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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:39 kmillz wrote: Politifact, who usually favors Obama in truth-telling, seems to think Romney is telling more truth than Obama in this debate. The first 40 minutes was saying Romeny is telling a lie and Obama telling a truth but ok i guess | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
still, i think romney performend better than expected and slightly won the debate in the eyes of the american public. at the same time, my impression is that the margin of victory was way too small to close the gap. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
Even Chris Mathews is tearing into Obama, calling him too passive with his head down, blaming him for letting Romney get away with points. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:38 Deathmanbob wrote: Okay, well i live in a city in California, we have highschools in my city because we have a decent size population. I went to North highschool despite the fact that West highschool had better programs, if i was able to attend west, how am i to get there? we dont have a good buss route, if im poor and dont have a car i cant walk the 10+ miles to get to the other school when my school is only one mile away. There is a logistical problem to getting to better schools for the poor if it's so far away you can't find a way to get there, maybe you shouldn't be attending that school? It's not a perfect system, but it's a definite improvement over mandatory schools. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:39 kmillz wrote: Politifact, who usually favors Obama in truth-telling, seems to think Romney is telling more truth than Obama in this debate. From what I can see they're leaning towards Obama slightly on truth; most of Obama's hits on their current live update came from broken promises, which aren't quite the same thing as falsehoods. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:41 Black Gun wrote: i didnt like how romney avoided answering any question with conrete statements. still, i think romney performend better than expected and slightly won the debate in the eyes of the american public. at the same time, my impression is that the margin of victory was way too small to close the gap. well, there isn't a huge "gap" to start with. They are only a few points apart. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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NPF
Canada1635 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:39 HazMat wrote: I say we have the nominees answer questions they're not expected to know and give them points for being interesting. I think Stephen Fry would be a great host for it. With Alan Davies as the side host? Haha I like how there are fans of that show here | ||
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CrazedNight
United States65 Posts
He let Obama take so much extra time, and let Romney and Obama both talk over him when he tried to switch topics or cut them off. I was totaling extra time past part 2 (Above 2 minutes) and got Romney : 0:47 extra Obama: 7:02 extra Yes, I think Romney is the winner of that one. I'm surprised how well Romney did. I expected Obama to destroy him, given how bad Romney was before this debate. He must have been practicing a lot o.O | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:38 xDaunt wrote: Romney clearly won. It wasn't even close. I'm not surprised either. I'll write more in a bit. I support Obama but I agree. If we look at things objectively in terms of what they were saying, sure a lot of what Romney was saying wasn't grounded in truth and was vague in most areas but he looked and sounded like a winner. And looking and sounding like a winner matters a HUGE amount in the debates. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Chris Matthews is pissed. lol totally, I'm laughing at him rage on MSNBC. He's yelling at the screen that Obama let Romney win. Interesting. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:40 Shelke14 wrote: The first 40 minutes was saying Romeny is telling a lie and Obama telling a truth but ok i guess Care to cite something from politifact that back that up? I see one claim that says Romney said something mostly false, and that was only because he said 6 studies said, in regards to Obama's tax plan, that "its completely wrong", and they could only find 2 independent studies about it. Other than that, everything has been half true, mostly true, or true by romney, including the broken promise to lower premiums on seniors by 2,500$ being a broken promise by Obama. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:42 BluePanther wrote: well, there isn't a huge "gap" to start with. They are only a few points apart. yes, but even a few points can be quite a lot in the end. and i actually really meant "the margin of victory was too small, relative to the current size of the gap".  | ||
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KaRnaGe[cF]
United States355 Posts
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On October 04 2012 11:43 Slaughter wrote: It seems that while Romney did win, did he win enough to make any significant headway? Obama knows he is in the lead so he played it safe while Romney tried to be aggressive and did win the debate but Obama can just be like....so? I'll just continue to outspend you and its fine ezpz. I'm going to hold off until the foreign policy debate. Romney is stronger with domestic policy, but I think Obama is stronger in foreign policy. | ||
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