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Keep Nation bragging and the political debate out. |
Also, hopefully this can inspire some younger people out there to pursue a career in a STEM major vs some over-graduated liberal arts stuff. I am NOT saying those majors are useless, just that we graduate way more students in them than there are jobs.
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Congratulations Nasa, another extraordinary achievement.
Can't think of a better way to start a monday! :D
Oh and I'm already loving the tweets:
Curiosity Rover @MarsCuriosity
"I'm safely on the surface of Mars. GALE CRATER I AM IN YOU!!! #MSL"
"No photo or it didn't happen? Well lookee here, I'm casting a shadow on the ground in Mars' Gale crater #MSL"
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Will the news conference be on the stream?
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Rover JUST landed on mars and a couple of minutes later us common folk are already looking at the pictures online. Such a crazy time to be living in, truly the age of information.
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Also worth noting that the failures of the Yinghuo-1 & Fobos-Grunt the Mars Science Laboratory is the only post twin rovers on Mars, if it had failed Opportunity would be the only rover on the planet and it has been there, and is still active, since 2004. Most of us don't have Cars that old.
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Nasa should totally show some ads to raise some party money.
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On August 06 2012 14:58 Medrea wrote:
Now we just need to find the Prothean Beacon.
This will give us the information we need to travel fast across the soloar system to the Charon moon of pluto, which we will then find is actually a huge teleportation device that will let us take our place amongst the galactic community.
Suddenly, Reapers.
And Star Child.
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On August 06 2012 14:54 Sikly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:49 S:klogW wrote:On August 06 2012 14:45 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:43 enemy2010 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:42 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:41 ZaplinG wrote:
so all this for a couple of blurry pics? yup, the only reason we landed this rover was so it could take a couple of blurry pics within 30 secs of landing. After that we cut off all communications. ....financed by YOUR taxes! Congrats!!  it would still be totally worth it. I'd rather pay for some exploration than for a tank that may or may not accidentally destroy someone's home in the middle east. What about for education and healthcare? I am excited as anyone in the Command room about this, but I feel there is not much significant knowledge we can gain with this doing this now. Perhaps a decade or so after when technology is more advanced then it would be more justifiable. But I'm a science junkie, so anything for science! Technology NEVER works like this. If everyone waited a decade for technology to get better than technology would never get better. Besides, if you wait 10 years than you'll have to wait another 10 years to wait another 10 years to...This promotes education. This may excite young kids to want to go work for NASA, which could influence education far more than almost anything else could. It also does help the economy. The people that worked for NASA are part of the economy. The people that built the parts. They bought the metal from people, the cameras(or their parts) from people, the programmers, everything was a part of the economy. The guy currently speaking is actually putting it very well. This is needed. When we put dreaming on hold than the world truly becomes a sad place to live.
Strawman.
Answer this. What technology/knowledge do we expect to gain from Curiosity that we do not have with Opportunity and other recent Mars missions. There may be a lot, but not something that can change the course of history, like the moon landing etc. Imagine if we have
Dreaming? All you NDG Tyson fans are arguing this on an emotional viewpoint. There is a practical consideration to space missions, and all I'm saying is that with better technology, we can delpoy more cost-efficient mission where the benefits are enhanced by the available technology.
But like I said earlier, I'm very happy about this only because I'm happy about everything science!
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On August 06 2012 14:59 RedDeckWins wrote:
Also, hopefully this can inspire some younger people out there to pursue a career in a STEM major vs some over-graduated liberal arts stuff. I am NOT saying those majors are useless, just that we graduate way more students in them than there are jobs.
Well if people that study liberal arts had the potential to be a space engineer I'd agree but it requires a bit more than just being inspired by it 
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Psyched to see more pics in the coming days. Does anybody know where exactly the rover landed, how close it was to target?
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Since it's a temp unit that job is to mine for minerals (to study), the comparisons to a MULE aren't too crazy.
