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Higgs Particle Announcement Incoming!!! - Page 14

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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
July 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#261
OOO Standard Model Higgs it may be then eh. Too bad in a way, I kind of wish the Higgs is never found because it's always more interesting when shit doesn't happen as expected and breaks shit. Kind of like blackbody radiation back in the day, although that was quite apparent without the need for experimentation.
Hi, I'm Mr. Higgs. I can be somewhat hard to find. I'm a rarely seen little bugger at probably ~126 GeV. It was probably pretty easy for you to find me here. Can you imagine the pain in the ass collecting enough data to discover me at the LHC?
alderamin
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:40:34
July 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#262
He claims 5 sigma probability. This means they officially claim having discovered Higgs.

All combined data he claims is enough for 5 sigma, which is the accepted cutoff probability. So 125 GeV Higgs it is.
Sandtrout
Profile Joined July 2011
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:39:50
July 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#263
I didn't listen for a second, why did they clap???

Edit:
On July 04 2012 16:38 alderamin wrote:
He claims 5 sigma probability. This means they officially claim having discovered Higgs.


wow
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#264
With the new statistics, they broke the 5 sigma barrier. That was a landmark which they will be able to improve upon with more events.

New channel:
Higgs -> W boson, W boson
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
July 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#265
On July 04 2012 16:38 IronManSC wrote:
stream goes offline.

*refresh*

Crowd is clapping.

WHATTTT??!?


5 sigma. Very very significant.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#266
On July 04 2012 16:38 Eishi_Ki wrote:
People just started randomly clapping

I DONT UNDERSTAND


He explained how significant the results are. tl;dr: "Pretty damn close to being right", even with the statistical errors involved.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#267
On July 04 2012 16:37 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:36 Golgotha wrote:
i am sorry to ask a question now when you scientists are all closely listening to this announcement.
I understand that they seem to have found an elusive particle and can now back it up with enormous amounts of data and tech. they prove that it exists because they can now "see" after years of research and work.

BUT, what does the higgs boson prove? will it's existence change anything? will it bring about leaps in technology? Explain the origin of the universe (big bang?)? What does this mean?

Thank you!


It means someone gets tenure at the university of his/her choice and a crack at the Nobel prize for physics.

Beyond that? It may in fact lead to greater understanding of the universe.


this seems nobel peace prize worthy!
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
July 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#268
On July 04 2012 16:38 IronManSC wrote:
stream goes offline.

*refresh*

Crowd is clapping.

WHATTTT??!?


Combined H-->gamma+gamma and H-->ZZ gives a 5 sigma result for a higgs boson at 125.5 GeV
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
July 04 2012 07:39 GMT
#269
5 standard deviations = 0.0000573303% that they are wrong
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:41:33
July 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#270
On July 04 2012 16:39 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:38 IronManSC wrote:
stream goes offline.

*refresh*

Crowd is clapping.

WHATTTT??!?


5 sigma. Very very significant.

5 sigma = probably that there is no Higgs given current data is ~0.0000573%

edit - oops overtyped zeroes first time
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#271
On July 04 2012 16:39 frogmelter wrote:
5 standard deviations = 0.0000573303% that they are wrong


thank you! oh man so this is history? landmark event in science?
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
July 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#272
On July 04 2012 16:38 IronManSC wrote:
stream goes offline.

*refresh*

Crowd is clapping.

WHATTTT??!?


Use alternate link at the bottom of page for smoother stream
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#273
On July 04 2012 16:36 Golgotha wrote:
i am sorry to ask a question now when you scientists are all closely listening to this announcement.
I understand that they seem to have found an elusive particle and can now back it up with enormous amounts of data and tech. they prove that it exists because they can now "see" after years of research and work.

BUT, what does the higgs boson prove? [that the current model of particle physics (the standard model) is on track.] will it's existence change anything? [not much. was expected by many, if not most.] will it bring about leaps in technology? [Nope.] Explain the origin of the universe (big bang?)? [A small step closer maybe, but not really groundbreaking I'd say.] What does this mean? [PARTY AT CERN EVERYONE INVITED!!! :D]

Thank you!

Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
July 04 2012 07:40 GMT
#274
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww shit 5 FUCKING SIGMA
Everyday Girl's Day~!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:41 GMT
#275
Also, remember, that is only the first 2 channels!

AND ONLY 1 EXPERIMENT!!

Combine that with the other experiment, and the error will be even smaller!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Sandtrout
Profile Joined July 2011
243 Posts
July 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#276
On July 04 2012 16:41 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, remember, that is only the first 2 channels!

AND ONLY 1 EXPERIMENT!!

Combine that with the other experiment, and the error will be even smaller!


Yeah, I really hope Atlas has similar significant results and I think they will
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#277
History!!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#278
I missed the beginning of this section but it appears to be the
Higgs -> bottom quark, anti-bottom quark channel
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
July 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#279
On July 04 2012 16:39 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:37 felisconcolori wrote:
On July 04 2012 16:36 Golgotha wrote:
i am sorry to ask a question now when you scientists are all closely listening to this announcement.
I understand that they seem to have found an elusive particle and can now back it up with enormous amounts of data and tech. they prove that it exists because they can now "see" after years of research and work.

BUT, what does the higgs boson prove? will it's existence change anything? will it bring about leaps in technology? Explain the origin of the universe (big bang?)? What does this mean?

Thank you!


It means someone gets tenure at the university of his/her choice and a crack at the Nobel prize for physics.

Beyond that? It may in fact lead to greater understanding of the universe.


this seems nobel peace prize worthy!


Because it solidifies the current physics model. If the Higgs boson wasn't found, then the standard model would collapse (of course it's not as simple and absolute as "collapse" but you get the point). In modern physics, there are math to find stuff then many years later experiments are made to prove the math were right.
So it's research on paper --> research on colliders --> proof --> more research on paper

Imagine the research of everyone in the world, which was based on the standard model being suddently irrelevant!!
That's why it's so bloody important
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
alderamin
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:44:53
July 04 2012 07:43 GMT
#280
So which person are they going to give the Nobel prize? 5000 people?

Well US and your Superconducting Super Collider, eat your heart out.
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