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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 04 2012 06:29 GMT
#21
Btw what sort of motions will there be? Will they require any spec knowledge?
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 06:30 GMT
#22
On September 04 2012 15:26 Souma wrote:
Won't the speeches be a bit redundant then? It might be better to do two prop, two opp for the first batch then two prop, two opp for the second batch so speeches won't be as redundant and you can get more rebuttal that way.


Hmm. Good point. I'll let the first debate go as it is first, and we'll see how everything turns out. Thanks for the feedback though, may implement it in the next debate
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 06:31 GMT
#23
On September 04 2012 15:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
Btw what sort of motions will there be? Will they require any spec knowledge?


Motions won't be specific to certain countries like the economic policies in Mongolia, just some general topics and topics inspired from international headlines.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#24
Best topic: http://www.parlidebate.com/recordings.php?id=244

Possibly the most interesting debate I've ever seen :D Recommended watch.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 06:40:16
September 04 2012 06:37 GMT
#25
So, given the nature of how the speeches are going to be presented in block form, are our arguments to be critiqued more as they reflect on the teams position or the individual? What I'm getting at is that a block of 4 speeches ought to be critiqued as it reflects on an extended, thorough position, as opposed to a 2 speech segment that would necessarily contain more clash and response to the opposing viewpoint and be judged accordingly.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 06:48:37
September 04 2012 06:44 GMT
#26
I suppose if we're going to do this in block form, maybe each team should get together and split up the talking points with each person focusing on one-two points each. Redundancy would be bad for both speakers and readers. =s
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 06:46 GMT
#27
On September 04 2012 15:44 Souma wrote:
I suppose if we're going to do this in block form, maybe each team should get together and split up the talking points with each person focusing on one-two points each. Redundancy would be bad for both speakers and readers. =s


Yeah this was what I had in mind.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 04 2012 06:48 GMT
#28
Another question: Is it okay for the proposition to define the range of the motion? For instance, if the motion is, "ban child labor," can the proposition specify whether we want to ban child labor throughout the world or to ban child labor in developing countries only?
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 04 2012 06:48 GMT
#29
I also believe that blocks of 2 would be more conducive to discourse and more apparently direct back-and-forth.

On September 04 2012 15:33 Souma wrote:
Best topic: http://www.parlidebate.com/recordings.php?id=244

Possibly the most interesting debate I've ever seen :D Recommended watch.

Dang, makes me want to participate as well, that's awesome ^^ I wonder whether it would be possible for laypeople to participate in a future debate unless parli has too many confusing rules.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
September 04 2012 06:50 GMT
#30
On September 04 2012 15:48 Souma wrote:
Another question: Is it okay for the proposition to define the range of the motion? For instance, if the motion is, "ban child labor," can the proposition specify whether we want to ban child labor throughout the world or to ban child labor in developing countries only?

Given the likely uninteresting nature of a debate being argued on two different interpretations, resolution specificity should be made crystal clear.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 04 2012 06:52 GMT
#31
Yeah, I was just thinking if the proposition was allowed to define the terms then we'd just PM the opposition members with the updated motion.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 06:54 GMT
#32
On September 04 2012 15:52 Souma wrote:
Yeah, I was just thinking if the proposition was allowed to define the terms then we'd just PM the opposition members with the updated motion.


Hmm yes. I'll include this in the briefing when teams are settled.
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
September 04 2012 06:57 GMT
#33
Man this sounds fun but I don't have time for research or preparation. I really want to read the final result though, will probably be very well done.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 04 2012 06:59 GMT
#34
This might be a lot more convenient if all the debaters + Azera were to get into an IRC channel, so we wouldn't have to mass PM each other haha.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 07:01 GMT
#35
On September 04 2012 15:59 Souma wrote:
This might be a lot more convenient if all the debaters + Azera were to get into an IRC channel, so we wouldn't have to mass PM each other haha.


We could use IRC for quick fire!
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
September 04 2012 07:04 GMT
#36
On September 04 2012 16:01 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:59 Souma wrote:
This might be a lot more convenient if all the debaters + Azera were to get into an IRC channel, so we wouldn't have to mass PM each other haha.


We could use IRC for quick fire!


That would actually be an awesome idea. So like right after the posts go up, everyone goes into the IRC for quickfire?
Что?
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 07:05 GMT
#37
On September 04 2012 16:04 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 16:01 Azera wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:59 Souma wrote:
This might be a lot more convenient if all the debaters + Azera were to get into an IRC channel, so we wouldn't have to mass PM each other haha.


We could use IRC for quick fire!


That would actually be an awesome idea. So like right after the posts go up, everyone goes into the IRC for quickfire?


Yes that could work, maybe between the first and second set of speeches?
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 04 2012 07:08 GMT
#38
Only problem is it would be hard to get all nine people online at the same time for that, and too many people chatting at the same time would be chaos anyway. If we do quick fire it should probably be 1 on 1.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 04 2012 07:08 GMT
#39
On September 04 2012 16:08 Souma wrote:
Only problem is it would be hard to get all nine people online at the same time for that, and too many people chatting at the same time would be chaos anyway. If we do quick fire it should probably be 1 on 1.


2 on 2?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 04 2012 07:09 GMT
#40
On September 04 2012 16:08 Souma wrote:
Only problem is it would be hard to get all nine people online at the same time for that, and too many people chatting at the same time would be chaos anyway. If we do quick fire it should probably be 1 on 1.


The getting everyone on at once thing is actually a non-trivial problem, even if we end up using just people in PST through EST. People have work and school schedules that can get in the way.
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