't count, if the girl is drunk and has a reputation for being a slut anyways? Or that if a black teenager is walking down the street with a hoodie, that is just cause for tracking and following that kid with a gun? That if a girl posts nude pictures of herself, she deserves to be harassed and bullied and followed where ever she goes? And seriously, where's the mods?
You have no clue what your are talking about. All hes doing is pointing out a better perspective on the whole situation. There are many teen suicides due to bullying because of how the person looks but no one cares, at least not to this extent. Now we have a pretty girl thats a dirty drug abusing slut that kills herself and its national news.
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On October 15 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID. Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds. A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant. What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada? Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her. Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world: + Show Spoiler +Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same.
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH YEAH. HIGH SCHOOL IS THE REAL WORLD MAN. IT AIN'T LIKE IT WAS BACK THEN OLD MAN. WE'RE THE FUTURE, AND THE FUTURE IS HARD. SO TOUGHEN UP BUTTERCUP. OR ELSE THESE HALLWAYS WILL EAT YOU ALIVE.
I HEAR ITS TACO TUESDAY IN THE CAF' TODAY, BRO. GONNA TO STOP THIS SNACK ATTACK DEAD, SON. THAT'S HOW WE DO. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, GRANDPA???
Fuck, teenagers are dumb.
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On October 15 2012 08:40 nitram wrote:
Now we have a pretty girl thats a dirty drug abusing slut that kills herself and its national news.
Fuck, teenagers are dumb, too.
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On October 15 2012 08:40 nitram wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:43 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. The ONLY defense YOU, or anyone else on this board to defend the actions of these bullies, or the people that extorted or assaulted her, is by dragging her name in the mud. And comparing her to some other poor girl. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A SMEAR CAMPAIGN. What's next ? Are you going to explain to me that date rape doesn't count, if the girl is drunk and has a reputation for being a slut anyways? Or that if a black teenager is walking down the street with a hoodie, that is just cause for tracking and following that kid with a gun? That if a girl posts nude pictures of herself, she deserves to be harassed and bullied and followed where ever she goes? And seriously, where's the mods? You have no clue what your are talking about. All hes doing is pointing out a better perspective on the whole situation. There are many teen suicides due to bullying because of how the person looks but no one cares, at least not to this extent. Now we have a pretty girl thats a dirty drug abusing slut that kills herself and its national news.
Really... reallly... I want to tell you to kill yourself. Know why? Because unlike Amanda, who's only "crime" was to have a sexuality and try to survive with her pain by taking drugs, you're saying disgusting, heartless and sickening things about another person. How the fuck can you sit there and not realize that saying those things about another person who never hurt you is actually abhorrent and what you do with your own body is not?
@Defacer: Dude, I'm a teenager and I'm not dumb :/ otherwise, I've agreed with everything you've said.
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On October 15 2012 08:41 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 08:40 nitram wrote:
Now we have a pretty girl thats a dirty drug abusing slut that kills herself and its national news.
Fuck, teenagers are dumb, too.
You shouldn't get to riled up. Mentioned it on the first page (or second) of this thread. Many kids/teens are simply assholes, you won't talk sense into them. They either learn through age or from being on the wrong end of some bully stuff and in some cases never. That's just how it is, although I don't know about the reasons... Reading this thread basically is a pretty clear example..
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Well she did a huge mistake and instead of dealing with the consequences and talking to an authority figure right away she let everything snowball out of control. I'm sad that nobody isolated her from this situation with everything she was going through, from mutilation to attempted suicide.But tbh when you don't learn from doing the same mistakes several times it's rather pathetic. How much does it take for you to get the fuck off facebook?
In the end, everything she ever did was for attention. She craved it so much she scrolled through her fb feed and watched her old classmates post stupid bullshit instead of going outside and seeing the world for what it really is. I realize she was depressed and wish someone would have been there to push her in the right direction, but I still do not feel pity for her. American culture does this to people sadly, that's the way it is.
