In later interviews George contradicted this picture. In an interview with The Times, he "said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum."[121] He told The Times, "Life in Huruma is good." George Obama said that he expects no favors, that he was supported by relatives, and that reports he lived on a dollar a month were "all lies by people who don't want my brother to win."[121] He told The Telegraph that he was inspired by his half-brother.[120] According to Time, George "has repeatedly denied…that he feels abandoned by Obama."[125] CNN quoted him as saying, "I was brought up well. I live well even now. The magazines, they have exaggerated everything… I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges."
A few days ago I received a call from a man I recently met named George. He was a bit flustered, and soon informed me that his young son was sick with a chest condition. He pleaded with me to send him $1,000 to cover the medical bills. Since George was at the hospital I asked him to let me speak to a nurse, and she confirmed that George’s son was indeed ill. So I agreed to send George the money through Western Union. He was profusely grateful. But before I hung up I asked George, “Why are you coming to me?” He said, “I have no one else to ask.”
In later interviews George contradicted this picture. In an interview with The Times, he "said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum."[121] He told The Times, "Life in Huruma is good." George Obama said that he expects no favors, that he was supported by relatives, and that reports he lived on a dollar a month were "all lies by people who don't want my brother to win."[121] He told The Telegraph that he was inspired by his half-brother.[120] According to Time, George "has repeatedly denied…that he feels abandoned by Obama."[125] CNN quoted him as saying, "I was brought up well. I live well even now. The magazines, they have exaggerated everything… I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges."
A few days ago I received a call from a man I recently met named George. He was a bit flustered, and soon informed me that his young son was sick with a chest condition. He pleaded with me to send him $1,000 to cover the medical bills. Since George was at the hospital I asked him to let me speak to a nurse, and she confirmed that George’s son was indeed ill. So I agreed to send George the money through Western Union. He was profusely grateful. But before I hung up I asked George, “Why are you coming to me?” He said, “I have no one else to ask.”
That was good of him. There must be quite a few foreigners who have medical issues which can be attested to over the phone by nurses, does he mean to help all of them or just the ones he can use to embarrass the president?
On September 05 2012 12:01 xDaunt wrote: There is a lot of "four more years" chanting, but the democrats haven't done very much to make a case for it yet. Yes, it's early in the convention, and really, Barack is going to have make the case for himself. Still, there's some 'splaining to do. The burden is really on Obama to make a case for why Americans should vote for him again because this election is a referendum on him.
I agree with you to a certain extent but if you saw Julian Castro's speech you would know what Obama's policy accomplishments are and after Michelle's then you would know what makes Barack such an awesome fellow.
Most non-Right Wing type people will be very persuaded so far IMHO.
I am telling you guys Democrats as the main audience are through the roof with happiness this convention and if it keeps on this way will ensure that nearly everyone who voted for Obama would do it again.
In later interviews George contradicted this picture. In an interview with The Times, he "said that he was furious at subsequent reports that he had been abandoned by the Obama family and that he was filled with shame about living in a slum."[121] He told The Times, "Life in Huruma is good." George Obama said that he expects no favors, that he was supported by relatives, and that reports he lived on a dollar a month were "all lies by people who don't want my brother to win."[121] He told The Telegraph that he was inspired by his half-brother.[120] According to Time, George "has repeatedly denied…that he feels abandoned by Obama."[125] CNN quoted him as saying, "I was brought up well. I live well even now. The magazines, they have exaggerated everything… I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges."
A few days ago I received a call from a man I recently met named George. He was a bit flustered, and soon informed me that his young son was sick with a chest condition. He pleaded with me to send him $1,000 to cover the medical bills. Since George was at the hospital I asked him to let me speak to a nurse, and she confirmed that George’s son was indeed ill. So I agreed to send George the money through Western Union. He was profusely grateful. But before I hung up I asked George, “Why are you coming to me?” He said, “I have no one else to ask.”
That was good of him. There must be quite a few foreigners who have medical issues which can be attested to over the phone by nurses, does he mean to help all of them or just the ones he can use to embarrass the president?
As I understand the basics of charity, you help the people you can. Embarrassing people who justify government being your doctor by talking about "brother's keepers" is just good karma.
All of which isn't to say government has no role in health care, but the guidelines should always be how does this lower costs and make care better? And by lower cost I don't mean "I get it free now because someone else's tax dollars bought it for me!"
On September 05 2012 12:01 xDaunt wrote: There is a lot of "four more years" chanting, but the democrats haven't done very much to make a case for it yet. Yes, it's early in the convention, and really, Barack is going to have make the case for himself. Still, there's some 'splaining to do. The burden is really on Obama to make a case for why Americans should vote for him again because this election is a referendum on him.
I agree with you to a certain extent but if you saw Julian Castro's speech you would know what Obama's policy accomplishments are and after Michelle's then you would know what makes Barack such an awesome fellow.
