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On June 07 2012 11:43 Damrak wrote: reminds me of the good ol times when blacks were only allowed to sit in the back of the bus.
This gave me a good chuckle haha
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On June 08 2012 04:29 hzflank wrote: So you think that gay men are more likely to abuse boys than straight men are? I find that very unlikely. In fact, I cannot recall hearing of any cases of openly gay paedophiles.
Edit: Sorry, I misinterpreted. I agree the reason that most paedophiles are straight is because most men are straight. I would not be surprised if 99% of reported paedophiles are men.
For starters, there is NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) and its members who have made headline after headline the past few decades. They oppose the age of consent laws for relationships between men and adolescent males/boys. During the beginning of the LGBT (gay rights movement) gaining support and momentum in the 1970s, NAMBLA tried to associate themselves within the gay movement but this was met with a lot of resistance to the point that gay groups actively stopped NAMBLA from participating in rallies and parades. Continuing scandals in the 1980s led to further distancing of the gay rights movement from pedophilia and were removed from the International Lesbian and Gay Association in the early 1990s for supporting pedophilia after the UN threatened to remove their status. Check out the 1994 documentary, Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys.
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Interesting...I was never a boy scout so I've no idea, but this is kind of dumb.
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They should let Homosexual Scouts of course. Still won't change the awful experience of camping in the Boy Scouts, freezing cold, crap food, all for a stupid badge
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The Boy Scouts of America banning gay people is 100 percent completely reasonable. It is a social club. A club with their own rules and policies. It is also completely legal because in their bi-laws they state no homosexuals should participate. I mean nobody allows open and practicing Muslims in Catholics parishes. White people in Black student Scholarship funds.
The boy scouts is an idea, and unfortunately homosexuals do not conform to that idea. If they wanted to be part of the Boy scouts they should you know, stop being gay.
This may seem to be a bigoted position, but it is a Christian organization. Homosexuality presents a lifestyle that is not Christian. I mean, why don't gay people start a Boy Scouts esq organization that accepts all kinds of ideals. It is a group for like minded people. Gay people are not like minded in the sense of the Boy Scouts of America.
Edit: It is wrong for the Transportation system to discriminant because it is not a private industry. It is a completely public industry. I mean the only reason a restaurant can not decline serving black people is because of the idea of a centrally planned economy. If it was a completely capitalist economy, discrimination if anything is enforced. I mean sure, if you wanted to make clubs and organizations publically owned then sure, lets have the government control everything. But if you still want an organization to be privately owned, and let them to do them, then leave them be to their own ideals.
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On June 08 2012 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:They should let Homosexual Scouts of course. Still won't change the awful experience of camping in the Boy Scouts, freezing cold, crap food, all for a stupid badge 
You must have been in the wrong troop, mine held lan pasties and ordered pizza, and we also knew how to cook, and i assume they still do. We once held a lan party in a cabin in the middle of winter, and played halo 1 and open source games and bw, and ate solely out of a deep fryer, for a weekend.
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On June 08 2012 05:42 RodrigoX wrote: The Boy Scouts of America banning gay people is 100 percent completely reasonable. It is a social club. A club with their own rules and policies. It is also completely legal because in their bi-laws they state no homosexuals should participate. I mean nobody allows open and practicing Muslims in Catholics parishes. White people in Black student Scholarship funds.
The boy scouts is an idea, and unfortunately homosexuals do not conform to that idea. If they wanted to be part of the Boy scouts they should you know, stop being gay.
This may seem to be a bigoted position, but it is a Christian organization. Homosexuality presents a lifestyle that is not Christian. I mean, why don't gay people start a Boy Scouts esq organization that accepts all kinds of ideals. It is a group for like minded people. Gay people are not like minded in the sense of the Boy Scouts of America.
Edit: It is wrong for the Transportation system to discriminant because it is not a private industry. It is a completely public industry. I mean the only reason a restaurant can not decline serving black people is because of the idea of a centrally planned economy. If it was a completely capitalist economy, discrimination if anything is enforced. I mean sure, if you wanted to make clubs and organizations publically owned then sure, lets have the government control everything. But if you still want an organization to be privately owned, and let them to do them, then leave them be to their own ideals.
http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSheets/operating_orgs.aspx
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Do any gay kids even want to join the boy scouts? Aren't they too busy playing dress-up and with doll houses and stuff?
Seems to me this is another fight that gays have picked just so they can argue about something.
Should the boy scouts allow girls to join too? Seems sexist that they don't.
