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On July 22 2012 01:42 shadowboxer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 01:36 DoubleReed wrote:On July 22 2012 00:22 Okiesmokie wrote:On July 21 2012 23:42 DoubleReed wrote:On July 21 2012 23:23 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On July 21 2012 22:44 Cutlery wrote:On July 21 2012 00:29 jdseemoreglass wrote:On July 21 2012 00:28 Cutlery wrote:
I hope the survivng victims have health insurance?? Why, you think the ambulance is going to ask for their insurance card before they treat the gunshots? No, but it would suck to have been shot and deal with that, and on top of everything know that their lives will be pretty much changed forever because they'll have to spend the rest of it to pay that one bill. God forbid any tax money went to help victims of accidents. the hospital bills will be paid by the cinema, i would be willing to bet money on it edit - and/or concerned outsiders The cinema? How is the cinema culpable at all? Because they didn't have the proper security to prevent someone from walking in the back door to the theater? I really don't understand why theaters don't have increased security for midnight screenings of big movies. ...does anyone expect a theater to be able to have that kind of security? It's a theater. As far as someone walking in the back door of the theater, all that theaters would worry about it people watching the movie without paying. Which would be completely up to the theater whether or not they spend money to enforce it. Because somehow theaters don't have the money to hire legitimate security guards? My local grocery store has armed security guards and nothings ever happened there. Why is it so appaling for a theater to have them?
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Are you trolling? Nothing ever happens in grocery stores? Nothing ever happens in theaters either! It's not like this is a common occurrence. If the shooter had picked a grocery store it's not like your security guards would have done much. I just don't understand how the theater could be in any way held to any degree of culpability.
No one expects theaters to have real security or for there to be any demand for it. If anything it would frighten me more if we had it.
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The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet.
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On July 22 2012 03:21 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:05 Firebolt145 wrote:On July 22 2012 02:23 BlackJack wrote:On July 22 2012 01:42 M7Jagger wrote:On July 22 2012 01:36 HellRoxYa wrote:On July 22 2012 01:16 M7Jagger wrote:
How come all these things always take place in america? They don't, but it's a big country. Really big country. So is Canada, but I don't hear about any school shootings in Canada. One of the victims of this shooting survived a mall shooting in Canada not even 2 months ago Fuck, I read that. She made a blog post about how narrowly she avoided that last shooting. And then she died from this one. Fuck. Yep... Definitely not the luckiest person.
Holy wat the ......
That is soooooo terrible. I'm not even sure how I'm suppose to feel if that was true.
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On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet.
would you mind killing him yourself?
would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man?
do you think it will prevent something like this happening again?
why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts.
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I cannot begin to fathom what is going on in this guy's mind. I doubt he was targeting anyone in particular in the theater. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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On July 22 2012 03:35 Hemling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet. would you mind killing him yourself? would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man? do you think it will prevent something like this happening again? why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts.
You mean send him to a mental hospital? Lol dont belive some people.
This guy deserves to die, end of. Wish we had death penalty in the UK for situations like this.
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On July 22 2012 03:35 Hemling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet. would you mind killing him yourself? would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man? do you think it will prevent something like this happening again? why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts.
this is a pretty trollish post imo, but:
i wouldn't mind throwing the switch, no.
would i mind getting executed? are you serious? of course i would mind getting executed for performing a legal execution...
yes.
meh, we can study other people's minds... (actually that just sounds weird, i don't like the whole "lets do science experiments on people!" thing)
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On July 22 2012 03:22 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 01:42 shadowboxer wrote:On July 22 2012 01:36 DoubleReed wrote:On July 22 2012 00:22 Okiesmokie wrote:On July 21 2012 23:42 DoubleReed wrote:On July 21 2012 23:23 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:On July 21 2012 22:44 Cutlery wrote:On July 21 2012 00:29 jdseemoreglass wrote:On July 21 2012 00:28 Cutlery wrote:
I hope the survivng victims have health insurance?? Why, you think the ambulance is going to ask for their insurance card before they treat the gunshots? No, but it would suck to have been shot and deal with that, and on top of everything know that their lives will be pretty much changed forever because they'll have to spend the rest of it to pay that one bill. God forbid any tax money went to help victims of accidents. the hospital bills will be paid by the cinema, i would be willing to bet money on it edit - and/or concerned outsiders The cinema? How is the cinema culpable at all? Because they didn't have the proper security to prevent someone from walking in the back door to the theater? I really don't understand why theaters don't have increased security for midnight screenings of big movies. ...does anyone expect a theater to be able to have that kind of security? It's a theater. As far as someone walking in the back door of the theater, all that theaters would worry about it people watching the movie without paying. Which would be completely up to the theater whether or not they spend money to enforce it. Because somehow theaters don't have the money to hire legitimate security guards? My local grocery store has armed security guards and nothings ever happened there. Why is it so appaling for a theater to have them? ??? Are you trolling? Nothing ever happens in grocery stores? Nothing ever happens in theaters either! It's not like this is a common occurrence. If the shooter had picked a grocery store it's not like your security guards would have done much. I just don't understand how the theater could be in any way held to any degree of culpability. No one expects theaters to have real security or for there to be any demand for it. If anything it would frighten me more if we had it.
As I mentioned earlier, if this theater had experienced a series of criminal events that threatened the safety of its patrons and still failed to implement any reasonable security measures, then the theater would be held culpable under Colorado law. The case that imposed this rule concerned a Taco Bell.
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i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again.
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On July 22 2012 03:42 Hemling wrote:
i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again.
You kind of lose the right to live when you mass murder people.
Probaly wouldnt stop it happening again (i know what would though but wont talk about it here) but if people like him are getting sent to mental hospitals instead of having the death penalty, other psyco's could be more likely to think about something similier knowing they can get away with it.
