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SpaceFighting
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand690 Posts
April 26 2012 01:40 GMT
#21
thats really disgusting... how can... omg... those teachers are taking advantage of their disability... thats fucking sick... how can a parent feel safe sending a child to school anymore? ive seen situations where in my class (about 4 years ago) that the teacher was abusing a child.

that parent did the right thing, even though its like, against the rules or w/e to put a wire on your child... this had to be done to uncover the truth.

good shit for uncovering the truth!
kuz pro
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
April 26 2012 01:42 GMT
#22
On April 26 2012 10:37 Senjai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:33 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Isn't it against the rules to record audio/video inside of a school? I'm employed by the college I used to attend, and if someone were video or audio recording without the consent of everyone in the room, I'd have to have security remove them.


Yep - It's also against the rules to do what these teachers were doing. When they're lying to parents and their administrators what else can they do. I'm sure they'll let it slide as a lesser evil in this regard.

In college / university its mostly to prevent recording and distributing lectures or class material - completely irrelevant to this. They would not have to worry about this kind of problem as by that age it would just never slide more than an hour without it being brought up in some student organized protest.

The policy is not to avoid disturbing/copying class material. If they were just wandering around the hallway quietly with a camcorder, we'd have to ask them to stop or leave.
And I never said what the teachers did wasn't wrong.
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
April 26 2012 01:42 GMT
#23
On April 26 2012 10:13 cscarfo1 wrote:
It's really sad especially because this is in my school district. And it angers me even more due to the fact the teacher was re-assigned to my high school

You should play this video in class, draw everyone's attention to it and call her out.

"Hey miss, what's your opinion about these bastards?"
PassionFruit
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
294 Posts
April 26 2012 01:43 GMT
#24
Just a petition for legislation that fires a teacher for bullying a student? He should sue the school district under the ADA or something. Problem is the audio may be inadmissible in court, but I don't see how it'll end other than a hefty settlement for the father either way.
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
April 26 2012 01:45 GMT
#25
Meh. Sounds like those women are not suited to teach small children. That's about it.
Still, nothing remarkable on those recordings. Can't believe this clips has 45k likes - feels like something that will once again get way overblown.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
Senjai
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada66 Posts
April 26 2012 01:45 GMT
#26
On April 26 2012 10:43 PassionFruit wrote:
Just a petition for legislation that fires a teacher for bullying a student? He should sue the school district under the ADA or something. Problem is the audio may be inadmissible in court, but I don't see how it'll end other than a hefty settlement for the father either way.


He isn't filing a lawsuit. If he were I'd be less sympathetic - well not really.
foxSC
Profile Joined November 2011
United States60 Posts
April 26 2012 01:45 GMT
#27
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.

User was banned for this post.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
April 26 2012 01:46 GMT
#28
On April 26 2012 10:33 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Isn't it against the rules to record audio/video inside of a school? I'm employed by the college I used to attend, and if someone were video or audio recording without the consent of everyone in the room, I'd have to have security remove them.


And then when something like this happens (sans recorded evidence), everyone dismisses it as sensationalized or made up. It would be inadmissable in court, but hopefully you can see that some good can come out of this too. I'm all for rights to privacy, but why is it that things you do at home are up for scrutiny by the surveillance state, but a public incident like this cannot be documented?
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Senjai
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada66 Posts
April 26 2012 01:48 GMT
#29
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


What if it were your child? What if it were you.

Asshole. There is a difference between weak and unable.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
April 26 2012 01:48 GMT
#30
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


I find that incredibly offensive. Stuff your survival of the fittest crap up your ass.
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No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
April 26 2012 01:53 GMT
#31
Only thing worse than the teachers actions is this guys sort of overacting (not overreacting)... That of course doesn't change the fact that those teachers need to be removed and get themselves some different jobs. Teaching autistic children is very difficult, and these people are clearly not up to the challenge to teach them, probably any children for that matter.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
K-Na
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada86 Posts
April 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#32
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


oh god haha, this post is quoteworthy. this man has no idea what he's talking about. survival of the fittest? really?
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
April 26 2012 01:58 GMT
#33
I just watched the whole thing, it's very saddening that more action was not taken by the school system to investigate the matter, if not directly take action after the presentation of evidence by the victim's father.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
April 26 2012 02:00 GMT
#34
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


It happens a lot less nowadays than it did before. Modern society is structured on the principle that the strong provide for the weak, and that everyone has a right to life regardless of their fitness. This is not how nature works, obviously, and a long time ago, people born with disabilities didn't live long enough for this kind of thing to happen to them.

By the way, it's unwise to vocalize unpopular opinions. All that can come of it is people responding in anger to your post, like the ones below you, and mods warning/banning you.