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On October 15 2012 08:37 DigitalDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID. Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds. A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant. What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada? Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her. Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world: + Show Spoiler +Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that this girl carried fault. It's also entirely possible that it's not all her fault. If the girl carried some of the fault, then sure, there are some things to learn from her. But your post leaves out that there is also something to be learned if it turns that it wasn't entirely her fault. Also, that photo lacks context?
The first thing that we have to examine is how did she manage the crisis of her topless photos spreading out.
She clearly got upset and went into an emotional ride.
But did she seek help for the harassment?
For ALL of the non Canadians out there, I would guarantee you that if you say something like "I hope you die in a hellhole." in a school environment, once reported, you will positively get punishment or some sort of intervention by the school's admins.
In the case of Fb comment to her wall, this further gives her the proof to solicify her case to the Police Department in which ALL parties involved will receive a suspension.
So why didn't do that when it ingrained genetically in Kindergarten period to ask help from superiors when things end up being miserable? And judging from various of her pictures floating online, she does look VERY confident in herself and have the guts to make a stand for herself with the middle finger picture and her display of lesbianism to the web (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=309950.18).
But yet she couldn't stand up on her own by simply telling on the bullies.
Not only that she didn't try to improve her image by sincerely feeling remorseful for the incident and try to expose the boy for this unfortunate event, she also further tarnished herself by sleeping around knowingly that the target have already someone else on the side.
Think about it, you caught your wife sleeping around with another man. Wouldn't it be nature to try to contravene with the third party of your relationship? That's exactly what the girlfriend of the boyfriend did, she put her in her place. So that is justifiable.
She completely have the power to turn this situation upon the boy for being a pervert and by grouping up her friends so that the boy would never get laid again for his creepy maneuver and be praised for generation to come. Despite of that, she chose to make one bad decisions after another and ultimate the most degenerate taboo of all, taking your own life.
On October 15 2012 08:39 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID. Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds. A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant. What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada? Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her. Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world: + Show Spoiler +Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same. In a thread full of contenders, you probably win the award for stupidest post. Also, if we eradicated every teenage girl who ever took a Facebook picture of themselves giving the middle finger, we'd probably have a population crisis on our hands.
Stop the generalization RIGHT NOW. You are thinking extremely one dimensional.
The key here is that the other girls who take pictures of themselves are tough as fuck.
You obviously have never went up to one of them to insult them in the face, they will fire you back like Soviet Russia in Cold War with Nuclear Missile all the way from Cuba.
I would say that those girls rules the internet and would survive extremely well in later stage of their life.
On October 15 2012 08:40 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 08:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 15 2012 07:52 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:39 turdburgler wrote:
i have no problem with the picture and it puts things in to perspective but come on. measuring these kids by number of facebook likes... You see, this highschool-law-of-the jungle mindset is what allows guys like tokicheese and Headshothank -- and the people that bullied and destoyed her -- to rationalize their judgment, actions and false sense of superiority. "Well, I'm not the one that did do something stupid. So she was asking for it." For all you zit-popping nerds out there, you may not have done something stupid, but if you think that way, YOU ARE STUPID. Its the jungle, kill or be killed. In this case, she performed both of these deeds. A jungle environment pushes the humanity to the absolutely limit for survival. This brings the best of one's potential to the maximum and creates a sturdy character for the future. The fact that people have been turning more and more sensitive in this country already spells doom for its inhabitant. What ever happen to the tough mentality of the women in the early colonization of Canada? Instead of feeling pity for this gal, we should look at her shortcomings that leads to such trauma so that NOBODY in the future even commits the same mistake twice as her. Beside she clearly don't give a fuck about the rest of the world: + Show Spoiler +Give me one reason why the world shouldn't reciprocate the same. OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH YEAH. HIGH SCHOOL IS THE REAL WORLD MAN. IT AIN'T LIKE IT WAS BACK THEN OLD MAN. WE'RE THE FUTURE, AND THE FUTURE IS HARD. SO TOUGHEN UP BUTTERCUP. OR ELSE THESE HALLWAYS WILL EAT YOU ALIVE. I HEAR ITS TACO TUESDAY IN THE CAF' TODAY, BRO. GONNA TO STOP THIS SNACK ATTACK DEAD, SON. THAT'S HOW WE DO. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, GRANDPA???Fuck, teenagers are dumb.
