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dat seperation of church and state.
ah well, not nearly as appalling as the RNC so it's hard to complain.
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On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you.
Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large.
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On September 05 2012 12:02 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 11:56 a176 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Think it is safe to say that the first day of the DNC has been more enthusiastic than the full convention of the RNC. its been good. but a bit underwhelming. how is it underwhelming? i mean some speeches were eh but most of been pretty damn good IMO just wondering what you would of like to of seen that you arnt
i think there was a bit too much obama pandering
as another post said, people already obama
would have been a good opprotunity to sell more of the platform
but then they're probably going to do all that tomorrow+thurs
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Tomorrow is the time to watch as the man himself will be speaking and by the man I mean Bill Clinton.
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On September 05 2012 12:12 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:02 Deathmanbob wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 a176 wrote:On September 05 2012 11:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Think it is safe to say that the first day of the DNC has been more enthusiastic than the full convention of the RNC. its been good. but a bit underwhelming. how is it underwhelming? i mean some speeches were eh but most of been pretty damn good IMO just wondering what you would of like to of seen that you arnt i think there was a bit too much obama pandering as another post said, people already obama would have been a good opprotunity to sell more of the platform but then they're probably going to do all that tomorrow+thurs
Being a relatively fractured party, Obama is probably the only thing more than 75% of them can get behind.
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On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large.
Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken.
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On September 05 2012 12:04 aksfjh wrote:
I don't see how anybody could like the Romneys more than the Obamas, on a personal level.
I freely admit Romney makes me feel bad for not being more hard-working and successful and active with charity. Obama makes me feel great about spending all day watching and playing StarCraft.
I seriously considered taking Pelosi's advice to quit my job, let the government take care of me, and try to go pro.
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Michelle Obama absolutely killed it. That will probably be the best speech of either convention.
She sold Barack, it's up to Barack to sell his policies.
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On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken.
Absolutely not, my cousin is a speech therapist and I've witnessed first hand how stuttering can prove to be a tremendous obstacle in life and can be totally out of the control of the speaker. What I am suggesting is the relative uselessness of thinking ones' own situation amongst the worst possible, because just as there is always a bigger fish, there is always someone with a shittier life.
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On September 05 2012 12:17 dvorakftw wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:04 aksfjh wrote:
I don't see how anybody could like the Romneys more than the Obamas, on a personal level. I freely admit Romney makes me feel bad for not being more hard-working and successful and active with charity. Obama makes me feel great about spending all day watching and playing StarCraft. I seriously considered taking Pelosi's advice to quit my job, let the government take care of me, and try to go pro.
So you're blaming Obama for YOUR laziness.
And you consider yourself a conservative. Puh-leese.
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On September 05 2012 12:18 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken. Absolutely not, my cousin is a speech therapist and I've witnessed first hand how stuttering can prove to be a tremendous obstacle in life and can be totally out of the control of the speaker. What I am suggesting is the relative uselessness of thinking ones' own situation amongst the worst possible, because just as there is always a bigger fish, there is always someone with a shittier life.
Yep. Just ask Obama's half-brother.
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On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken.
I am saying that stuttering does not prevent you from particpating in normal daily life. Does it prevent you from waking up on time to get to work? Does it cause you to spen half your life (at minimum) asleep? It is nowhere close to being on the level of having hypersomnia. I had thought that there were ways to rehabilitate stuttering, if not I apologize, but I don't think it leaves you as unable to hold a job or prevent you from getting to college classes like hypersomnia does. Not to mention the stygma of being seen as lazy.
I can think of no other disability that I wouldn't RATHER have than this.
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On September 05 2012 12:23 screamingpalm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken. I am saying that stuttering does not prevent you from particpating in normal daily life. Does it prevent you from waking up on time to get to work? Does it cause you to spen half your life (at minimum) asleep? It is nowhere close to being on the level of having hypersomnia. I had thought that there were ways to rehabilitate stuttering, if not I apologize, but I don't think it leaves you as unable to hold a job or prevent you from getting to college classes like hypersomnia does. Not to mention the stygma of being seen as lazy.
Guys, don't try to argue about whose life sucks more. Hypersomnia and a speech impediment both suck.
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On September 05 2012 12:19 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:17 dvorakftw wrote:On September 05 2012 12:04 aksfjh wrote:
I don't see how anybody could like the Romneys more than the Obamas, on a personal level. I freely admit Romney makes me feel bad for not being more hard-working and successful and active with charity. Obama makes me feel great about spending all day watching and playing StarCraft. I seriously considered taking Pelosi's advice to quit my job, let the government take care of me, and try to go pro. So you're blaming Obama for YOUR laziness. And you consider yourself a conservative. Puh-leese.