Most non-Right Wing type people will be very persuaded so far IMHO.
I am telling you guys Democrats as the main audience are through the roof with happiness this convention and if it keeps on this way will ensure that nearly everyone who voted for Obama would do it again.
I don't think you can find a single poll in the last two years that suggested Obama will get more votes this election than he did in 2008 and I would bet you won't see any after the convention.
Unemployment report comes out day after Obama's big speech praising himself so he can claim whatever he wants but Americans are pretty tired of over 8% unemployment and if the Democrats who attacked Bush for the economy in 2004 that are all for Obama now had any shame you would half to replace at least 80% of them.
On September 05 2012 13:11 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:01 xDaunt wrote: There is a lot of "four more years" chanting, but the democrats haven't done very much to make a case for it yet. Yes, it's early in the convention, and really, Barack is going to have make the case for himself. Still, there's some 'splaining to do. The burden is really on Obama to make a case for why Americans should vote for him again because this election is a referendum on him.
I agree with you to a certain extent but if you saw Julian Castro's speech you would know what Obama's policy accomplishments are and after Michelle's then you would know what makes Barack such an awesome fellow.
Most non-Right Wing type people will be very persuaded so far IMHO.
I am telling you guys Democrats as the main audience are through the roof with happiness this convention and if it keeps on this way will ensure that nearly everyone who voted for Obama would do it again.
I don't think you can find a single poll in the last two years that suggested Obama will get more votes this election than he did in 2008 and I would bet you won't see any after the convention.
Unemployment report comes out day after Obama's big speech praising himself so he can claim whatever he wants but Americans are pretty tired of over 8% unemployment and if the Democrats who attacked Bush for the economy in 2004 that are all for Obama now had any shame you would half to replace at least 80% of them.
The economy would probably do better under Romney. I agree 100%. Still voting Obama. Can't let the country slide into a social shithole just so I can be a little wealthier. I don't need any more money, I'm happy with what I have.
Edit: I also don't like big government, which is unfortunately what the Republican Party stands for these days :/
Vote libertarian then! No. Romney can't get elected. Vote Obama.
On September 05 2012 13:44 Risen wrote: The economy would probably do better under Romney. I agree 100%. Still voting Obama. Can't let the country slide into a social shithole just so I can be a little wealthier. I don't need any more money, I'm happy with what I have.
Edit: I also don't like big government, which is unfortunately what the Republican Party stands for these days :/
Vote libertarian then! No. Romney can't get elected. Vote Obama.
A better economy doesn't mean just you are wealthier but everyone else (on average) is too. And you are against big government and Republicans are big government so instead you will vote for the even bigger government people?
On September 05 2012 13:44 Risen wrote: The economy would probably do better under Romney. I agree 100%. Still voting Obama. Can't let the country slide into a social shithole just so I can be a little wealthier. I don't need any more money, I'm happy with what I have.
Edit: I also don't like big government, which is unfortunately what the Republican Party stands for these days :/
Vote libertarian then! No. Romney can't get elected. Vote Obama.
A better economy doesn't mean just you are wealthier but everyone else (on average) is too. And you are against big government and Republicans are big government so instead you will vote for the even bigger government people?
You're entitled to think the Democratic Party is the "big government" party. I disagree. One party wants to limit civil liberties and poke around in people's personal lives. The other wants to increase taxes, increase civil liberties, stay out of people's personal lives.
If larger taxes means "bigger government" to you, sweet. To me, bigger government refers to the one who doesn't want to leave you alone. That's the republican party.
Democrats want money for their social programs that will increase the poor's standard of living, I'll give them more money. I pay pitifully low taxes compared to people around the world, so why should I care? Flat tax, progressive tax, who cares?
Edit: I'll expand a little on my viewpoint. The Republican Party is increasingly the morality police of the United States. I don't give a shit about anyone's actions so long as they don't affect anyone else. Republicans can't help but try and force their views on everyone else when they're in charge of government. There is no compromising with them, they're God's Warriors.
On September 05 2012 12:01 xDaunt wrote: There is a lot of "four more years" chanting, but the democrats haven't done very much to make a case for it yet. Yes, it's early in the convention, and really, Barack is going to have make the case for himself. Still, there's some 'splaining to do. The burden is really on Obama to make a case for why Americans should vote for him again because this election is a referendum on him.
I agree with you to a certain extent but if you saw Julian Castro's speech you would know what Obama's policy accomplishments are and after Michelle's then you would know what makes Barack such an awesome fellow.
Most non-Right Wing type people will be very persuaded so far IMHO.
I am telling you guys Democrats as the main audience are through the roof with happiness this convention and if it keeps on this way will ensure that nearly everyone who voted for Obama would do it again.