That's the attitude, keep it up and you won't take shit from anyone.
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On October 15 2012 08:51 Scholera wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 08:40 nitram wrote:On October 15 2012 07:43 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. The ONLY defense YOU, or anyone else on this board to defend the actions of these bullies, or the people that extorted or assaulted her, is by dragging her name in the mud. And comparing her to some other poor girl. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A SMEAR CAMPAIGN. What's next ? Are you going to explain to me that date rape doesn't count, if the girl is drunk and has a reputation for being a slut anyways? Or that if a black teenager is walking down the street with a hoodie, that is just cause for tracking and following that kid with a gun? That if a girl posts nude pictures of herself, she deserves to be harassed and bullied and followed where ever she goes? And seriously, where's the mods? You have no clue what your are talking about. All hes doing is pointing out a better perspective on the whole situation. There are many teen suicides due to bullying because of how the person looks but no one cares, at least not to this extent. Now we have a pretty girl thats a dirty drug abusing slut that kills herself and its national news. Really... reallly... I want to tell you to kill yourself. Know why? Because unlike Amanda, who's only "crime" was to have a sexuality and try to survive with her pain by taking drugs, you're saying disgusting, heartless and sickening things about another person. How the fuck can you sit there and not realize that saying those things about another person who never hurt you is actually abhorrent and what you do with your own body is not? @Defacer: Dude, I'm a teenager and I'm not dumb :/ otherwise, I've agreed with everything you've said.
Thanks ... however ...
Most teenagers like nitram have a false sense of entitlement and self-importance that allow them to past judgement on others.
Trust me. To all the high schoolers out there: nothing you believe in or have accomplished will matter in ten years. NONE of it. That's how unimportant you are, as a person, right now. You can be the star of your high school basketball team. Unless your name is Lebron James, ten years from now no one will give two-shits.
To actively destroy a young girls 'life' before it's even started is unfair and ridiculous.
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On October 15 2012 08:53 AngryMag wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 08:41 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 08:40 nitram wrote:
Now we have a pretty girl thats a dirty drug abusing slut that kills herself and its national news.
Fuck, teenagers are dumb, too. You shouldn't get to riled up. Mentioned it on the first page (or second) of this thread. Many kids/teens are simply assholes, you won't talk sense into them. They either learn through age or from being on the wrong end of some bully stuff and in some cases never. That's just how it is, although I don't know about the reasons... Reading this thread basically is a pretty clear example..
I can't help it. The fact that there is essentially a piece of child-porn in this thread (I don't care if there's little dots on it) disguised as 'a talking point' is fucking disgusting.
Again, where are the mods?
