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SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
July 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#281
Great commentary for the speech

https://twitter.com/#!/ProfBrianCox
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 04 2012 07:44 GMT
#282
On July 04 2012 16:40 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:36 Golgotha wrote:
i am sorry to ask a question now when you scientists are all closely listening to this announcement.
I understand that they seem to have found an elusive particle and can now back it up with enormous amounts of data and tech. they prove that it exists because they can now "see" after years of research and work.

BUT, what does the higgs boson prove? [that the current model of particle physics (the standard model) is on track.] will it's existence change anything? [not much. was expected by many, if not most.] will it bring about leaps in technology? [Nope.] Explain the origin of the universe (big bang?)? [A small step closer maybe, but not really groundbreaking I'd say.] What does this mean? [PARTY AT CERN EVERYONE INVITED!!! :D]

Thank you!



lmao thanks man. i would love to party with scientists!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 04 2012 07:45 GMT
#283
On July 04 2012 16:43 Sandtrout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:41 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, remember, that is only the first 2 channels!

AND ONLY 1 EXPERIMENT!!

Combine that with the other experiment, and the error will be even smaller!


Yeah, I really hope Atlas has similar significant results and I think they will

haha, would suck if ATLAS just has nothing at all in any channel.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
July 04 2012 07:45 GMT
#284
On July 04 2012 16:43 alderamin wrote:
So which person are they going to give the Nobel prize? 5000 people?


My guess is, it will depend a great deal on whose names are on the final monograph published in the appropriate journals. Then, too, they could just give it to CERN. (The Physics prize. I don't see this as Peace prize material - it doesn't really fall into the realm of the Peace prize.)
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:45 GMT
#285
I think he said there was a 5.1 sigma after the first four channels.

He's doing the
Higgs -> tau lepton, tau lepton channel.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:48:42
July 04 2012 07:46 GMT
#286
On a random tangent, imagine how funny it would be if one day there were a super important thing verified to 5-6+ sigma, and then later it turned out the very slight nonzero chance of error actually occurred. After all, the chances are much lower of me winning the jackpot... but hey it happens o.o
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:46 GMT
#287
These slides are showing No Higgs vs Higgs.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#288
On July 04 2012 16:43 SpiffD wrote:
Great commentary for the speech

https://twitter.com/#!/ProfBrianCox


Ohhh, that link is awesome, thanks!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
July 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#289
On July 04 2012 16:43 SpiffD wrote:
Great commentary for the speech

https://twitter.com/#!/ProfBrianCox


Nice link thanks !
Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
July 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#290
so many spikes...
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
July 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#291
Why oh why !?! The standard model is so ugly ...
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#292
All combined the data from the 5 channels that they are sensitive to, they hit 4.9 sigma.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 04 2012 07:47 GMT
#293
On July 04 2012 16:43 Sandtrout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:41 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, remember, that is only the first 2 channels!

AND ONLY 1 EXPERIMENT!!

Combine that with the other experiment, and the error will be even smaller!


Yeah, I really hope Atlas has similar significant results and I think they will


ATLAS has 4.3 sigma global significance.
Such flammable little insects!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:48 GMT
#294
The mass of the Higgs boson = 125.3 +/- 0.6 GeV
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
LazyDT
Profile Joined June 2011
United States71 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:48:59
July 04 2012 07:48 GMT
#295
1.25 +/- .6 GeV...awesome.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
July 04 2012 07:48 GMT
#296
On July 04 2012 16:46 EtherealDeath wrote:
On a random tangent, imagine how funny it would be if one day there were a super important thing verified to 5-6+ sigma, and then later it turned out the very slight nonzero chance of error actually occurred.


You would have to have some pretty damn super proof of that - not that it couldn't happen, just that everyone you're proving wrong and most other people with less of a stake but an understanding of the statistical probabilities will take a lot of convincing. If they can be convinced. Some breakthroughs take the death or retirement of the "old guard" to come to light.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 04 2012 07:48 GMT
#297
On July 04 2012 16:47 HomeWorld wrote:
Why oh why !?! The standard model is so ugly ...


The standard model is a lot prettier than the alternatives.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 04 2012 07:48 GMT
#298
On July 04 2012 16:48 kingjames01 wrote:
The mass of the Higgs boson = 125.3 +/- 0.6 GeV


Dat mass.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:49 GMT
#299
These slides are summarizing the probabilities to go into each exit channel.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Starburst
Profile Joined November 2011
United States108 Posts
July 04 2012 07:49 GMT
#300
Can someone please explain all this lol. I really want to understand, but lack the physics knowledge to decipher this code...
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