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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it. Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds. Nice spin there bud Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you. Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised. There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.
this is where you need to wise up with your bribes. when you bribe a billionaire it's not as effective as bribing 15m people.
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On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it. Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds. Nice spin there bud Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you. Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised. There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.
Saying a candidate "bought" a state is the least neutral phrasing I've ever seen.
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On November 07 2012 10:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
Looks like Ohio is going to Obama... when Miami Dade comes out, I think Florida will be Obama's.
Ohio is early voting only at present.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it. Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds. Nice spin there bud Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you. Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised. There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.
Doing a good job is more influential than private money - thank God!
Still not gonna rest until we get some campaign finance reform though!
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On November 07 2012 10:49 HopLight wrote:
I highly recommend democratic supporters to tune into Fox News (http://www.baqi.tv/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/) , there is a slow but sure sense of panic that is settling on the entire crew that is very enjoyable to watch.
I have to watch this. Plus if Obama wins, I can troll the RNC page for months.
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On November 07 2012 10:51 Souma wrote:
lol that's great.
He did his job -> 'HE BRIBED VOTERS!'
Is this gonna be the Republicans' new excuse if Obama wins?
You didnt hear, Republicans where calling voter fraud cause dems where giving out chilly, or maybe it was drinks. IT was some food or beverage.
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On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it. Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds. Nice spin there bud Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.
The reason why money spent on the auto bail out is helping Obama is because it helped the economy. It helped people.
So it should rightly pay off for Obama, because people really are better off.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
i'm enjoying this fox commentary by the blonde chick on the right.
"did romney not go hard enough on syria and..."
"WOMEN LOVE STRENGTH!"
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On November 07 2012 10:51 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:49 HopLight wrote:
I highly recommend democratic supporters to tune into Fox News (http://www.baqi.tv/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/) , there is a slow but sure sense of panic that is settling on the entire crew that is very enjoyable to watch. i see murdock has got some more blondes on there now.
priceless. Obama fighting!
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On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:
There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.
Of course public money is more effective than private money at influencing voters. We call spending public money to make more people happy than unhappy good governance. The government is supposed to spend public money on people to make them happy, that's why we have a bloody government.
Seriously, your neutral response is literally "Obama did a good job, that's why he's winning Ohio". I guess spending money on Medicare and Social Security is bribing old people, now.
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On November 07 2012 10:48 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:46 Deathmanbob wrote:On November 07 2012 10:45 Noonius wrote:
gonna keep it simple... who's winning? America I feel like we're 6 points down, 2nd and 9 on our own 29 yard line with 1:57 left and two timeouts.
but joe montana is our QB, we got this
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United States5162 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:54 Quintum_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:51 Souma wrote:
lol that's great.
He did his job -> 'HE BRIBED VOTERS!'
Is this gonna be the Republicans' new excuse if Obama wins? You didnt hear, Republicans where calling voter fraud cause dems where giving out chilly, or maybe it was drinks. IT was some food or beverage.
Well, to be fair I did hear about some controversy with Republicans and coffee where I live.
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On November 07 2012 10:54 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it. Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds. Nice spin there bud Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you. The reason why money spent on the auto bail out is helping Obama is because it helped the economy. It helped people. So it should rightly pay off for Obama, because people really are better off.
When government spends money, the minority it helps is obvious, the majority it hurts is hidden.
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Northern Ireland27013 Posts
On November 07 2012 10:54 oneofthem wrote:
i'm enjoying this fox commentary by the blonde chick on the right.
"did romney not go hard enough on syria and..."
"WOMEN LOVE STRENGTH!"
But I thought women liked compromise and proper debate! See that line every debate because apparently women don't like to see aggression
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Interestingly, the early numbers in PA don't seem quite powerful enough for Romney to pull off his upset there. Though, of course, it's only 1%; the urban margins just seem to big for Obama.
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On November 07 2012 10:49 HopLight wrote:
I highly recommend democratic supporters to tune into Fox News (http://www.baqi.tv/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/) , there is a slow but sure sense of panic that is settling on the entire crew that is very enjoyable to watch.
Just tuned in. They sound SO sure that Romney is going to win.
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On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.
That's how politics works. It's not just direct transfers like auto-bailouts, social security payments or tax legislation, but more subtle issues like environmental standards or IP legislation or even the level of defense spending. Almost all decisions benefit someone financially.
There's nothing surprising in people rewarding politicians who benefit them and punishing those that hurt them. This is how politics has worked for hundreds of years. There's a thin layer of ideology on top, that people used to justify their self-interest to a wider audience (or at least shield themselves from moral outrage to some level).
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On November 07 2012 10:55 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 10:54 Quintum_ wrote:On November 07 2012 10:51 Souma wrote:
lol that's great.
He did his job -> 'HE BRIBED VOTERS!'
Is this gonna be the Republicans' new excuse if Obama wins? You didnt hear, Republicans where calling voter fraud cause dems where giving out chilly, or maybe it was drinks. IT was some food or beverage. Well, to be fair I did hear about some controversy with Republicans and coffee where I live.
why the fuck didnt i get some bribes... thats whats pissing me off... some jamba juice would have been nice.
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Next polls close in under 4 minutes!
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On November 07 2012 10:49 HopLight wrote:
I highly recommend democratic supporters to tune into Fox News (http://www.baqi.tv/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/) , there is a slow but sure sense of panic that is settling on the entire crew that is very enjoyable to watch.
LOL thank you so so so so much...they mad...im german but i followed the campaign a lot. i just naturally have to hate fox news...i just have to...i dont have 100% insight in all of the daily politics over there but every time i see something from fox news it just seems total BS and i get really angry...why is that?! it doesnt even concern me yet i feel personally offended :D
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