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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
40:00 Ryan Not including the Biden intrupts which were highly unprofessional and not sometihng I want from a leader. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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sevencck
Canada698 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:45 ampson wrote: I don't feel like either candidate won. I feel like ryan is clearly smarter, but biden relates to the people better, especially the seniors who always turn out to vote. So the democrats probably got the better of this one, but not by much. I saw no evidence of this. Was there anything in particular that stood out for you? | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:40 xDaunt wrote: Yes, everyone gets a fair shot. People are free to make of their lives what they will. The issue is why some do and some don't. In my opinion, it all starts with the family. yeah man, that kid raised in the ghetto with no dad and a mom who can barely pay the bills, has the same "fair" shot as the rich white kid who gets his parents to pay for his college | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:48 ey215 wrote: I don't know what Fox is saying but CNN wasn't crazy about Biden's demeanor. Even the liberal ABC said Biden was a little over the top with rudeness. IF THE LIBERAL Abc says that.......draw your own conclusion | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
But then again I kind of just described Oprah. Moral of the story: Bring out your inner Oprah, duh. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:49 SayGen wrote: 41:30 Biden 40:00 Ryan Not including the Biden intrupts which were highly unprofessional and not sometihng I want from a leader. Really? I'd want my leader to interrupt someone at a meeting if they disagreed with their facts, to be honest. Unless you don't believe Biden genuinely believed what he was saying, which I really, really, doubt given how he sounded. | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:46 JinDesu wrote: I think that's fine - except there's quite a lot that impede upon the lower classes' ability to rise amongst the ranks. And I do think the government, over time, has done a lot to remove those impediments. Actually we do a ton to promote growth we have freaking programs to feed anyone who can't feed themselves programs for every medical or school need. What else do you want? Do you want free money do you think everyone should start rich from Bitch 10 million in the bank and a house with a white picket fence no matter what you do? Where does it end? It doesn't that is where at some point you have to work the government isn't here to prevent you from failing it life its to protect your life and insure others are not in your way (by murder or harm) | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:49 TheTenthDoc wrote: But it's not a "fair shot" if some people have a better shot and easier time than others, is it? Or at least for most definitions of fair. Well then fair shot is a bad way to describe it. Does everyone have the opportunity to succeed? Well, I would say that living in a wealthy and a largely free nation is a good definition for "opportunity" in life. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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acker
United States2958 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
Absolutely nothing. No specifics. Basically, just trust me that the math will work, when all nonpartisan experts says it won't, and only partisan studies, which have been debunked in this thread, says will work, because Rosen ignores the estate tax, assumes massive growth for tax cuts that net to 0 (allegedly), and redefines middle class as 100k. | ||
Falling
Canada11265 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:49 SayGen wrote: 41:30 Biden 40:00 Ryan Not including the Biden intrupts which were highly unprofessional and not sometihng I want from a leader. I guess Romney isn't your guy then. re: laughter. I don't know. The smile had more to do with incredulity with what he was hearing rather than condenscending. Also. Do these political shows actually analyze anything anymore or do they just follow whatever is trending on twitter/ memes created? Screw twitter. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:51 jdseemoreglass wrote: Well then fair shot is a bad way to describe it. Does everyone have the opportunity to succeed? Well, I would say that living in a wealthy and a largely free nation is a good definition for "opportunity" in life. Woah, this is pretty heavily moving the goalposts now. Your definition automatically means you're right now unless an entirely different sphere of evidence is brought in. But we should probably just agree to disagree here, because no progress can be made on an untestable hypothesis without radical frame of mind change by one of the two parties involved. | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:50 biology]major wrote: yeah man, that kid raised in the ghetto with no dad and a mom who can barely pay the bills, has the same "fair" shot as the rich white kid who gets his parents to pay for his college He does just like them he can not be discriminated against for anything except what his work value is and what his willing to do to get where he wants to go. Everyone has the same opportunity he just like the white kid's parents who worked hard FOR THE SPECIFIC REASON that their kid would not have to go through the trials and tribulations they did. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
To be "fair" it only has to be a reasonable shot. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:49 SayGen wrote: 41:30 Biden 40:00 Ryan Not including the Biden intrupts which were highly unprofessional and not sometihng I want from a leader. Given what happened in the last debate, he should have interrupted more. After all, we learned that getting good poll numbers is all about optics. | ||
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