No, the speeches that were given tonight were not enough. They were good speeches with good, soaring rhetoric, but that is not enough for democrats in this election. Here is the reality: nothing said at his convention will capture the hearts and minds of voters like what happened in 2008. Everyone has seen this dog and pony show before. The voters who are up for grabs want real answers to questions that they have. Obama must present a plan for moving forward that voters will accept. He also has to provide a good explanation for why he has disappointed everyone so far.
I personally think that he's facing a very uphill battle.
On September 05 2012 13:11 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:01 xDaunt wrote: There is a lot of "four more years" chanting, but the democrats haven't done very much to make a case for it yet. Yes, it's early in the convention, and really, Barack is going to have make the case for himself. Still, there's some 'splaining to do. The burden is really on Obama to make a case for why Americans should vote for him again because this election is a referendum on him.
I agree with you to a certain extent but if you saw Julian Castro's speech you would know what Obama's policy accomplishments are and after Michelle's then you would know what makes Barack such an awesome fellow.
Most non-Right Wing type people will be very persuaded so far IMHO.
I am telling you guys Democrats as the main audience are through the roof with happiness this convention and if it keeps on this way will ensure that nearly everyone who voted for Obama would do it again.
No, the speeches that were given tonight were not enough. They were good speeches with good, soaring rhetoric, but that is not enough for democrats in this election. Here is the reality: nothing said at his convention will capture the hearts and minds of voters like what happened in 2008. Everyone has seen this dog and pony show before. The voters who are up for grabs want real answers to questions that they have. Obama must present a plan for moving forward that voters will accept. He also has to provide a good explanation for why he has disappointed everyone so far.
I personally think that he's facing a very uphill battle.
But you're worried Republicans won't... let you get an abortion? Marry a dude? Democrats are in your life from before conception and long past death.
Err, did you mean to post some different figures? The only significant thing those two show is that the Bush administration was horrifyingly bad for the US economy. Doesn't really do anything to back up your hyperbole.
But you're worried Republicans won't... let you get an abortion? Marry a dude? Democrats are in your life from before conception and long past death.
Err, did you mean to post some different figures? The only significant thing those two show is that the Bush administration was horrifyingly bad for the US economy. Doesn't really do anything to back up your hyperbole.
This is a good example of why I don't care about "respect" around here. Trillions in debt and government taking over GDP and all he can see is "Bush bad"...
But you're worried Republicans won't... let you get an abortion? Marry a dude? Democrats are in your life from before conception and long past death.
If you had read the entire post you would note that I don't care about a government that is larger in the physical sense of spending. I care about a government that intrudes on my rights more than anything else.
I don't want to marry a man, but who is the government to tell me I can't? I will never support an abortion, but who am I to stop someone else from doing to their body what they want? I will never shoot up heroin, cocaine, etc, but what gives the government to interfere in the choices of those people?
Stay the fuck out of my life, government. I'll pay your taxes and you can do whatever, but stay out of my personal life or I'm not voting for you.
But you're worried Republicans won't... let you get an abortion? Marry a dude? Democrats are in your life from before conception and long past death.
Err, did you mean to post some different figures? The only significant thing those two show is that the Bush administration was horrifyingly bad for the US economy. Doesn't really do anything to back up your hyperbole.
This is a good example of why I don't care about "respect" around here. Trillions in debt and government taking over GDP and all he can see is "Bush bad"...
Whatever.
What were you expecting when you posted graphs showing a spike during Republican presidency years? Regardless, I side with Republicans on economics. As I said, though, you're not getting my vote if you try to control my life.
We belong to the government. Hooray for the party of leaving us alone. Just let them take as much money as they want and live life by their rules and you are left alone!
btw Obama is going around saying Republicans believe you are on your own and Democrats say we're all in this together so maybe you want to work on co-ordination of your talking points.
My talking points? Dude I don't listen to what politicians say, I look at what they DO. It's fine if you want to bash on a video that's clearly trying to instill a sense of patriotism simply b/c it was made by the Dems. Their actions have led me to believe Republicans want to fuck with my privacy.
Guess what doesn't fuck with my privacy, paying more taxes for welfare/health care/whatever the fuck they wanna do with it, allowing women to have abortions, allowing the use of drugs, letting gays get married.
If you'd like to come in here and explain yourself eloquently please do so, but all I'm seeing from you is rhetoric.
Edit: Also, I'm totally a "FUCK YEAH, USA!" kind of guy. So bashing a video that tries to bring people together by declaring that the one thing that unites us is that we're all Americans isn't likely to do the trick.
On September 05 2012 15:16 Velr wrote: Wasn't Romneys rise in score after the Republican congress like the absolutely worst in history? Afaik the candidates peak after this week.
If history tells anything, Romney will melt.
I think there's a lot of people who will say they're voting Obama then will vote Romney. I believe the US has a lot of people who don't want to seem like bad guys and will answer polls supporting equal rights and such, but will then be selfish when going to the actual voting booth.
EPT
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