On April 26 2012 10:48 Senjai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


What if it were your child? What if it were you.

Asshole. There is a difference between weak and unable.


Inability is borne of weakness. Regardless of whether or not he is "right", your argument is invalid; people are hypocrites by nature. A good test of someone's stance on an issue actually avoids making it personal.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
April 26 2012 02:02 GMT
#35
On April 26 2012 10:53 No_Roo wrote:
Only thing worse than the teachers actions is this guys sort of overacting (not overreacting)... That of course doesn't change the fact that those teachers need to be removed and get themselves some different jobs. Teaching autistic children is very difficult, and these people are clearly not up to the challenge to teach them, probably any children for that matter.


I agree with everything you just said. This man is obviously putting on a bit of a show, which makes it a bit difficult to sympathize with him. However, listening to the audio clips is enough to make me agree with his message, at least.
hnQ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
113 Posts
April 26 2012 02:03 GMT
#36
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.

lmao

after this one I can predict great things for you
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 02:06:25
April 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#37
On April 26 2012 11:00 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


It happens a lot less nowadays than it did before. Modern society is structured on the principle that the strong provide for the weak, and that everyone has a right to life regardless of their fitness. This is not how nature works, obviously, and a long time ago, people born with disabilities didn't live long enough for this kind of thing to happen to them.

By the way, it's unwise to vocalize unpopular opinions. All that can come of it is people responding in anger to your post, like the ones below you, and mods warning/banning you.

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 10:48 Senjai wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


What if it were your child? What if it were you.

Asshole. There is a difference between weak and unable.


Inability is borne of weakness. Regardless of whether or not he is "right", your argument is invalid; people are hypocrites by nature. A good test of someone's stance on an issue actually avoids making it personal.



Total fucking garbage. I grew up with a mother that had spina bifida, and she never let her disability get in the way to achieve anything. She put forth more parenting effort than I observed from any of my peers' parents. My mother would invite my friends' parents over and many would leave in tears realizing how shit they were. Embarassing for me at the time, but looking back, it was damn good parenting making sure I wan't running with a bad crowd. A good test of someone's stance on an issue does not necessarily mean dismissing anecdotes.
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dannystarcraft
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
April 26 2012 02:06 GMT
#38
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


While you are perfectly entitled to hold this opinion, it really saddens me. I think there is something besides survival of the fittest that determines how people should be treated. I think there is a certain value to human life of any sort (including the disabled), and as so, they should be treated fairly.

I just hope that one day you don't have to "eat your words."
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
April 26 2012 02:08 GMT
#39
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


We define ourselves as different from animals. We don't poop in each other's gardens. Survival of the fittest has changed and is irrelevant in an advanced civilization.
If it's bad, then how come we build space rockets and tigers are almost extinct?
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
April 26 2012 02:09 GMT
#40
On April 26 2012 11:05 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:00 Demonhunter04 wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


It happens a lot less nowadays than it did before. Modern society is structured on the principle that the strong provide for the weak, and that everyone has a right to life regardless of their fitness. This is not how nature works, obviously, and a long time ago, people born with disabilities didn't live long enough for this kind of thing to happen to them.

By the way, it's unwise to vocalize unpopular opinions. All that can come of it is people responding in anger to your post, like the ones below you, and mods warning/banning you.

On April 26 2012 10:48 Senjai wrote:
On April 26 2012 10:45 foxSC wrote:
its life, its what happens in nature, strong taking advantage of the weak. just it happens alot more nowadays because there are alot more weak people living now as compared to even 50 or 100 years ago. need to remove the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself. if you have an autistic kid, you should try again imo. survival of the fittest.


What if it were your child? What if it were you.

Asshole. There is a difference between weak and unable.


Inability is borne of weakness. Regardless of whether or not he is "right", your argument is invalid; people are hypocrites by nature. A good test of someone's stance on an issue actually avoids making it personal.



Total fucking garbage. I grew up with a mother that had spina bifida, and she never let her disability get in the way to achieve anything. She put forth more parenting effort than I observed from any of my peers' parents. My mother would invite my friends' parents over and many would leave in tears realizing how shit they were. Embarassing for me at the time, but looking back, it was damn good parenting making sure I wan't running with a bad crowd. A good test of someone's stance on an issue does not necessarily mean dismissing anecdotes.


I'm not interested in addressing the rest of your post, but I just want to point out that "What if it were your child? What if it were you?" is not an anecdote. Again, dismissing most of the conversation here, I would say that the "What if it were you?" argument is kind of weak because its really just meant to catch people in their own hypocrisy or make them think twice about their stance if it isn't solid. But if you were to use it on somebody who has actually thought their opinions out carefully, that argument would be laughed at, I think.
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