EPTI came up wrong on both answers, and didn't even know how to do the Pond one. Cool to see so many people good at that kind of stuff though.
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Kraidio
China133 Posts
I came up wrong on both answers, and didn't even know how to do the Pond one. Cool to see so many people good at that kind of stuff though. | ||
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Zahir
United States947 Posts
The psychiatrist told me that he didn’t want to ‘lose another one’, that people like me are intelligent, and that’s our downfall. We draw connections so well that we draw them even when they shouldn’t be there. He said it’s easy to get caught up in paranoia in our fast paced world, a constantly changing place where more and more of our interaction is simulated… I have to give him one thing. It’s a great explanation. It neatly explains everything. It perfectly explains everything, in fact. I have every reason to shake off this nightmarish fear that some thing or consciousness or being out there wants me to open the door so it can capture me for some horrible fate worse than death. It would be foolish, after hearing that explanation, to stay in here until I starve to death just to spite the entity that might have got everyone else. It would be foolish to think that, after hearing that explanation, I might be one of the last people left alive on an empty world, hiding in my secure basement room, spiting some unthinkable deceptive entity just by refusing to be captured. It’s a perfect explanation for every single strange thing I’ve seen or heard, and I have every reason in the world to let all of my fears go, and open the door. That's exactly why I'm not going to. Excerpt from Psychosis. When a psychologist starts making a hoopla over what ought to be common sense, suspicion is the proper response. | ||
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anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
the bat and ball one is more worrying, haha. once again i instinctively thought 10c/$1 but it's only because i suspected a trap that i backchecked it to find that that's a 90c difference. i got 5c/$1.05 a few seconds after that. i'd count that as a fail. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On June 13 2012 13:27 Ecrilon wrote: A bat and ball cost a dollar and ten cents. The bat costs a dollar, more than the ball. How much does the ball cost? Suddenly the ball costs 10 cents instead of 5 cents. ****ing commas man. How do they work. I like this. Nonetheless, I'd say it would be very improper english to use a comma like that. One would probably need to use an em-dash, parenthesis, or possibly an elipsis. When english is written wrong one could consider something interpretable in multiple ways; it should be done correctly to ensure only a single proper answer. Yes, I am aware that it would [somewhat] kill the trickiness of this question, but that's kinda the point. | ||
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
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Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
 also, title contradicts itself! | ||
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JustPassingBy
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tertos
Romania394 Posts
Smarter people more prone to cognitive bias = People with legs are more prone to falling. | ||
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Grend
1600 Posts
and then lo and behold people are not able to answer correctly to word riddles designed to confound you. | ||
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DoctorPhil
Netherlands168 Posts
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Kyrillion
Russian Federation748 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + If we calculate the inner pression in a bubble, heeding both superficial tension and the outer pression, we find that the pression is greater if the bull is smaller. Surprise, the little bubble shrinks and yields its air to the big one ! It's impossible to guess that result by intuition, of course. On June 14 2012 04:54 Cynry wrote: You probably don't know much about IQ tests. It's a wide array of tasks that you have to complete, and the result is calculated considering the time it took you and how good were your answers. From what I remember there were logic, calculus, some general knowledge, vocabulary and even some moral issues (like, if you find a wallet with the owner ID in it, what do you do). Of course factors such as mood, weariness and maybe even luck to an extent can change the outcome. The trick, which is what I think most people don't know, is that the result isn't strictly how intelligent you are. It's more like trying to know what time is it by watching the shade of a stick in the ground. Indirect measurement, and with only 70% accuracy if I remember correctly. Still the best way we have to measure it so far, as far as I know. So, being intelligent isn't how fast/good you perform those tasks, but being intelligent helps in doing them better/faster. What you describe in the first sentence I quoted would be the smart way to use your intelligence, not being intelligent. Also, please stop saying that IQ tests are stupid. Some people have suffered being "gifted" with high IQ, and knowing why can help them. It is peculiar after mentioning those tests include moral questions you claim they're not stupid. Obviously they could be made better. | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
The human condition is to jump to conclusions, this has been proven time and time again when you look at how people come to have an opinion in for example politics. Almost everyone on planet earth will sadly first pick their stance and THEN look at the arguments to find the ones that support their stance. The one consistent difference is philosophy students. They first look at the angles and then take a stance. The answer is quite easy, philosophy students have been trained to think twice, they are constantly forced to solve "moral problems" like the one with the train approaching 10 people and you have the ability to flip the switch and make it go onto the rail with only 1 person on it. This practice of being forced to look for hidden information or other angles is the difference and people who do not study philosophy can train themselves to do the same obviously. Your intuitive response is never going to change, you can't train intuition, intuition is in most cases completely useless. The difference intelligence and practice does is that you know to ignore your intuition and keep looking for all the data. In the end smart people can still get these questions wrong if they are not aware of how our brain fails us, it might be that they are very intelligent and they wrongfully think that their intelligence is also represented in their intution. But the intuition of a professor and a dumbass is about as good. They will vastly differ though on rational thinking. Which means that the bottom line remains whether or not you are aware of how we are biased and how our intuition fools us. It almost seems like the argument in the OP is that your instant 0.1 millisecond reaction response is going to be wrong so you are wrong. But it is only really wrong if you stop there and go with that answer, which smart people will not do. Who cares what the initial reaction is if you immediately identify it as incorrect? | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On June 15 2012 11:52 VanGarde wrote: Your intuitive response is never going to change, you can't train intuition, intuition is in most cases completely useless. The difference intelligence and practice does is that you know to ignore your intuition and keep looking for all the data. Intuition grows with experience. It's not some magical inborn power that can never ever be altered. | ||
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blarkh
Austria72 Posts
On June 14 2012 13:17 theolysis wrote: In my experience, less unintelligent people are just as biased as intelligent people. In my experience, less unintelligent people are intelligent people. | ||
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TurtleNinja
United States15 Posts
On June 15 2012 18:28 Voltaire wrote: The bat/ball question was worded oddly. Random questions like that don't measure anything. Using inductive reasoning, I can infer that you probably failed the bat/ball question. | ||
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ChoiBoi
United States130 Posts
 ) I said 24...But yeah, the ball/bat question is worded weirdly, but I did get the question right. x + y = 1.10 x = y + 1 (y + 1) + y = 1.10 2y = .10 1.05 = x (bat) .05 = y (ball) | ||
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On June 15 2012 11:52 VanGarde wrote: Your intuitive response is never going to change, you can't train intuition, intuition is in most cases completely useless. The difference intelligence and practice does is that you know to ignore your intuition and keep looking for all the data. So a five year old would also answer 24 days and 10 cents? No, that intuition came from studying maths for over ten years. You can train your intuition but it takes time. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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