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On August 06 2012 15:02 S:klogW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:54 Sikly wrote:On August 06 2012 14:49 S:klogW wrote:On August 06 2012 14:45 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:43 enemy2010 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:42 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:41 ZaplinG wrote:
so all this for a couple of blurry pics? yup, the only reason we landed this rover was so it could take a couple of blurry pics within 30 secs of landing. After that we cut off all communications. ....financed by YOUR taxes! Congrats!! it would still be totally worth it. I'd rather pay for some exploration than for a tank that may or may not accidentally destroy someone's home in the middle east. What about for education and healthcare? I am excited as anyone in the Command room about this, but I feel there is not much significant knowledge we can gain with this doing this now. Perhaps a decade or so after when technology is more advanced then it would be more justifiable. But I'm a science junkie, so anything for science! Technology NEVER works like this. If everyone waited a decade for technology to get better than technology would never get better. Besides, if you wait 10 years than you'll have to wait another 10 years to wait another 10 years to...This promotes education. This may excite young kids to want to go work for NASA, which could influence education far more than almost anything else could. It also does help the economy. The people that worked for NASA are part of the economy. The people that built the parts. They bought the metal from people, the cameras(or their parts) from people, the programmers, everything was a part of the economy. The guy currently speaking is actually putting it very well. This is needed. When we put dreaming on hold than the world truly becomes a sad place to live. Strawman. Answer this. What technology/knowledge do we expect to gain from Curiosity that we do not have with Opportunity and other recent Mars missions. There may be a lot, but not something that can change the course of history, like the moon landing etc. Imagine if we have Dreaming? All you NDG Tyson fans are arguing this on an emotional viewpoint. There is a practical consideration to space missions, and all I'm saying is that with better technology, we can delpoy more cost-efficient mission where the benefits are enhanced by the available technology. But like I said earlier, I'm very happy about this only because I'm happy about everything science!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Science_Laboratory#Instruments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Exploration_Rover#Scientific_instrumentation
Opportunity is over 8 years old and won't last forever.
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On August 06 2012 15:02 ~ava wrote:
Psyched to see more pics in the coming days. Does anybody know where exactly the rover landed, how close it was to target?
"within spitting distance" of the projected target... as for the exact location, I cannot tell you that
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This is the real mars PIC
![[image loading]](https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/551091_10152013157770078_1248162667_n.jpg)
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On August 06 2012 15:02 S:klogW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:54 Sikly wrote:On August 06 2012 14:49 S:klogW wrote:On August 06 2012 14:45 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:43 enemy2010 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:42 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:41 ZaplinG wrote:
so all this for a couple of blurry pics? yup, the only reason we landed this rover was so it could take a couple of blurry pics within 30 secs of landing. After that we cut off all communications. ....financed by YOUR taxes! Congrats!! it would still be totally worth it. I'd rather pay for some exploration than for a tank that may or may not accidentally destroy someone's home in the middle east. What about for education and healthcare? I am excited as anyone in the Command room about this, but I feel there is not much significant knowledge we can gain with this doing this now. Perhaps a decade or so after when technology is more advanced then it would be more justifiable. But I'm a science junkie, so anything for science! Technology NEVER works like this. If everyone waited a decade for technology to get better than technology would never get better. Besides, if you wait 10 years than you'll have to wait another 10 years to wait another 10 years to...This promotes education. This may excite young kids to want to go work for NASA, which could influence education far more than almost anything else could. It also does help the economy. The people that worked for NASA are part of the economy. The people that built the parts. They bought the metal from people, the cameras(or their parts) from people, the programmers, everything was a part of the economy. The guy currently speaking is actually putting it very well. This is needed. When we put dreaming on hold than the world truly becomes a sad place to live. Strawman. Answer this. What technology/knowledge do we expect to gain from Curiosity that we do not have with Opportunity and other recent Mars missions. There may be a lot, but not something that can change the course of history, like the moon landing etc. But like I said earlier, I'm very happy about this only because I'm happy about everything science!
This is the first rover that has the tools + location to actually search for fossils of microorganisms, which spirit and opportunity didn't have. Obvious to anyone who has read about the project.