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On June 08 2012 05:55 Noelani wrote: Do any gay kids even want to join the boy scouts? Aren't they too busy playing dress-up and with doll houses and stuff?
Seems to me this is another fight that gays have picked just so they can argue about something.
Should the boy scouts allow girls to join too? Seems sexist that they don't.
That's why there are Girl Scouts....
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On June 07 2012 12:02 SpunXtainz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 11:51 iamahydralisk wrote:On June 07 2012 11:42 SpunXtainz wrote: I think it is a dangerous step.
Apart from some of the other points raised here, scouts is supposed to be a masculine pasttime, where men prepare themselves for life. Allowing a feminine person to lead them... Oh you. Just because someone is gay doesn't make them feminine at all. The truth is, you wouldn't be able to tell most gay men from straight men from the way they act because most gay men aren't flamboyant at all. I think it is a misjudgement that most gay men can't me told apart from straight ones. Almost all of the gay people I know are quite feminine. Exactly. All the gay people you know are gay are quite feminine. The point I was trying to make is that with the majority of gay people, you wouldn't KNOW they were gay because they're not obvious about it. You probably know plenty of gay people that you don't actually know are gay because they're not flamboyant about it.
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On June 08 2012 05:55 Noelani wrote: Do any gay kids even want to join the boy scouts? Aren't they too busy playing dress-up and with doll houses and stuff?
Seems to me this is another fight that gays have picked just so they can argue about something.
Should the boy scouts allow girls to join too? Seems sexist that they don't.
Playing dress up? Are you for real? Where do you get these ideas? W/e you probably won't respond anyway.
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On June 08 2012 05:55 Noelani wrote: Do any gay kids even want to join the boy scouts? Aren't they too busy playing dress-up and with doll houses and stuff?
Seems to me this is another fight that gays have picked just so they can argue about something.
Should the boy scouts allow girls to join too? Seems sexist that they don't.
I imagine that you said this while shirtless, leaning on your truck and chewing some corn.
'Whassat? Gays wan' be in the mil'tary? Ain't they too busy makin' cakes an' wearin' panties and stuff? Sheeeeeeit.'
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On June 08 2012 05:55 Noelani wrote: Do any gay kids even want to join the boy scouts? Aren't they too busy playing dress-up and with doll houses and stuff?
Seems to me this is another fight that gays have picked just so they can argue about something.
Should the boy scouts allow girls to join too? Seems sexist that they don't.
Wow...Are you kidding? Could you possibly be any more ignorant and crass?
Some of the comments in this thread are just pathetic.
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On June 08 2012 06:03 Smat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 05:55 Noelani wrote: Do any gay kids even want to join the boy scouts? Aren't they too busy playing dress-up and with doll houses and stuff?
Seems to me this is another fight that gays have picked just so they can argue about something.
Should the boy scouts allow girls to join too? Seems sexist that they don't. Playing dress up? Are you for real? Where do you get these ideas? W/e you probably won't respond anyway. he's got that popcorn motherfucker set as his mood. probably just stirring shit up... I hope so, anyway.
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I've never understood the stereotype that gay = feminine. How does that make sense? How is that even supposed to make sense? Lets face it: fucking men has got to be the most masculine thing you could possibly do.
The fact is that men in general are actually quite feminine (and women are quite masculine). People just have confirmation bias when it comes to gays.
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On June 07 2012 14:33 SpunXtainz wrote: If you want to be a boy scout leader, you shouldn't choose to be a homosexual. They want to have their pie and eat it too =/
This made me burst out laughing. The wording makes it seem like being openly gay is some kind of wondrous treat and being able to supervise boys is being able to savor that delicious morsel. You may want to undergo some deep introspection to see if you might actually want to kiss men.
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On June 08 2012 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:freezing cold, crap food, all for a stupid badge  Try the finnish defense force, you don't even get a badge.
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Many current Boy Scouts and adult leaders are gay. Some join BECAUSE they are gay and want a place to meet guys. Generally, keeping it on the down low is required or at least masquerading as humor.
I hope they make this official; it will mean a large step forward for the organization.
Edit: On a related note, female adult leaders and female employees are pretty ubiquitous in the organization. It's really not a big deal.
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I say No.
You can't compare for example the job market and the military to the boy scouts. Lets not demolish everything to fix a problem. I also anticipate a lot of predators to abuse something like this.
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I actually voted No on this.
It's not that I have anything against gay people, it's just not the image they're trying to portray. It'd be like having one white guy in a completely black Catholic church. It's just gonna be awkward for both parties.
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