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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
September 05 2012 02:19 GMT
#8241
Holy shit I love this guy.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
StormShield24
Profile Joined March 2011
United States32 Posts
September 05 2012 02:19 GMT
#8242
The rest of the world will regret it if Obama wins. We won't have a military or economy to save their asses............ again.
"You just got slaughtered by a guy who's talking like Dr. Seuss. Its cool, it happens." -Day[9]
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
September 05 2012 02:20 GMT
#8243
On September 05 2012 11:19 Defacer wrote:
Haha, that line about borrowing money from your parents was funny.


Not funny for me... reality. All of my sleep studies were paid for by my father. Embarassing tbh.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 05 2012 02:20 GMT
#8244
Purely out of curiosity...

What's the percentage of "entrenched" voters in the US? By that, I mean what percentage would vote Democrat or Republican regardless of who was actually running for their respective party?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#8245
On September 05 2012 11:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Purely out of curiosity...

What's the percentage of "entrenched" voters in the US? By that, I mean what percentage would vote Democrat or Republican regardless of who was actually running for their respective party?

85-90%
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
September 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#8246
On September 05 2012 11:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Purely out of curiosity...

What's the percentage of "entrenched" voters in the US? By that, I mean what percentage would vote Democrat or Republican regardless of who was actually running for their respective party?


Traditionally, about 1/3 of the electorate will vote the party line of either party.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
September 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#8247
On September 05 2012 10:49 CajunMan wrote:
a woman who screams sexual harassment to get anywhere in the military


If this is referring to Tammy Duckworth, go **** yourself, but really, go **** yourself no matter who it's referring to. I love how some people on the right-wing will just shit all over someone who has served and sacrificed for their country if their political views don't jive with theirs.

Seriously, who are you referring to? Because Tammy Duckworth is the only military woman I remember speaking tonight, and she has never claimed sexual harassment towards herself, ever.

Rather than give out baseless and nameless insults, try illuminating us with your brilliant insight.
Big water
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
September 05 2012 02:23 GMT
#8248
On September 05 2012 11:14 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:45 Funnytoss wrote:
It's fairly simple - insurance companies believe women cost more to insure. In a sense, this can be true, if they take into account potential risk factors such as pregnancy. Whether or not this is a fair practice, and whether or not it should be banned, is another question altogether. I think it's fairly plausible that they did this - it's similar to "pre-existing conditions", except in this case the pre-existing condition referred to is being a woman. Companies are in it for the money, and as such, they want to insure people least likely to actually need insurance. It simply isn't good business to insure someone that's likely to actually need it. Obviously, this goes against the very point of insurance, but when it's for-profit, that's the way you have to do it.

By that logic life insurance companies only want immortals for customers.

You are correct however that since the concept of insurance is tied to risk in a sane business model, it doesn't make much sense to force the companies to act as a discount service of taking money from young healthy people to pay for known regular costs such as Sandra Fluke's contraceptives.


This is pretty much why every other industrialized nation has some form of universal health care. It's just really hard to run health insurance as a business, because the incentives *not* to cover someone are too strong. And yes, life insurance companies really do prefer to insure customers that are likely to live for an extremely long time, paying into it longer than someone who croaks at 45.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
September 05 2012 02:24 GMT
#8249
On September 05 2012 11:19 StormShield24 wrote:
The rest of the world will regret it if Obama wins. We won't have a military or economy to save their asses............ again.


As far as I know, under Obama our military budget is still pretty much as large as the rest of the world put together. You *really* think he's able to reduce everything to the point of being unable to project military power abroad?
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 05 2012 02:26 GMT
#8250
On September 05 2012 11:22 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 11:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Purely out of curiosity...

What's the percentage of "entrenched" voters in the US? By that, I mean what percentage would vote Democrat or Republican regardless of who was actually running for their respective party?

85-90%

Wow, that seems on the extreme end of things.

Of course, I'm not sure what the numbers are in Canada...could be very similar.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
September 05 2012 02:26 GMT
#8251
On September 05 2012 10:49 Defacer wrote:

The difference between car insurance and health insurance is that people can choose to not own a car.


That and a few thousand pages of tax code and mostly terrible and unnecessary regulations. Democrats have all but literally said they won't allow out of state health insurance policies because then young people will buy cheaper policies that met their needs instead of paying for a lot of stuff they don't need and thereby putting enough money into the system.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
September 05 2012 02:28 GMT
#8252
Canada gets Tommy Douglas, we get Jack Bauer... life's not fair.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 05 2012 02:28 GMT
#8253
Really slick speech. Hit a lot of key points without being obnoxious about it.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
September 05 2012 02:28 GMT
#8254
On September 05 2012 10:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:45 dvorakftw wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:36 Funnytoss wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:35 dvorakftw wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:23 screamingpalm wrote:
Under Obamacare, not everyone will be covered... I think fact checkers might have something to say about that claim.

What makes you think they care about facts rather than regurgitating liberal spin?


Did you learn *anything* at all from your temp ban? O_o

Yeah, I learned there were several people who conspire to report me for stuff that the other side does on a regular basis. Several of them got warnings this time because I had not been reporting their insults previously but if they continue we can expect to see them banned!

Take it from someone who is generally on your side: you need to clean up your posts.

Dude, you play your game. I play mine.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 05 2012 02:28 GMT
#8255
Not a bad speech for the kid. He needs some polish, but very impressive.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
September 05 2012 02:30 GMT
#8256
On September 05 2012 11:22 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:49 CajunMan wrote:
a woman who screams sexual harassment to get anywhere in the military


If this is referring to Tammy Duckworth, go **** yourself, but really, go **** yourself no matter who it's referring to. I love how some people on the right-wing will just shit all over someone who has served and sacrificed for their country if their political views don't jive with theirs.

Seriously, who are you referring to? Because Tammy Duckworth is the only military woman I remember speaking tonight, and she has never claimed sexual harassment towards herself, ever.

Rather than give out baseless and nameless insults, try illuminating us with your brilliant insight.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Kennedy
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
September 05 2012 02:30 GMT
#8257
On September 05 2012 11:28 xDaunt wrote:
Not a bad speech for the kid. He needs some polish, but very impressive.


The part where he got the crowd finishing his lines and then corrected them was a nice piece of speech craft.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 05 2012 02:31 GMT
#8258
Think it is safe to say that the first day of the DNC has been more enthusiastic than the full convention of the RNC.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11595 Posts
September 05 2012 02:31 GMT
#8259
On September 05 2012 11:30 ey215 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 11:28 xDaunt wrote:
Not a bad speech for the kid. He needs some polish, but very impressive.


The part where he got the crowd finishing his lines and then corrected them was a nice piece of speech craft.

That was a clever bit of work for sure.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
September 05 2012 02:31 GMT
#8260
On September 05 2012 11:01 CajunMan wrote:
Also funny aside you cannot enter or get close to the DNC without an ID or buy many of the Obama products from the campaign without proof of citizenship because it is a campaign contribution. MOOOOOMMMMMM THE IRONY IT HURTS I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY LONGER MY SIDES OOOO OWWWW

Are you sure on that last part? Last I heard they still had the address verification disabled like they did 4 years ago so anywhere from any country could give as much money as they wanted . Hillary's campaign got busted from a few people making false max contributions through multiple people but the no check credit card system bypassed it.
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