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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
November 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#25321
On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised.


There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.

You were the one making accusations about buying an election with public money. Zealotdriver just shot you down. No need to be bitter about it.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
November 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#25322
On November 07 2012 10:53 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised.


There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.


Doing a good job is more influential than private money - thank God!

Still not gonna rest until we get some campaign finance reform though!



It was obama who changed the campaign financing.
There used to be state funding for the campaigns, and both candidates got to spend the same relativly small amount.
Then obama thought (rightfully) that he could get more monney from donations and since then the monney spend on the campaign has gone up to 6b now according to cnn.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 01:58:10
November 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#25323
On November 07 2012 10:55 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:54 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

The reason why money spent on the auto bail out is helping Obama is because it helped the economy. It helped people.

So it should rightly pay off for Obama, because people really are better off.

When government spends money, the minority it helps is obvious, the majority it hurts is hidden.

all dem roads and bridges hurting people.

underground
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25324
On November 07 2012 10:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Interestingly, the early numbers in PA don't seem quite powerful enough for Romney to pull off his upset there. Though, of course, it's only 1%; the urban margins just seem to big for Obama.

The chance of Romney winning PA is 0. It was always 0.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25325
On November 07 2012 10:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:55 Myles wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:54 Quintum_ wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:51 Souma wrote:
lol that's great.

He did his job -> 'HE BRIBED VOTERS!'

Is this gonna be the Republicans' new excuse if Obama wins?


You didnt hear, Republicans where calling voter fraud cause dems where giving out chilly, or maybe it was drinks. IT was some food or beverage.

Well, to be fair I did hear about some controversy with Republicans and coffee where I live.

why the fuck didnt i get some bribes... thats whats pissing me off... some jamba juice would have been nice.

I would have voted for Romney in exchange for some good beer. Why not, I live in a Blue state anyway
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 01:59:04
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25326
I wanna stick around and chat with you guys but I gotta get to campaign HQ and celebrate.

Until later tonight, my friends!

On November 07 2012 10:57 Rassy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:53 Souma wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised.


There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.


Doing a good job is more influential than private money - thank God!

Still not gonna rest until we get some campaign finance reform though!



It was obama who changed the campaign financing.
There used to be state funding for the campaigns, and both candidates got to spend the same relativly small amount.
Then obama thought (rightfully) that he could get more monney from donations and since then the monney spend on the campaign has gone up to 6b now according to cnn.


I know. =) One more reason why I'm not voting for Obama.

Campaign finance reform is not a partisan issue. It's an American issue.
Writer
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25327
On November 07 2012 10:52 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:49 farvacola wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

Spin kettle calling the spin pot black? Spin me surprised.


There is no spin involved in saying the auto bailout nearly guaranteed Ohio and in general public money is much more influential than private money. That is a neutral statement. Zealotdriver just wanted to make a cute little attack.

Indeed. Direct hit!
Turn off the radio
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25328
On November 07 2012 10:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:55 Myles wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:54 Quintum_ wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:51 Souma wrote:
lol that's great.

He did his job -> 'HE BRIBED VOTERS!'

Is this gonna be the Republicans' new excuse if Obama wins?


You didnt hear, Republicans where calling voter fraud cause dems where giving out chilly, or maybe it was drinks. IT was some food or beverage.

Well, to be fair I did hear about some controversy with Republicans and coffee where I live.

why the fuck didnt i get some bribes... thats whats pissing me off... some jamba juice would have been nice.


id vote republican for some dip n dots
No Artosis, you are robin
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 01:59:02
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25329
In the final pre-election forecast at FiveThirtyEight, the state of Florida was exceptionally close. Officially, Mr. Obama was projected to 49.797 percent of the vote there, and Mr. Romney 49.775 percent, a difference of two-hundredths of a percentage point.

The last time a FiveThirtyEight forecast had projected such a close race was in the 2008 senate race in Minnesota, when our final pre-election forecast had given the Democrat, Al Franken, a nominal 0.1-point lead over the Republican incumbent, Norm Coleman. That race ended in a recount, with Mr. Franken winning after several months of ballot counting.

Florida, of course, is known for its recounts as well. We’re tracking the individual counties as they come in from that state, particularly those where there is a decent amount of Election Day votes reported, rather than just absentee ballots. Throughout the state, the vote tallies are coming in about exactly as you would expect in a tied race.

— Nate Silver

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/live-blog-the-2012-presidential-election/
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25330
On November 07 2012 10:57 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:55 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:54 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

The reason why money spent on the auto bail out is helping Obama is because it helped the economy. It helped people.

So it should rightly pay off for Obama, because people really are better off.

When government spends money, the minority it helps is obvious, the majority it hurts is hidden.

all dem roads and bridges hurting people.

underground

The straw man king. Good thing for me we weren't talking about roads or bridges, we were talking about corporate bail outs.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 02:02:51
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25331
On November 07 2012 10:54 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 10:48 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 07 2012 10:42 Romantic wrote:
If the Romney insider thing is true and they think Ohio is Obama+5, I guess that shows buying a state with a bailout really works. Looks like that is a much bigger deal than private donations to campaigns. Forget private money influencing elections, public money seems much better at it.

Of course, improving the livelihoods of people is such a terrible use of public funds.

Nice spin there bud

Get a job with MSNBC. They'd love to have you.

The reason why money spent on the auto bail out is helping Obama is because it helped the economy. It helped people.

So it should rightly pay off for Obama, because people really are better off.


You know it is more complicated than that. I am not going to debate here the virtue of using the taxpayer's credit card to bail out specific failing corporations (Read: corporate bailouts) here.

acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 01:59:20
November 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#25332
On November 07 2012 10:57 oneofthem wrote:
all dem roads and bridges hurting people.

underground

That auto bailout, hurting people shortselling GM stock.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
November 07 2012 01:59 GMT
#25333
On November 07 2012 10:49 HopLight wrote:
I highly recommend democratic supporters to tune into Fox News (http://www.baqi.tv/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/) , there is a slow but sure sense of panic that is settling on the entire crew that is very enjoyable to watch.

you should've seen MSNBC in 2010. shit was a graveyard.

I'm just gonna say to everyone who is so sure... just wait a bit first.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 07 2012 01:59 GMT
#25334
20K difference for Obama in FL with 69% in. This'll be close...still no big Miami or Broward update though.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#25335
On November 07 2012 10:59 TheTenthDoc wrote:
20K difference for Obama in FL with 69% in. This'll be close...still no big Miami or Broward update though.


yeah its REALLY REALLY close right now in FL
No Artosis, you are robin
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#25336
It looks like murdoch talked himself out of a seat.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#25337
Damn I really don't want Warren to win though... Liz Warren is such a tool even though I'm all for Obama I cant' take her as a package deal...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#25338
Obama takes Mich, no surprise but it has to hurt romney right in the pride
No Artosis, you are robin
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45029 Posts
November 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#25339
On November 07 2012 10:56 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Interestingly, the early numbers in PA don't seem quite powerful enough for Romney to pull off his upset there. Though, of course, it's only 1%; the urban margins just seem to big for Obama.


Just out of curiosity, if Romney were to get the upset in PA, but Obama took both OH and FL, would it even matter that Romney took PA at all? I think PA has 21 electoral votes, OH has 20, and FL has 27, so they're all relatively close to one another... but is that extra upset enough of a boost to make it a close race again? It would basically make Obama taking OH a wash, right? And Obama would still have FL.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#25340
holy shit, the whole map went red on cnn.com. gotta love the south and midwest.
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