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On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected.
George H.W. Bush and Al Gore would probably beg to differ. They both would have likely ended up winning if it hadn't have been for H. Ross Perot and Ralph Nader.
That being said, I'm not sure Paul running on the Libertarian ticket would have as much of effect as Nader did on Gore and he for sure wouldn't have as much as Perot did in 1992.
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On September 05 2012 11:50 natrus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:48 screamingpalm wrote:
I really detest all these bootstrapping stories of American exceptionalism. "That's what it means to be a man". Fuck you Michelle... try having a debilitating sleep disorder, something you have no control over and see if you can still roll up your sleeves and "be a man". REALLY pissed me the fuck off. Sure its not something else bothering you? Got a little hate in ya?
Yes. Lots of hate. Try going through life unable to wake up on a normal schedule, doctors with no idea of the cause, and socirty calling you lazy and admiring people able to overcome odds with other physical disabilities that a person has a fighting chance with, and the guilt that comes with everyone calling you lazy. I'm bitter, yeah.
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On September 05 2012 11:51 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take?
I think most of the Libertarians did not want to vote for Romney anyway, so if anything it may take just a tiny bit away from Romney, but not anything noticeable
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On September 05 2012 11:51 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take?
I don't think it will hurt either specifically. Paul might pull some of the stoner/young people from Obama and might pull some Tea Party support from Romney.
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On September 05 2012 11:53 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:51 Doraemon wrote:On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take? I think most of the Libertarians did not want to vote for Romney anyway, so if anything it may take just a tiny bit away from Romney, but not anything noticeable
Last piece I read Johnson could take away as much as 70 electoral votes.
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On September 05 2012 11:53 screamingpalm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:50 natrus wrote:On September 05 2012 11:48 screamingpalm wrote:
I really detest all these bootstrapping stories of American exceptionalism. "That's what it means to be a man". Fuck you Michelle... try having a debilitating sleep disorder, something you have no control over and see if you can still roll up your sleeves and "be a man". REALLY pissed me the fuck off. Sure its not something else bothering you? Got a little hate in ya? Yes. Lots of hate. Try going through life unable to wake up on a normal schedule, doctors with no idea of the cause, and socirty calling you lazy and admiring people able to overcome odds with other physical disabilities that a person has a fighting chance with, and the guilt that comes with everyone calling you lazy. I'm bitter, yeah.
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
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On September 05 2012 11:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Think it is safe to say that the first day of the DNC has been more enthusiastic than the full convention of the RNC.
its been good. but a bit underwhelming.
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On September 05 2012 11:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:53 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:51 Doraemon wrote:On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take? I think most of the Libertarians did not want to vote for Romney anyway, so if anything it may take just a tiny bit away from Romney, but not anything noticeable Last piece I read Johnson could take away as much as 70 electoral votes.
Really? Where?
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On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. At least then I could make a conscious effort to fight.
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not a terrible speech by michelle obama, but i feel like it's somewhat irrelevant. people already like barack obama as a person, and they already believe that he's a good family man. that perception isn't his problem. with ann romney it was different because people didn't like romney as a person.
so, it's a good speech, but i don't think it has much political value at all. (not that ann romney's had much value either)
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There is a lot of "four more years" chanting, but the democrats haven't done very much to make a case for it yet. Yes, it's early in the convention, and really, Barack is going to have make the case for himself. Still, there's some 'splaining to do. The burden is really on Obama to make a case for why Americans should vote for him again because this election is a referendum on him.
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On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb.
There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word.
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On September 05 2012 11:56 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Think it is safe to say that the first day of the DNC has been more enthusiastic than the full convention of the RNC. its been good. but a bit underwhelming.
how is it underwhelming? i mean some speeches were eh but most of been pretty damn good IMO
just wondering what you would of like to of seen that you arnt
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On September 05 2012 11:40 CajunMan wrote:https://store.barackobama.com/checkout/onepage/I don't know what further steps you must take but on the bottom of the checkout you have to agree you are a citizen and all that good stuff here is a quote of it. Show nested quote +Legal Compliance
You have confirmed that the following statements are true and accurate:
I am a United States citizen or a lawfully admitted permanent resident of the United States.
This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
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I am not a minor under the age of 16.
The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.
Ah, you have to claim it is legal but that doesn't mean you can't simply lie.
First link found - don't know anything about the site or if things changed.
At least not validating credit card addresses is consistent with not requiring ID to cast votes.
Did people in this thread talk about the studies that illegal votes got Al Franken into the Senate and that almost 200k black voters in Milwaukee seem to have never existed at all?
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On September 05 2012 11:57 ey215 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 05 2012 11:53 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:51 Doraemon wrote:On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take? I think most of the Libertarians did not want to vote for Romney anyway, so if anything it may take just a tiny bit away from Romney, but not anything noticeable Last piece I read Johnson could take away as much as 70 electoral votes. Really? Where?
Believe it is on the LP website also Google news about Johnson polling data. The RNC snubbing delegates and rushing rule changes might come back and haunt the GOP for years.
Sorry typing from a Nexus 7 and have no clue how to paste a link.
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I don't see how anybody could like the Romneys more than the Obamas, on a personal level.
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On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word.
transsexuals? Seriously?
Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness.
No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective...
I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you.
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Michelle did great. Probably the best speech so far from either convention, just in terms of being personable.
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On September 05 2012 12:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:57 ey215 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 05 2012 11:53 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:51 Doraemon wrote:On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote:
i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take? I think most of the Libertarians did not want to vote for Romney anyway, so if anything it may take just a tiny bit away from Romney, but not anything noticeable Last piece I read Johnson could take away as much as 70 electoral votes. Really? Where? Believe it is on the LP website also Google news about Johnson polling data. The RNC snubbing delegates and rushing rule changes might come back and haunt the GOP for years. Sorry typing from a Nexus 7 and have no clue how to paste a link.
Ah, by "take away" I thought you meant he'd actually win states. I see that you meant move the state to Obama by siphoning votes from Romney. That makes more sense.
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On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word.
Even they have more support and empathy than someone with idiopathic hypersomnia. I'd again, rather be in their shoes. You have no idea how harsh it is for someone with a sleeping disorder of which is "idiopathic" and has absolutely no control of it. To compare it to "stuttering" is absolutely outrageous, but I don't expect anything different from society.
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