To answer your question: what is bigger than finding actual proof of living things on other planets? It would fundamentally change the way humans look at ourselves and space and would likely be a huge boon for space advancement.
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On August 06 2012 15:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 15:02 S:klogW wrote:On August 06 2012 14:54 Sikly wrote:On August 06 2012 14:49 S:klogW wrote:On August 06 2012 14:45 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:43 enemy2010 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:42 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:41 ZaplinG wrote:
so all this for a couple of blurry pics? yup, the only reason we landed this rover was so it could take a couple of blurry pics within 30 secs of landing. After that we cut off all communications. ....financed by YOUR taxes! Congrats!! it would still be totally worth it. I'd rather pay for some exploration than for a tank that may or may not accidentally destroy someone's home in the middle east. What about for education and healthcare? I am excited as anyone in the Command room about this, but I feel there is not much significant knowledge we can gain with this doing this now. Perhaps a decade or so after when technology is more advanced then it would be more justifiable. But I'm a science junkie, so anything for science! Technology NEVER works like this. If everyone waited a decade for technology to get better than technology would never get better. Besides, if you wait 10 years than you'll have to wait another 10 years to wait another 10 years to...This promotes education. This may excite young kids to want to go work for NASA, which could influence education far more than almost anything else could. It also does help the economy. The people that worked for NASA are part of the economy. The people that built the parts. They bought the metal from people, the cameras(or their parts) from people, the programmers, everything was a part of the economy. The guy currently speaking is actually putting it very well. This is needed. When we put dreaming on hold than the world truly becomes a sad place to live. Strawman. Answer this. What technology/knowledge do we expect to gain from Curiosity that we do not have with Opportunity and other recent Mars missions. There may be a lot, but not something that can change the course of history, like the moon landing etc. Imagine if we have Dreaming? All you NDG Tyson fans are arguing this on an emotional viewpoint. There is a practical consideration to space missions, and all I'm saying is that with better technology, we can delpoy more cost-efficient mission where the benefits are enhanced by the available technology. But like I said earlier, I'm very happy about this only because I'm happy about everything science! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Science_Laboratory#InstrumentsOpportunity is over 8 years old and won't last forever.
Yes a wiki source!
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is a useless project and that we wait forever until the next Mars mission. Only that there is a economic/practical aspect that we have to consider.
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On August 06 2012 15:02 S:klogW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:54 Sikly wrote:On August 06 2012 14:49 S:klogW wrote:On August 06 2012 14:45 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:43 enemy2010 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:42 Tewks44 wrote:On August 06 2012 14:41 ZaplinG wrote:
so all this for a couple of blurry pics? yup, the only reason we landed this rover was so it could take a couple of blurry pics within 30 secs of landing. After that we cut off all communications. ....financed by YOUR taxes! Congrats!! it would still be totally worth it. I'd rather pay for some exploration than for a tank that may or may not accidentally destroy someone's home in the middle east. What about for education and healthcare? I am excited as anyone in the Command room about this, but I feel there is not much significant knowledge we can gain with this doing this now. Perhaps a decade or so after when technology is more advanced then it would be more justifiable. But I'm a science junkie, so anything for science! Technology NEVER works like this. If everyone waited a decade for technology to get better than technology would never get better. Besides, if you wait 10 years than you'll have to wait another 10 years to wait another 10 years to...This promotes education. This may excite young kids to want to go work for NASA, which could influence education far more than almost anything else could. It also does help the economy. The people that worked for NASA are part of the economy. The people that built the parts. They bought the metal from people, the cameras(or their parts) from people, the programmers, everything was a part of the economy. The guy currently speaking is actually putting it very well. This is needed. When we put dreaming on hold than the world truly becomes a sad place to live. What technology/knowledge do we expect to gain from Curiosity that we do not have with Opportunity and other recent Mars missions.
For example the landing itself proves its a method that works. I don't know about you but having proof that a theoritical thing, actually works, is part of technology advancement.
As for knowledge, its the purpose of the whole mission post landing.
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