Read better, please. I only said when I considered his example I don't feel bad for my bad habits. As for my laziness, like Obama with all his problems, I blame Bush.
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On September 05 2012 12:25 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:23 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken. I am saying that stuttering does not prevent you from particpating in normal daily life. Does it prevent you from waking up on time to get to work? Does it cause you to spen half your life (at minimum) asleep? It is nowhere close to being on the level of having hypersomnia. I had thought that there were ways to rehabilitate stuttering, if not I apologize, but I don't think it leaves you as unable to hold a job or prevent you from getting to college classes like hypersomnia does. Not to mention the stygma of being seen as lazy. Guys, don't try to argue about whose life sucks more. Hypersomnia and a speech impediment both suck.
Better yet, take it elsewhere. No one else is really interested.
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On September 05 2012 12:22 dvorakftw wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:18 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken. Absolutely not, my cousin is a speech therapist and I've witnessed first hand how stuttering can prove to be a tremendous obstacle in life and can be totally out of the control of the speaker. What I am suggesting is the relative uselessness of thinking ones' own situation amongst the worst possible, because just as there is always a bigger fish, there is always someone with a shittier life. Yep. Just ask Obama's half-brother.
In later interviews George contradicted this picture. In an interview with The Times, he "said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum."[121] He told The Times, "Life in Huruma is good." George Obama said that he expects no favors, that he was supported by relatives, and that reports he lived on a dollar a month were "all lies by people who don't want my brother to win."[121] He told The Telegraph that he was inspired by his half-brother.[120] According to Time, George "has repeatedly denied…that he feels abandoned by Obama."[125] CNN quoted him as saying, "I was brought up well. I live well even now. The magazines, they have exaggerated everything… I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges."
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On September 05 2012 12:23 screamingpalm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 12:15 natrus wrote:On September 05 2012 12:11 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 12:06 Tula wrote:On September 05 2012 12:01 farvacola wrote:On September 05 2012 11:58 screamingpalm wrote:On September 05 2012 11:56 natrus wrote:
Well actually I have a moderate to severe stuttering problem. So what should i try to do?Try and get some perspective. Other people have worse problems then you and me.
There is no bigger curse than having hypersomnia or narcolepsy in this society. I'd rather be missing a limb. There are transsexuals and epileptics amongst many others that would like to have a word. transsexuals? Seriously? Honestly i disagree with both of you. Hypersomnia or narcolepsy can be a big a problem, but there honestly is no comparing between illnesses. A good friend of mine has epilepsy and manages fine in his daily life (with severe restrictions granted, but he has learned to deal) his elder brother died in a fit 15 years ago from the same illness. No matter what you personally have, saying it's the biggest curse possible is hyperbole at best. Yes it might very well be a delibating illness (for you), which currently cannot be treated, but the list of such is longer than this thread. So let's keep some perspective... I'd agree with screamingpalm that those speeches can be highly annoying if you are afflicted with any illness beyond your control, but there is very little unloading that hate on us can achieve for you. Hence why I said "amongst many others", the fact of the matter is that an assumption that one's individual plight is absolutely worse than the majority of others requires perspective that no person can possibly have. It is simply impossible to know such a thing, and is concordantly a poor way of judging society at large. Are you implying that I have control over my speech? If so, you are mistaken. I am saying that stuttering does not prevent you from particpating in normal daily life. Does it prevent you from waking up on time to get to work? Does it cause you to spen half your life (at minimum) asleep? It is nowhere close to being on the level of having hypersomnia. I had thought that there were ways to rehabilitate stuttering, if not I apologize, but I don't think it leaves you as unable to hold a job or prevent you from getting to college classes like hypersomnia does. Not to mention the stygma of being seen as lazy. I can think of no other disability that I wouldn't RATHER have than this.
American culture fetishizes eloquence, gregariousness and just the general ability to speak well.
It would absolutely put a ceiling on your opportunities. Sad but true.
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On September 05 2012 12:25 Defacer wrote:
Guys, don't try to argue about whose life sucks more. Hypersomnia and a speech impediment both suck.
I gotta go with the sleep problem over the talking problem.
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On September 05 2012 12:27 Defacer wrote:
American culture fetishizes eloquence, gregariousness and just the general ability to speak well.
It would absolutely put a ceiling on your opportunities. Sad but true.
Again, difference is between a ceiling and preventing opportunity altogether. I'd jump at the chance to have a ceiling at this point.
On September 05 2012 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
Better yet, take it elsewhere. No one else is really interested.
Exactly right... and my apologies, Believe me when I can say that no one gives a shit. Back to your regularly scheduled dosage of American exceptionalism.
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