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On October 15 2012 07:47 DigitalDevil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:10 killa_robot wrote:On October 15 2012 07:02 DigitalDevil wrote:On October 15 2012 06:37 tokicheese wrote:On October 15 2012 06:26 Scholera wrote:On October 15 2012 05:46 Defacer wrote:On October 15 2012 05:14 Headshothank wrote:
Just gunna leave this here Wow, you've successfully smeared a 15 year old girl who committed suicide without changing my perspective at all. Mods, get this fucking picture off your site before I punch in my computer, please. Exactly what the fuck inspires people to run smear propaganda against dead teen girls? How exactly is it a smear campaign? The picture wasn't very nice but Todd is clearly lying about what actually happened and since people will be fucking punished for what happened to her knowing what actually happened is pretty important... It's trayvon all over again people blindly rage until the actual facts come out and the entire story changes until it doesn't even resemble the first reports. I'm sorry but could you perhaps direct me to the proof that she is lying. Not saying it's not true but I just don't have the time to scour this entire thread or the internet. If the only proof is word of mouth, then I would be highly skeptical considering there are a lot of jackasses in this situation that could just say whatever they wanted. Proof would be the various pictures circulating. She claimed she flashed once, then from that was blackmailed, when there are multiple photos out there which prove it wasn't a one time thing. Given their nature, you'd have to search for the proof yourself on some shaddy sites (like /b/). Point is people are taking everything she said at face value, without even considering she could be more at fault then she claimed. I wouldn't even know where to begin searching to verify the truth. Tried some quick googlefu and I couldn't find anything that would sway my opinion against her. Again, not saying that me not finding evidence means it doesn't exist. It's that I'm yet to be convinced if I don't see any evidence. Maybe you can pm me or something. Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 07:19 tokicheese wrote:
She could also have Made half the shit up that she said. Neither of us know which is why we should wait until all the facts come in. Your listening to the word of a girl who had everything to gain by making herself seem as innocent as possible. I don't trust that random unsourced picture and you shouldn't listen to Todd. Wait for the investigation to finish.
I'm not absolutely convinced by anyone. It's more that I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt considering she's dead... Not that being dead necessarily grants you any special privileges but the possible circumstances leading to her death might warrant it. In this case, she claims it was due to constant harassment which is not unreasonable. In a reasonable situation, you would give the victim the benefit of the doubt, not the perpetrators. It may not be the case every time if the victim is actually a victim, but generally, it's not wrong to give the potential victim the benefit of the doubt especially when they have dealt with the consequences (her being dead) while the potential perpetrators have not. Giving the benefit of the doubt is not the same as making up your mind. Show nested quote +
I have issues with her story because Some of the stuff she claims screams fake. If she was really beaten up on school grounds by a gang of girls they would have had charges pressed on them. If there really was a guy with child porn as his display picture on Facebook wouldn't it be shut down? If people were really texting her that they wished she had died from drinking bleach it would be all over her phone history.
If she is telling the truth about how bad it was the people who were responsible for her well being obviously were negligent as fuck and deserve to be fired
As outsiders, we probably don't have any real perspective on the matter to objectively judge the situation anyway. It could be the case that everything she said was entirely true or partially true. And if partially true, then you have to determine what is relevant. Also, there are lots of factors that could allow unlikely things to work out. Not only that but it's entirely possible that some of your issues about her story could just be premature conjectures due to the lack of details like the guy's account not being shut down (maybe it was?).
You would be surprised the amount of information that is attached to handles and tags that you use on a daily basis. Check out Pipl.com and see what is linked to your email address or username.
A bit of creative thinking can get you a long way when it comes to finding someone. I actually do a bit of this for a living. Combine it with some tools that anyone can get to with a credit card, you can turn up anyone (At least in the US)
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No to ALL high school out there: please choose your path correctly to what kind of person you want to end up. Study hard in school, join up a sport club. You want to gain as much smart and fitness as possible before entering the workforce. You NEVER know if you will end up using knowledge you learn even the in Middle School years for your tool as survival. You have to always constantly thinking about how the current action you are taking are affecting your life in a positive way. There are people who do well in High School and have gotten entrance in Ivy Leagues and basically their life are set. They are other people who don't put emphasis on their work and end up taking couple of extra years and will be far behind in the competition with their peers and regretted for the REST OF THEIR LIVES. But however if you find yourself extremely gifted in one specific sports of hobby, by all means, CHASE THAT DREAM OF YOURS. And even though the thing you do at the time might not be popular, you may just end up like LYH, to forever cement your name in the history book as the one that started the industry.
Don't be a bum, don't be a slut. Don't just cruise your way with drugs, drinking, and smoking.
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