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On October 04 2012 11:14 Nanikure wrote:
Mitt Romney #1 Mod Interrupter NA
I don't think he understands that he isn't supposed to get the last word in every single fucking segment. Like a child he is.
That's the thing that's getting him offside with the mod. He wants the last word on everything and doesn't get that he's not entitled to it.
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On October 04 2012 11:18 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 11:16 ey215 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:15 Ventris wrote:On October 04 2012 11:14 ey215 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare? In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.
Restore State Leadership and Flexibility
Mitt will begin by returning states to their proper place in charge of regulating local insurance markets and caring for the poor, uninsured, and chronically ill. States will have both the incentive and the flexibility to experiment, learn from one another, and craft the approaches best suited to their own citizens.
Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards and requirements on both private insurance and Medicaid coverage
Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment
Offer innovation grants to explore non-litigation alternatives to dispute resolution
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition
Competition drives improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, offering consumers higher quality goods and services at lower cost. It can have the same effect in the health care system, if given the chance to work.
Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage
Facilitate IT interoperability
Empower Consumer Choice
For markets to work, consumers must have the information and the power to make decisions about their own care. Placing the patient at the center of the process will drive quality up and cost down while ensuring that services are designed to provide what Americans actually want.
End tax discrimination against the individual purchase of insurance
Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines
Unshackle HSAs by allowing funds to be used for insurance premiums
Promote "co-insurance" products
Promote alternatives to "fee for service"
Encourage "Consumer Reports"-type ratings of alternative insurance plans Source Yeah thats really...specific... What do you want? An actual 3,000 page legislation? You're never going to get that from a candidate. How about a several page? Like let's say 20. If I was asked to do a term paper and I did less than 2 pages I wouldn't expect a good grade. I hold a presidential candidate to a larger standard than myself. So let's say.. as many pages as it would take to detail an actual plan instead of some wishful thinking and ideas.
Well, thats pretty much what i would have answered 
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Meh, I don't like this education answer from Romney. I don't even have to hear Obama to give him a point.
7-3 Romney.
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On October 04 2012 11:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Poor kids -.-
Ya... He really should cut his Poor people, Poor kids, Poor this Poor that...
Low income sounds so much less offensive.
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Every time Obama says the word "And", he pauses for 2 seconds.
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On October 04 2012 11:18 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 11:17 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:15 Ventris wrote:On October 04 2012 11:14 ey215 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare? In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.
Restore State Leadership and Flexibility
Mitt will begin by returning states to their proper place in charge of regulating local insurance markets and caring for the poor, uninsured, and chronically ill. States will have both the incentive and the flexibility to experiment, learn from one another, and craft the approaches best suited to their own citizens.
Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards and requirements on both private insurance and Medicaid coverage
Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment
Offer innovation grants to explore non-litigation alternatives to dispute resolution
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition
Competition drives improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, offering consumers higher quality goods and services at lower cost. It can have the same effect in the health care system, if given the chance to work.
Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage
Facilitate IT interoperability
Empower Consumer Choice
For markets to work, consumers must have the information and the power to make decisions about their own care. Placing the patient at the center of the process will drive quality up and cost down while ensuring that services are designed to provide what Americans actually want.
End tax discrimination against the individual purchase of insurance
Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines
Unshackle HSAs by allowing funds to be used for insurance premiums
Promote "co-insurance" products
Promote alternatives to "fee for service"
Encourage "Consumer Reports"-type ratings of alternative insurance plans Source Yeah thats really...specific... how specific do you people want? be realistic here, even if you are biased. he's got two minutes with a Mod who doesn't like him and is all over Obama's junk, he doesn't have much time for specifics. He has had 18 months to let out a plan, if you go oh i dont have enough time in a 2 minute debate then you damn well better of done something before
he has discussed his plan, has specifics on his website.
you don't want him to have a plan, so even if he gave you a detailed plan, you would say: "wheres the details?"
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"It wasn't very detailed, which seems to be a trend." LOL bazing
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I just turned the debate off this shit is so fucking boring, they never got to anything interesting.
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On October 04 2012 11:17 Mindcrime wrote:
i lol @ Romney bringing up "the principles of the Constitution"
the entire purpose of the Constitution was to greatly expand the power of the federal government
It kinda hurts that he didn't mention a single right from the Constitution.
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On October 04 2012 11:17 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 11:15 Ventris wrote:On October 04 2012 11:14 ey215 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare? In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.
