On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
He's been posting one liners that lack substance, as far as I can tell, for hours, complaining about Biden's performance which could be considered theatrical (politics - it's not new). When people respond to him, he just flails his arms around, talks about feces, and considers that he's been winning the argument. It's sad... He's been acting like a major hypocrite, probably because his buddy Ryan got bashed around.
Burn... yes, burn it all to hell muahahahaha. I really wish the results were Goldwater status so the Republican party would take a good look at itself. The results will be close this year, but if shit doesn't change we're going to have only Democrats running the show in 20 years, and that's going to suck. Makes me wonder what was going on during the Civil Rights movement. Were those social issues big for voters back then? (Gay marriage isn't on the same level as equal rights, and I'm not trying to say they are)
On October 12 2012 12:56 Souma wrote: In any case, I'm not gonna put much weight behind this debate considering there were no serious gaffes. The next Presidential debate is just a few days from now. This debate will be behind us soon enough.
I dunno, Ryan's commitment to not overturning Roe v. Wade via the judiciary may well come up in the Presidential debates.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Uh, I don't know what thread or station you were watching, but one of THE biggest questions after the presidential debate was whether Romney would be perceived as overaggressive. I think you yourself even mentioned it multiple times during your scoring.
There is a substantive difference between what they did, though, and I would argue Biden's is the more defensible to be honest; fighting for every last word versus correcting your opponent at a perceived lie and displaying your real feelings? I'd rather the latter.
On October 12 2012 12:55 SafeAsCheese wrote: Average american voter...
This video is from the rebate, makes me facepalm so incredibly hard.
And on the contrast:
honestly, I watched a little bit of the second one... it doesn't seem as ignorant.
She doesn't believe in abortions (she's religious). Just because she's a democrat doesn't mean she is for abortion. She's open to the subject. She thinks it's a sin but I think she is saying who is she to judge someone else's interpretation of such controversial subject, it's between the person and god.
That's how I interpreted the video at least, but I only saw the first couple of minutes.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Uh, I don't know what thread or station you were watching, but one of THE biggest questions after the presidential debate was whether Romney would be perceived as overaggressive. I think you yourself even mentioned it multiple times during your scoring.
There is a substantive difference between what they did, though, and I would argue Biden's is the more defensible to be honest; fighting for every last word versus correcting your opponent at a perceived lie and displaying your real feelings? I'd rather the latter.
Yes, I did wonder about it, but very people really cared, which kinda surprised me. Now, if Romney interrupted Obama 82 times (someone at the RNC did a count) like Biden interrupted Ryan tonight, you can bet there would be a scandal.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Uh, I don't know what thread or station you were watching, but one of THE biggest questions after the presidential debate was whether Romney would be perceived as overaggressive. I think you yourself even mentioned it multiple times during your scoring.
There is a substantive difference between what they did, though, and I would argue Biden's is the more defensible to be honest; fighting for every last word versus correcting your opponent at a perceived lie and displaying your real feelings? I'd rather the latter.
Yes, I did wonder about it, but very people really cared, which kinda surprised me. Now, if Romney interrupted Obama 82 times (someone at the RNC did a count) like Biden interrupted Ryan tonight, you can bet there would be a scandal.
Among pundits and papers there was edit: 60-80% skepticism over how Romney's "antics" played with the public until polls rolled out. Virtually no one is flat out wrong to say, CNN talked about it MSNBC talked about it even FOX talked about whether it would play with the voters.
honestly, I watched a little bit of the second one... it doesn't seem as ignorant.
She doesn't believe in abortions (she's religious). Just because she's a democrat doesn't mean she is for abortion. She's open to the subject. She thinks it's a sin but I think she is saying who is she to judge someone else's interpretation of such controversial subject, it's between the person and god.
That's how I interpreted the video at least, but I only saw the first couple of minutes.
Did he even watch that video? Did he just post that because of the title and the fact that it features a black woman? The interviewer is trying SO HARD to bait her into saying something stupid and she doesn't fall for it. That video was a joke, give me a fucking break.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Uh, I don't know what thread or station you were watching, but one of THE biggest questions after the presidential debate was whether Romney would be perceived as overaggressive. I think you yourself even mentioned it multiple times during your scoring.
