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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:58 jdseemoreglass wrote: The straw man king. Good thing for me we weren't talking about roads or bridges, we were talking about corporate bail outs. had you qualified your statement in some way this reply would have been ok. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:57 Rassy wrote: It was obama who changed the campaign financing. There used to be state funding for the campaigns, and both candidates got to spend the same relativly small amount. Then obama thought (rightfully) that he could get more monney from donations and since then the monney spend on the campaign has gone up to 6b now according to cnn. He saw get Kerry swiftboated by outside groups with practically unlimited money and said that shit wasn't going to happen to him by being hamstrung by only taking federal funding. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:58 Romantic wrote: You know it is more complicated than that. I am not going to debate here the virtue of using the taxpayer's credit card to bail out specific failing businesses here. There is no reason not to bailout if: 1. There is a large ecology that is dependent on the auto industry, which will collapse if the auto industry collapses. 2. The industry is sustainable in the long run, having mostly short run cash flow problems. Both conditions are satisfied for the auto industry, there is no reason not to bailout. The bailout was good for Ohio, and it was good for the country. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Just out of curiosity, if Romney were to get the upset in PA, but Obama took both OH and FL, would it even matter that Romney took PA at all? I think PA has 21 electoral votes, OH has 20, and FL has 27, so they're all relatively close to one another... but is that extra upset enough of a boost to make it a close race again? It would basically make Obama taking OH a wash, right? And Obama would still have FL. If Obama gets FL and OH I can't imagine a situation where he doesn't win. And I'd say he has OH given his current margin. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:59 sc2superfan101 wrote: you should've seen MSNBC in 2010. shit was a graveyard. I'm just gonna say to everyone who is so sure... just wait a bit first. Naah, I feel pretty sure. If Florida is this close then Romney has pretty much lost. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
Romney's gone. Better start writing that concession speech. | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:00 dAPhREAk wrote: holy shit, the whole map went red on cnn.com. gotta love the south and midwest. Cheese us! I saw that too, dropped my beer. | ||
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Inquisitor1323
370 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:01 Adreme wrote: Michigan has just been called for Obama. Thats a shame for Romney who was catching up in that state in final weeks. It might have something to do with that little thing called the auto industry. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:01 oneofthem wrote: had you qualified your statement in some way this reply would have been ok. If you read the post I responded to a qualification would not be necessary. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
BROward CARRYING hard though | ||
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CrayonPopChoa
Canada761 Posts
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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acker
United States2958 Posts
Officially, Mr. Obama was projected to 49.797 percent of the vote there, and Mr. Romney 49.775 percent, a difference of two-hundredths of a percentage point. Silver, on Florida. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:04 ChoiSulli wrote: Im following along on CNN and if they awarded the presidency based on which color the majority of the map is covered in, Romney would already be President lol. Map looks like that every year. >_> | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:04 oneofthem wrote: i think romney will win florida based on the swing of 2 to 3% per red county. blue counties are not swinging as much compared to 08 barring huge turnouts in the miami area Broward is still only 24% reporting and it has almost 50% pro-Obama margin. It singlehandedly swung the tally 340K last time it reported in due to misreporting. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Just out of curiosity, if Romney were to get the upset in PA, but Obama took both OH and FL, would it even matter that Romney took PA at all? I think PA has 21 electoral votes, OH has 20, and FL has 27, so they're all relatively close to one another... but is that extra upset enough of a boost to make it a close race again? It would basically make Obama taking OH a wash, right? And Obama would still have FL. If Obama took FL and OH he'd be at 264 with Romney at 226 taking PA. This is including the states they should win. (NV, CO, WI, IA, VA and NH would still be up for grabs) PA has 20, OH has 18 and FL has 29. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 07 2012 11:03 jdseemoreglass wrote: If you read the post I responded to a qualification would not be necessary. the correct way to respond to that would be to say, when government spending hurts people it usually is invisible. you said something quite different. | ||
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