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On July 22 2012 03:42 Hemling wrote:
i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again.
well... society would give us that right. and i have yet to see any evidence that the criminals who fight tooth and nail to stay their executions are not afraid of those executions. when people are afraid of something, they are less likely to do the thing that results in that something, the definition of a deterrent.
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On July 22 2012 03:35 Hemling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet. would you mind killing him yourself? would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man? do you think it will prevent something like this happening again? why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts.
Yes lock him up so he can deprive taxes.. There are better things that could be done with the money. I am a pacifist and all that but this guy definetally deserves the death switch. The only alternative would be to put these people who don't belong in modern society and let them live by their own facilities in an area that is neglected from our society. And once there they can do w/e tha fucks they want. I would suggest some island far up cold.
On July 22 2012 03:56 cz wrote:
Give him his fair trial then execute him once convicted.
In a trial away from public, we wouldn't want him to preach his message and engage with likeminded individuals.
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On July 22 2012 03:46 Reaps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:42 Hemling wrote:
i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again. You kind of lose the right to live when you mass murder people. Probaly wouldnt stop it happening again (i know what would though but wont talk about it here) but if people like him are getting sent to mental hospitals instead of having the death penalty, other psyco's could be more likely to think about something similier knowing they can get away with it.
I dont think this will stop psychos, but his execution may be considered justice for the victims.
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On July 22 2012 03:50 Goozen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:46 Reaps wrote:On July 22 2012 03:42 Hemling wrote:
i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again. You kind of lose the right to live when you mass murder people. Probaly wouldnt stop it happening again (i know what would though but wont talk about it here) but if people like him are getting sent to mental hospitals instead of having the death penalty, other psyco's could be more likely to think about something similier knowing they can get away with it. I dont think this will stop psychos, but his execution may be consecrated justice for the victims.
Yeah that too of course, at least it will give their family's a tiny bit of piece.
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On July 22 2012 03:35 Hemling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet. would you mind killing him yourself? would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man? do you think it will prevent something like this happening again? why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts.
Yes! More people in jails! Not like they are overflowing already.
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Give him his fair trial then execute him once convicted. No doubt he'll be sent to a mental hospital though and get out after a few years for good behavior and "full recovery."
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On July 22 2012 03:47 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:42 Hemling wrote:
i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again. well... society would give us that right. and i have yet to see any evidence that the criminals who fight tooth and nail to stay their executions are not afraid of those executions. when people are afraid of something, they are less likely to do the thing that results in that something, the definition of a deterrent.
what do you mean society would give you that right?
do you think people hesitate to commit murder not by common sense, but in fear of getting executed?
i doubt a society built on fear ever will have be safer then a society built on understanding, excuse my prejudice but i suspect you live in a religious country.
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On July 22 2012 03:53 FeUerFlieGe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:35 Hemling wrote:On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet. would you mind killing him yourself? would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man? do you think it will prevent something like this happening again? why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts. Yes! More people in jails! Not like they are overflowing already.
I really think that they should give like 10 years of redemption time to the prisoners in order for them to prove that they are still capable to contributing to the society with some sort of high school courses studies and/or factory work. And after that, they can be release back if they have done exceptionally well in them by scoring high in them.
If they still wouldn't change their attitude in things, get rid of them. Yes I do mean capital punishment since they are already nuisance to the society.
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On July 22 2012 03:57 Hemling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:47 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 22 2012 03:42 Hemling wrote:
i just want to know what gives you the right to hand out death penalties and how that would prevent something like this happening again. well... society would give us that right. and i have yet to see any evidence that the criminals who fight tooth and nail to stay their executions are not afraid of those executions. when people are afraid of something, they are less likely to do the thing that results in that something, the definition of a deterrent. what do you mean society would give you that right? do you think people hesitate to commit murder not by common sense, but in fear of getting executed? i doubt a society built on fear ever will have be safer then a society built on understanding, excuse my prejudice but i suspect you live in a religious country.
i mean that society would allow us to perform the execution. tbh, i consider it a natural right of mankind to be allowed to execute criminals who engage in acts of mass destruction/mayhem.
i think it would help prevent people from doing these kinds of things, yes. they clearly have a warped view of "common sense" anyway, but even a dog is afraid to die.
i doubt that empty rhetoric and nice sounding platitudes are ever going to be a solution for anything. and no i will not excuse your prejudice. if you hold it than go ahead, but the tables can be turned. "i suspect that you live in a relatively secular society, which could explain your misunderstanding of reality".... but then why would i say that when its wildly off-topic and adds nothing to the discussion?
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On July 22 2012 03:59 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:53 FeUerFlieGe wrote:On July 22 2012 03:35 Hemling wrote:On July 22 2012 03:26 YouMake wrote:
The guy was seriously fucking insane. I'm 100% on board for the death penalty. You shot 70 people and kill 12 of them and leave another 38 in the balance of life and death, i dont feel like you deserve to breathe the air on this planet. would you mind killing him yourself? would you mind getting executed after that for killing a man? do you think it will prevent something like this happening again? why not just lock him up and spend the rest of his days to evaluate his mind so we can find the cause of these kinds of horrific acts. Yes! More people in jails! Not like they are overflowing already. I really think that they should give like 10 years of redemption time to the prisoners in order for them to prove that they are still capable to contributing to the society with some sort of high school courses studies and/or factory work. And after that, they can be release back if they have done exceptionally well in them by scoring high in them. If they still wouldn't change their attitude in things, get rid of them. Yes I do mean capital punishment since they are already nuisance to the society.
Lol what? giving mass murder's a second chance? jesus where do you people come from.
Not to mention its not hard to change you're attitude when you know you're gonna get released. Espically when they are smart like Holmes apperntly was.
Sorry but what a stupid post.
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