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googolplex
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 05:21:44
August 28 2012 05:15 GMT
#1
Apple has recently won its proxy war with Google and Andriod through its internatinal legal dispute with Samsung.

But the empire strikes back. And it wants to hit directly home. Google has filed suit directly against Apple in the U.S. International Trade Commission. The claim is that Apple's iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch infringe seven of the roughly 17,000 patents Google inherited when it bought Motorola Mobility just over a year ago.

We would like to settle these patent matters," said a spokesperson for Google's Motorola division, "but Apple's unwillingness to work out a license leaves us little choice but to defend ourselves and our engineers' innovations.

The patents in question involve location reminders, e-mail notifications, video playback and Siri, and were deemed serious enough to demand an import ban against nearly every iOS product Apple makes.

The Google comeback has far more dangerous implication than the one won by Apple against Samsung, The infringement is for non-standard essential patents, whoch means that Google filed a case for a patent/patents that courts cannot legally force companies to patent, meaning that if they win this case, Apple could be forced to completely stop using the patent in their devices.

And so begine the "themonuclear war" that Steve Jobs promised. Or should it have been "technonuclear".



Related articles
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444508504577595824047184552.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-17/google-s-motorola-files-new-patent-case-against-apple-at-itc.html
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/17/google-files-new-patent-lawsuit-against-apple-seeks-to-block-iphone-ipad-mac-imports-to-u-s/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/21/and-now-google-sues-apple/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/18/the-empire-strike-back-googles-motorola-files-patent-suit-against-apple-to-block-u-s-imports
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
August 28 2012 05:18 GMT
#2
Patent law is an amazing thing. I cannot believe apple actually went through with their lawsuit, they had to know something like this was going to happen lol. Basically, this can happen in any industry and it is essentially agreed upon that if the product isnt extremely egregious you don't go after each other.

IBM, Mercedes, etc could go after tons of people, but then were just be countersuits and everyone involved would be in litigation for decades.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 28 2012 05:19 GMT
#3
Holy shit this is epic. Gonna be following this war closely.
jusTjoshin
Profile Joined April 2012
United States66 Posts
August 28 2012 05:20 GMT
#4
If they didn't see something like this coming..
Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
August 28 2012 05:20 GMT
#5
*grabs popcorn*

I hope copyright law changes
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12703 Posts
August 28 2012 05:21 GMT
#6
wow
I thought the whole google bought motorola stuff is just to show Apple that if he starts a war, both will take huge losses and so both side won't do anything.
I guess even google didn't see this coming
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 28 2012 05:21 GMT
#7
SAMSUNG WILL BE AVENGED
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 28 2012 05:21 GMT
#8
Idk why, but im very happy for this. Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
Skol
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
August 28 2012 05:23 GMT
#9
I don't have too much stake in which side wins but it's kinda funny how so many people go around blessing Apple as "pioneers" and "innovators".
Terrix
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany305 Posts
August 28 2012 05:24 GMT
#10
This seems awesome. If this goes through does that mean no importation of Ipods Iphones and the like? That's be awesome xD
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8250 Posts
August 28 2012 05:27 GMT
#11
Karma's a bitch.

Lets hope apple loses so badly they're forced to learn from it (don't be a dick).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 28 2012 05:28 GMT
#12
On August 28 2012 14:21 FinestHour wrote:
SAMSUNG WILL BE AVENGED


Unless the Judge and Jury have iPhone's.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 28 2012 05:30 GMT
#13
REVENGE SUE, FUCK YEAH!!!
Brood War loyalist
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 28 2012 05:30 GMT
#14
world war 3?
starleague forever
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 28 2012 05:31 GMT
#15
IMO, Apple won largely because it was an American company vs. a Korean company on American soil.

Google vs. Apple is going to be pretty different.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
robjapan
Profile Joined April 2011
Japan104 Posts
August 28 2012 05:32 GMT
#16
Whoever at Apple decided that this whole legal thing was a good idea is a complete and utter moron of the highest degree.

Think of all the the things that TV's have in common, red button to remotely switch the tv off, a rectangular shaped remote device to control the tv, a red/green light that indicates the TVs current status... etc etc etc

All of this legal stuff is 100% prime, raw, undiluted BULL SHIT.
Cheese is only cheese when you lose, when you win it's a valid tactic
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
August 28 2012 05:33 GMT
#17
Cool.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 05:36:33
August 28 2012 05:33 GMT
#18
This is going to be a fun phase to watch,made me think about john carmacks quote on patents.


"The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying."


Well, it's really sad, but then companies need to make money somehow, and r&d is not cheap.

Anyway lets see if google/samsung can get some ground back.

Somehow due to this legal war it feels like apple lost a lot more face. But dont think that affects the less tech savvy crowd.
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
August 28 2012 05:34 GMT
#19
On August 28 2012 14:15 googolplex wrote:
Apple has recently won its proxy war with Google and Andriod through its internatinal legal dispute with Samsung.

But the empire strikes back. And it wants to hit directly home. Google has filed suit directly against Apple in the U.S. International Trade Commission. The claim is that Apple's iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch infringe seven of the roughly 17,000 patents Google inherited when it bought Motorola Mobility just over a year ago.

Show nested quote +
We would like to settle these patent matters," said a spokesperson for Google's Motorola division, "but Apple's unwillingness to work out a license leaves us little choice but to defend ourselves and our engineers' innovations.

The patents in question involve location reminders, e-mail notifications, video playback and Siri, and were deemed serious enough to demand an import ban against nearly every iOS product Apple makes.

The Google comeback has far more dangerous implication than the one won by Apple against Samsung, The infringement is for non-standard essential patents, whoch means that Google filed a case for a patent/patents that courts cannot legally force companies to patent, meaning that if they win this case, Apple could be forced to completely stop using the patent in their devices.

And so begine the "themonuclear war" that Steve Jobs promised. Or should it have been "technonuclear".



Related articles
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444508504577595824047184552.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-17/google-s-motorola-files-new-patent-case-against-apple-at-itc.html
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/17/google-files-new-patent-lawsuit-against-apple-seeks-to-block-iphone-ipad-mac-imports-to-u-s/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/21/and-now-google-sues-apple/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/18/the-empire-strike-back-googles-motorola-files-patent-suit-against-apple-to-block-u-s-imports

Ah, part in bold made me burst out laughing. This should be good, hopefully Google wins big. Has their been any new developments? A lot of these articles are a few days old, unless I missed something.
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BreakerD
Profile Joined March 2010
United States159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 05:40:29
August 28 2012 05:36 GMT
#20
Hell imma make this topic epic with this.............Samsung (Johnny, Liu, Sonya), Google (Raiden), Seng Shun (Apple)



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