EPTSmarter people more prone to cognitive bias - Page 17
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wanghis
United States320 Posts
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
Also I think there is a misconception with regard to what cognitive bias entails. Please go look it up before making assumptions xD | ||
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Sorkoas
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
It's 5 cents .. then the other is $1.05 - all together $1.10 If this topic interests you, then you should read a book called "Thinking Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman - probably spelt his name wrong. People make these errors because they are essentially lazy mentally; whether it's because we think we are smart or we have just become comfortable, mental laziness is the key we thus rely on our "intuitive" or "System 1" as the book puts it. The trick is to recognise this and try and amend your behaviour (i feel the book has sort of helped as i got both the lillypad and bat and ball question correct by automatically using extra mental effort to think it through, engaging "System 2" as the book puts it) On June 21 2012 21:22 Klockan3 wrote: So a five year old would also answer 24 days and 10 cents? No, that intuition came from studying maths for over ten years. You can train your intuition but it takes time. According to all the stuff i have read on the topic, which is quite limited, but they all state that you can't train your intuition as VanGarde words it. Your brain will always produce an intuitive response without your control. It is up to you to reject it or accept it | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On June 21 2012 22:04 bkrow wrote: + Show Spoiler + It's 5 cents .. then the other is $1.05 - all together $1.10 If this topic interests you, then you should read a book called "Thinking Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman - probably spelt his name wrong. People make these errors because they are essentially lazy mentally; whether it's because we think we are smart or we have just become comfortable, mental laziness is the key we thus rely on our "intuitive" or "System 1" as the book puts it. The trick is to recognise this and try and amend your behaviour (i feel the book has sort of helped as i got both the lillypad and bat and ball question correct by automatically using extra mental effort to think it through, engaging "System 2" as the book puts it) According to all the stuff i have read on the topic, which is quite limited, but they all state that you can't train your intuition as VanGarde words it. Your brain will always produce an intuitive response without your control. It is up to you to reject it or accept it When you play Starcraft all that you are doing is training your intuition, every single game. Make a supply depot on 10. The first time I had to make a supply depot I had to think, how do I do that? Ah, you press B, S and then left mouse click on the place that you want to put it. Next time, ah yeah B, S and uhh what was the 3rd step??? I remember again B, S and left mouse click. 3rd time-->You don't have to think about it anymore because it has become intuitive. My mechanics are still the same after not playing for half a year because everything is ingrained into my brain. When I actually think about what my hands are doing, like the above example throughout the game I won't be able to give you an answer. I would actually have to stop playing and be like, what did my hands just do? | ||
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
On June 21 2012 22:05 Klockan3 wrote: A better question to trick you is "If a baseball bat costs 2$ plus half the price of a baseball bat, whats the price of a baseball bat?". Btw, why do everyone discuss the problems and not the actual topic? That question doesn't make any sense. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
sure it does. Just simplify x = 2 + 1/2x and you will get your answer | ||
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Chemist391
United States368 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46321 Posts
On June 22 2012 03:55 BlackJack wrote: sure it does. Just simplify x = 2 + 1/2x and you will get your answer Agreed. + Show Spoiler + $2 is the other half of the price of the baseball bat... the total price is $4. | ||
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nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Agreed. + Show Spoiler + $2 is the other half of the price of the baseball bat... the total price is $4. I guess he thought the way I thought at beginning. If a baseball bat costs 2$ plus half the price of something else, how much does a baseball bat cost? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46321 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:41 nucLeaRTV wrote: I guess he thought the way I thought at beginning. If a baseball bat costs 2$ plus half the price of something else, how much does a baseball bat cost? Ah, perhaps it could be written more clearly, such as: "If a baseball bat costs $2 plus half the price of itself, what's the price of the baseball bat?". Is that easier to understand? | ||
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xNSwarm
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Emporium
England162 Posts
A question has been asked and a sample has been taken and these are the answers, and therefore referenceable to the population. All logical steps to take. (Apart from that Math tells us that sample sizing only works and can be referenced if ALL the variables of the habitat are taken into, and adhered/accepted for the sample size to then be effectively mirroring the whole of the research.) Incorrect. Because, i don't see any comparable data for 'non smart' people? And why is that, because prove to me of somebody who is 'non smart'? and you will be looking at a person who will find ways to see how you aren't smart. The reason is that you define somebody to be not smart because of bias you have, and as such the circle of logic that is this piece of research goes round! People grow and develop completely differently and have different experiences that map are conscious differently, this survey only further proves that. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46321 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:57 xNSwarm wrote: my guess to the lily pad question was 46. The chance that the current lily pad patch times 2^x= exactly the entire lake is next to nothing. So you rejected the premise of the brain teaser, yet decided to make up your own rule and answer the question based on that instead? Okay then. That's rather interesting. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:57 xNSwarm wrote: my guess to the lily pad question was 46. The chance that the current lily pad patch times 2^x= exactly the entire lake is next to nothing. if it covers half the lake on the 46th day then it will cover the entire lake on the 47th day. so your answer must be incorrect since we know it takes 48 days to cover the entire lake. | ||
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xNSwarm
155 Posts
On June 22 2012 05:09 BlackJack wrote: if it covers half the lake on the 46th day then it will cover the entire lake on the 47th day. so your answer must be incorrect since we know it takes 48 days to cover the entire lake. My bad. What I said was pretty stupid. Nevermind then. | ||
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LoveBuzz
Canada28 Posts
People of all levels of education are prone to bias. The only way to actually remove it is to train oneself, and that requires being able to accept the possibility that everything you know and feel might be wrong, which is the tricky part for most. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Boypartz
United States24 Posts
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