Restore State Leadership and Flexibility
Mitt will begin by returning states to their proper place in charge of regulating local insurance markets and caring for the poor, uninsured, and chronically ill. States will have both the incentive and the flexibility to experiment, learn from one another, and craft the approaches best suited to their own citizens.
Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards and requirements on both private insurance and Medicaid coverage
Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment
Offer innovation grants to explore non-litigation alternatives to dispute resolution
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition
Competition drives improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, offering consumers higher quality goods and services at lower cost. It can have the same effect in the health care system, if given the chance to work.
Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage
Facilitate IT interoperability
Empower Consumer Choice
For markets to work, consumers must have the information and the power to make decisions about their own care. Placing the patient at the center of the process will drive quality up and cost down while ensuring that services are designed to provide what Americans actually want.
End tax discrimination against the individual purchase of insurance
Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines
Unshackle HSAs by allowing funds to be used for insurance premiums
Promote "co-insurance" products
Promote alternatives to "fee for service"
Encourage "Consumer Reports"-type ratings of alternative insurance plans Source Yeah thats really...specific... how specific do you people want? be realistic here, even if you are biased. he's got two minutes with a Mod who doesn't like him and is all over Obama's junk, he doesn't have much time for specifics.
obamacare is how many pages in the actual legislation? you can summarize it in a few lines. because there is a general framework and approach. romney doesn't really care about all the underlying social welfare objectives in government healthcare. maybe if he's golf buddy with a health insurance guy he'll care about how to make their business better, but that's about it.
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Obama's losing debate for two reasons
1) Romney can basically claim to have any position he wants.
2) Obama has four years of decisions Romney can just pick apart.
Incumbent has a huge disadvantage.
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On October 04 2012 11:19 HardlyNever wrote:
"Poor kids"
Ouch.
Yeah because only Democrats can talk about poor kids, if Republicans do it it's like white people saying the n-word. They have to use code words like "lower income" so they don't come across as the uncompassionate bastards they are. Am I doing this right?
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On October 04 2012 11:20 Defacer wrote:
Obama's losing debate for two reasons
1) Romney can basically claim to have any position he wants.
2) Obama has four years of decisions Romney can just pick apart.
Incumbent has a huge disadvantage.
yet the incumbent almost never loses come election time.
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On October 04 2012 11:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 11:18 Deathmanbob wrote:On October 04 2012 11:17 sc2superfan101 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:15 Ventris wrote:On October 04 2012 11:14 ey215 wrote:On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare? In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.
Restore State Leadership and Flexibility
Mitt will begin by returning states to their proper place in charge of regulating local insurance markets and caring for the poor, uninsured, and chronically ill. States will have both the incentive and the flexibility to experiment, learn from one another, and craft the approaches best suited to their own citizens.
Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards and requirements on both private insurance and Medicaid coverage
Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment
Offer innovation grants to explore non-litigation alternatives to dispute resolution
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition
Competition drives improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, offering consumers higher quality goods and services at lower cost. It can have the same effect in the health care system, if given the chance to work.
Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage
Facilitate IT interoperability
Empower Consumer Choice
For markets to work, consumers must have the information and the power to make decisions about their own care. Placing the patient at the center of the process will drive quality up and cost down while ensuring that services are designed to provide what Americans actually want.
End tax discrimination against the individual purchase of insurance
Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines
Unshackle HSAs by allowing funds to be used for insurance premiums
Promote "co-insurance" products
Promote alternatives to "fee for service"
Encourage "Consumer Reports"-type ratings of alternative insurance plans Source Yeah thats really...specific... how specific do you people want? be realistic here, even if you are biased. he's got two minutes with a Mod who doesn't like him and is all over Obama's junk, he doesn't have much time for specifics. He has had 18 months to let out a plan, if you go oh i dont have enough time in a 2 minute debate then you damn well better of done something before he has discussed his plan, has specifics on his website. you don't want him to have a plan, so even if he gave you a detailed plan, you would say: "wheres the details?"
can you link me to the deductions and loopholes he will close?
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On October 04 2012 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
Meh, I don't like this education answer from Romney. I don't even have to hear Obama to give him a point.
7-3 Romney.
Glad to see even you're giving Obama the comeback 
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I want the argument to get to how Mitt Romney claimed Russia as America's #1 geo-political rival giving Russia claim against the anti-missile system trying to be implemented in Europe.
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WHAT A SHITTY LINE!!!! oh man, you cant use a old line like that but tweak it with crap
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Oh come on. 5 Minutes difference.
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EPT
