EPTShin Dong-hyuk and the Escape from Camp 14 - Page 2
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acerockolla
United States219 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On April 15 2012 14:50 Antimatterz wrote: Seriously, why the fuck doesn't the rest of the world (everyone not N.K) do something about this? We are sitting here, watching a country that we could probably take over, just torture the shit out of its people and threaten world peace. Because the situation is a lot more complicated than 'lets fight the evil guys'. A quick list: - Hundreds of artillery pieces aimed at the capitol of South Korea, ready to devastate it like a person held hostage - Three major world powers coming close together in that area of the world - Millions of low skilled refugees that we can't just all get rid of with a gun, the country taking in these refugees would take a big economic hit Sitting back and hoping the regime collapses into itself is far less taxing on human life as a full scale invasion would be. | ||
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essencez
342 Posts
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Caryc
Germany330 Posts
On April 15 2012 14:50 Antimatterz wrote: Seriously, why the fuck doesn't the rest of the world (everyone not N.K) do something about this? We are sitting here, watching a country that we could probably take over, just torture the shit out of its people and threaten world peace. same reason we dont do something about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp. people dont like war or attacking other countries in general that much. | ||
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mahO
France274 Posts
On April 15 2012 14:53 Cocoba wrote: I don't think its just that easy. We would probably go into a Cold War again with high leaders debating agreements and with the overall threat of Mutually Assured Destruction. (Not sure how many warheads NK has but even a few could still do a ton of damage.) But I do agree that something does need to be done about this. I think that NK (from what I've read on the subject) can only damage South Korea (which they dont want, they are "at war", but they're korean, any korean would tell you that a real war wont happen), and Japan, they cant reach anything other than that, but if they get attacked and invaded, I think they could destroy most of Seoul, not most, but I mean do such huge casualties, and thats kinda their leverage, I think Japan could avoid getting hit by too many missiles and a naval attack cant really happen they arent even close to the technology required. And second, it is easy, as the guy you quoted, to get all emotional and forget about the history of their country, what they've been thru, and the reasons behind this isolation and self destruction that is todays North Korea. Thinking of a nerd going "Fuck this lets invade them and stop this!" in his chair makes me laugh / sad. And he probably thinks that north koreans hate their country and would do anything to get out of it, but reality is most dont (a non negligeable part must yeah), but some are brain washed, some just believe in their country and the fact that all the world did in Korea until WW2 (and especially during, that is why they still hate Japan and threaten them) was massacre, rape, and invade their country. They grew in hate of the rest of the world, and now they're stuck in this horrible position. Only thing that could work, is slow negotiations that would led to a possible re-unification of the two Koreas, or at least some kind of heavy partnership that would help NK get back on track, but that would be in such a fucking long time that they will starve to death if the situation keeps that way, and be so behind on every level, education, technology, ideology, arts, that it would be a disaster, and north koreans would be considered as savages if mixed with the south. It's a crazy fucking situation just to think how it will probably evolve in the next 50 years, but for now, things wont change, they'll try to act like they can destroy the world and try to use that as a pressure to get humanitarian help etc. Lets just hope they do an opening gesture and process towards South Korea in less than 20 years, because else yeah, we're watching a country die litterally. But a military solution wont ever work, you cant transition out of violence, no cant do | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10324 Posts
Wait a second, why does he look so cheerful? such thoughts seem to be so terrifying. Perhaps the way he was brought up, he was to learn not to feel, or rather he grew up watching horrible things normally. (Maybe that's it, since he's talking about missing his family and stuff later but still seems to have a smile on o.o) Maybe the translation is a bit off but... The story with the friend sounds so tragic. How does he just climb over him, and not realize that he's stuck there? What? He couldn't see the barbed wire? Did he think his friend was in a still position over the fence to allow him to climb over? (If he were to do that, and the guy in the video climbed over, and the guy under was going to climb through after him, why not just both climb that way?) Also what does he mean when he says he might have survived if others saw him? Like if others in the camp noticed a man on the fence? Why didn't he pull him off himself? Actually if you touched him would you be electrocuted too? (apparently not if he climbed over the dude) (of course when you are in a panic situation you don't think straight, maybe that's just why?) | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
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Free NK! | ||
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mujahid
Egypt20 Posts
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.Aar
2177 Posts
This is some serious shit going on, lads. | ||
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S2Glow
Singapore1042 Posts
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DeceiverSC2
36 Posts
On April 15 2012 14:53 Cocoba wrote: I don't think its just that easy. We would probably go into a Cold War again with high leaders debating agreements and with the overall threat of Mutually Assured Destruction. (Not sure how many warheads NK has but even a few could still do a ton of damage.) But I do agree that something does need to be done about this. North Korea has nothing. They don't have the technology to get a uranium 238 isotope let alone figure out how to use it to create a weapon. Think of them as that kid that always talks about his cock and how big it is although in reality we realize the kid just has a pussy. | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
"When I was a child in the prison camp, I still had to work but they gave me a 30 minute, 1 hour break. When I played, I forgot about everything - from the beating in the morning, to not receiving rations because I didn't finish my work. I forgot about all these things when I played. Until today, that is still my best memory." .. im not even a father and when i read that it choked me up... this video really touches me dearly... argh.. >_< | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On April 15 2012 17:13 S2Glow wrote: lol this guy is a jerk. he push down his friend on the fence and escape on his own -_- what a way.. 99% of the people in this world would do that... It's a really, really sad story. | ||
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TehPrime
United States180 Posts
On April 15 2012 18:09 DeceiverSC2 wrote: North Korea has nothing. They don't have the technology to get a uranium 238 isotope let alone figure out how to use it to create a weapon. Think of them as that kid that always talks about his cock and how big it is although in reality we realize the kid just has a pussy. They've successfully tested missiles back in 2006 and 2009. This is their very first rocket failure. | ||
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acerockolla
United States219 Posts
On April 15 2012 18:56 TehPrime wrote: They've successfully tested missiles back in 2006 and 2009. This is their very first rocket failure. Negative. http://www.nti.org/country-profiles/north-korea/delivery-systems/ North Korea has quite the history of launch failures. If you're getting your news from NK sources, then I agree... first failure! | ||
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Lovedoll
Japan540 Posts
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On April 15 2012 14:50 Antimatterz wrote: Seriously, why the fuck doesn't the rest of the world (everyone not N.K) do something about this? We are sitting here, watching a country that we could probably take over, just torture the shit out of its people and threaten world peace. We don't have abundance of resources here so I doubt U.N.'s Big 5 would care about it. | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
On April 15 2012 19:22 shaftofpleasure wrote: We don't have abundance of resources here so I doubt U.N.'s Big 5 would care about it. 'We'? Are you currently living in NK? If not, why are you listing NK as your country? I find this a bit impudent, especially with the backgrounds of topics like in this thread. | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On April 15 2012 19:37 SkyTheUnknown wrote: 'We'? Are you currently living in NK? If not, why are you listing NK as your country? I find this a bit impudent, especially with the backgrounds of topics like in this thread. I kid .... no I don't live in NK neither would i like to live in NK. What I mean to say is that NK doesn't interest other countries because it doesn't have resources on its land. | ||
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