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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
Perhaps you could make an "e-sports Olympics" of some kind, but looking at how WCG turned out I don't hold out much hope on that front either. Just keep watching the leagues they already have in whatever game you like to watch people. edit: And I'd rather see bowling than Brood War too | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
SC:BW for sure. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:06 StorkHwaiting wrote: I don't understand your logic. Working one's thumb and hands over a bow with excellent hand eye coordination is called archery. It's in the Olympics. Does that deserve a spot at the pinnacle of human physical prowess? Archery isn't the most physically athletic sport, but it is more directly dexterous than gaming. The finesse required to place an arrow at long range, taking wind into account, requires devotion and practice. There are more subtleties there than pushing the right keyboard/mouse buttons at the right time. Besides that, it's also one of the most universal and historical sports. Equastrian events are kind of borderline, imo. The horse should get the medal. I wouldn't be sad if they left the Olympics. But video games will never be in the Olympics. It just feels insulting to the whole tradition. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
I don't see esports making it into the Olympics. | ||
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:11 Praetorial wrote: Do you have any concept of how much strength it takes to draw a bow? Archers need incredibly strong arm muscles to do what they do. I lift regularly, and it would be insanely difficult for me to draw one of the bows being used at the Olympics. Yes, I agree. So if SC2 players had to play with weights on their hands, it would count. Gotcha. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:14 Hnnngg wrote: So if SC2 players had to play with weights on their hands, it would count. Gotcha. ...and they don't, so I'm not sure where you're going. Starcraft 2 is not, and was never meant to be a physically demanding sport. | ||
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:36 llamasrule1214 wrote: Eh, while this is a interesting idea, i feel like its kinda disregarding the tradition of the Olympics, physical competition among the best in the world, and E-Sports doesn't really have that feeling. Being a high level swimmer myself, I know from a first-hand POV that the work ethic needed to be even remotely OK at any sport is ridicioulous, both mentally and physcially, one must push themselves, but E-Sports like sc2 doesn't have the physical component. The Olympics, imo, should be a place of the world's physical best only. just my 2 very biased cents. I too am a swimmer, and I too agree... to a certain extent. SC2 absolutely has a physical component, ESPECIALLY at the best of the best level. I think training to having incredible hand-eye coordination, hand speed, physical multitasking required to be mechanically on par with someone like Flash may not seem like it would take as much work as it would take to make the Olympics in a sport as brutally, physically rigorous as swimming, but I think that they both would be rigorous, in different ways, but still tough either way. And that doesn't even get into the realm where Starcraft is truly rigorous, THE MIND. No Olympic sport has the mental requirements to "even be OK" at it like Starcraft does. As a swimmer, I believe that it is swimming that is the hardest sport physically to be at a world class level at, or even just competitive at a region/national level, but there are NO tactics. The mental aspect of gearing yourself up to perform, of maintaining focus through training and through your actual race are nothing to scoff at, it is certainly a feat to have the mental strength to pull that off, but I would argue that it has nothing on the mental aspects of Starcraft. I believe that it is the MENTAL aspect of Starcraft that should be evaluated when looking at it in comparison to other sports (even though, as I said above, the physical aspect is only missing when looking at the game expecting to see strength, and power, not finesse, speed, and endurance). So if the IOC ever opens up to mental competition, Starcraft belongs just as much as swimming or running belong as feats of physical prowess. Or maybe it shouldn't get put into the Olympics because no one but South Korea would ever win  | ||
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Weebem-Na
United States221 Posts
EDIT: actually I'd like to change my vote to none of the above... yet. | ||
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renkin
France249 Posts
How could you not want Starcraft ( bw or 2 ) being categorized as a Olympic sport ? If you want the scene to grow and E-sport going more mainstream, I can't think of any better way to do this. | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:14 Zephirdd wrote: I'd rather see a eletronic Olympics being held kinda like Winter olympics or something. a 4 year tournament with MANY esports, like EVOgames+Dota2+LoL+SC2+(idk other games LOL) I don't see esports making it into the Olympics. Exactly! Sports take place in the world around us, eSports take place in a computer and on a monitor. They aren't the same thing. It would be awesome if eSports had it's own olympic like even't. Now that would be a true milestone. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
For one, traditional sport transcend generations while ESPORTS are just fads. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:19 renkin wrote: I don't understand you guys. How could you not want Starcraft ( bw or 2 ) being categorized as a Olympic sport ? If you want the scene to grow and E-sport going more mainstream, I can't think of any better way to do this. I want Esports to stay where it should be-at electronic competitions. I do not want the Olympics, the pinnacle of human physical strength, endurance, and skill, to include video games that are confusing to some people, uninteresting, and not unique to the competitor. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:19 renkin wrote: I don't understand you guys. How could you not want Starcraft ( bw or 2 ) being categorized as a Olympic sport ? If you want the scene to grow and E-sport going more mainstream, I can't think of any better way to do this. Because i have respect for the Olympics : / | ||
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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k!llua
Australia895 Posts
There is a physical component but it's dexterity, not strength. That's the main difference between Olympic sports really; a physical component that has to be refined and tuned and practiced constantly, whether it be out and out strength in weightlifting, the precise execution and flexibility of diving or gymnastics or perhaps the stamina and endurance required in soccer, basketball, marathons, etc. It's not really an appropriate Olympic sport - but then as more generations of people accept gaming, as we've seen over the last two decades, opinions of this will change. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:12 Loanshark wrote: I have to add: once a game is in, where do we draw the line? If we do put in LoL and SC2, then I would most respectfully request that Dota2 and Brood War be also added. And then what about fighting games? Do we put them in? Turn based strategy games? Should not Counter Strike 1.6 also be granted a spot? And then there's the deal with the actual physical requirements of many of these games, and the fact that many spectators and other athletes are not going to take them seriously. Perhaps you could make an "e-sports Olympics" of some kind, but looking at how WCG turned out I don't hold out much hope on that front either. Just keep watching the leagues they already have in whatever game you like to watch people. edit: And I'd rather see bowling than Brood War too Ah excellent point. As we all know, every sport that's ever been concieved has automatically been introduced as part of the olympics, so naturally it follows that this would be the case for games as well. | ||
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Dinsdale
Norway57 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9714 Posts
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Schlootle
United States54 Posts
On August 03 2012 07:36 Vestrel wrote: That reporter is so quick to be dismissive. "That's sad." is her first reaction Really? She has no idea. ..Actually she's one of those people who bash badminton and she works for Fox News so I guess I'm not really surprised Sending angry tweets brb Megan Kelly and Fox News for ya right there! I do recall there being studies that have shown people who solely get their news from Fox have lower IQs than say CNN or other major news networks. Although that may have been a joke. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:25 hifriend wrote: So I just learned that sc2 apparently doesn't have a physical component. Am I the only one finding myself amazed at the fact that despite this being the case, lots of pros are suffering from carpal tunnel and other injuries caused by physical strain on their bodies? Astounding. And then the vast majority of players who don't suffer from them. Bad posture while playing man. | ||
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