There is a substantive difference between what they did, though, and I would argue Biden's is the more defensible to be honest; fighting for every last word versus correcting your opponent at a perceived lie and displaying your real feelings? I'd rather the latter.
Yes, I did wonder about it, but very people really cared, which kinda surprised me. Now, if Romney interrupted Obama 82 times (someone at the RNC did a count) like Biden interrupted Ryan tonight, you can bet there would be a scandal.
People care more about the presidential debate. That said, if Romney was overly assertive while he cornered Obama, you'd have democrats crying and you'd have polls shifting toward the GOP because people don't give a crap about substance, they just want a good show. Nothing says "leader" like a guy who walks all over others, even though idealists would tell you that a leader is smart and rational. Being right or truthful by itself is worthless in those debates.
I'm not condoning it. It's a shame that Biden acted as he did, just like it's a shame Romney lied like a mofo. But they excel at what they do, even though they're essentially "playing the game" which makes them the most despicable con artists. And that, my friend, is the worthless populist battle that's plagued by a population of people who like reality TV.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
You don't become a prophet when guessing the outcome of something which has odds close to that of a coinflip.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
Alright we'll call you a prophet if Ole Mitt wins this. Otherwise we get to call you a deranged screwball and we'll bring up your fail any time you try to predict anything.
On October 12 2012 12:55 xDaunt wrote: The intellectual dishonesty around here never ceases to amaze me. There's a big difference between Romney interrupting the moderator to make points and Biden constantly talking over Ryan when it is clearly Ryan's opportunity to talk. There's a reason why everyone is wondering how Biden's antics played with the public when virtually no one was asking the same thing about Romney.
Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
On October 12 2012 13:02 Djzapz wrote: [quote] Are you seriously that ignorant of the politics game? Seriously, I checked this thread a few hours ago and you were there whining about Biden's overreaching assertiveness, which is what people like and want to see - how can you blame him?
On the other hand you have Ryan, who's blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant that happened before Obama was in power, and has participated to a political campaign that was all about the disingenuous tainting of Obama's image, sometimes through some quote mining that was not concealed in the slightest. And People eat that shit up even though it's disgraceful and even insulting - but the cesspool of voters is not likely to care.
It's like that on both sides, although you're very clearly on the right. And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
Here we go with the intellectual bigotry based on whether you are right or left >_>
You're right. I'm a bigot for mentioning that both sides use questionable tactics and that both sides are more blind to the questionable tactics used on their own side. Ironically, this is the case for xDaunt. I've seen that guy's posting for many months and he's not a moderate, at least not to my eye. Anyway, you deserve a slow clap.
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
No, you're a bigot for saying:
And you dare talk about intellectual dishonesty? I think your entire position can only exist because of intellectual dishonesty.
xDaunt is not the model for being on the right, thank god. I was talking specifically about him. He specifically embodies intellectual dishonesty, on this thread especially, but on others too.
That statement is pretty bad on your part. It basically implies that a conservative point of view is dependent on intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry if that's what it looks like, poor wording. I'll change it around. xDaunt is a major and a ridiculously blatant example of intellectual dishonesty. His being on the right has no bearing on that.
His hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty is displayed as such. His willingness to call others intellectually dishonest in a string of low-content 1-liner postings, and when criticized he calls people's arguments "diarrhea" while ironically not responding to their criticisms of his position
I'd say cognitive dissonance perhaps sums it up better than intellectual dishonesty.
If I'm wrong about Romney winning, cognitive dissonance would probably be a good term. However, I think we need to spend some time thinking about what the term should be if Romney does win. Savant? Prophet? Someone go break out a thesaurus. I think we can have a fascinating discussion on how best to laud me when the time comes.
You don't become a prophet when guessing the outcome of something which has odds close to that of a coinflip.
Most sites where you bet real money have obama still around a 70 to 30 favorite, not quite a coinflip in my eyes
EPT
