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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 21 2005 01:48 GMT
#81
That's really sad to see...
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
October 21 2005 01:54 GMT
#82
dude, gastol, youre an idiot. Ryan is not suffering from some disease in complete and total pain being forced to stay alive like your grandfather. He HIMSELF is CHOOSING to stay alive. What the fuck kind of logic is it for someone to come up to you and say "you need to die, i dont think you are enjoying life"? If ryan was braindead, in a coma, or completely incapacitated, and safe to assume was in total pain every waking moment, then yes making the decision for him to die might be reasonable. But he's not. His brain works, he is just as normal as you or I on the inside. Thats like me killing you because you broke your ankle, stating you are in too much pain to survive. It's your fucking choice weather or not that ankle has ended your life, or if you can go on living anyway.
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
October 21 2005 02:04 GMT
#83
On October 20 2005 17:48 HULKAMANIA wrote:
And you, baal. Hell, don't get me started.

Don't even mention balls, dude. You haven't got half the balls that guy's mother has. The day you get on Ryan's level, the day you achieve something as impossible as he has, you can say something. Until then, you can show some god damned respect and keep your opinions to yourself.


I can't say HULKAMANIA and I are best friends (in fact, every post of his has unnecessarily bashed me), and I like Reese's approach for girls, but seriously. It's not your fucking role to decide who lives and who doesn't. Some people are born unlucky - this is even more reason to get off one's fat ass and actually make a contribution or make something of himself. The whole "with power comes great responsibility" - if you care so fucking much about killing harlequin babies or handicaps, figure out cures for the disease if they bother you so much.

The whole attitude of being condescending towards people who have no choice in what they are born as is disgusting.
too easy
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 21 2005 07:50 GMT
#84
i didnt find this stuff THAT scaring / ugly..
i mean its just a human with some kind of disease after all.. it just got some drink.. I mean i find it 100 times sicker, if i see humanbeings beating cows / pigs to death or looking and treating them like tools ( there was posted a strange video on teamliquid, where u could see people cutting of animals legs and parts of their body while still being alive ) i found this stuff much more sick 8/


this is strange, but i doesnt scare me and i dont really find it THAAT ugly..
Im just feeling srry for the kid 8//
hatred outlives the hateful
gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
October 21 2005 10:15 GMT
#85
HULKAMANIA, you kick ass.
http://benisonline.com
T______T
Profile Joined August 2005
United States538 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-21 10:26:44
October 21 2005 10:25 GMT
#86
Anyone who overcomes big-time shit and becomes awesome >>> normal people who become awesome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people who complain all day asking for welfare payments when they should be looking at people like Ryan and say, "Fuck, look what he has to go through every fucking second of his life. It's an insult to him that I ask for welfare payments."
- pride and shame -
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
October 21 2005 10:47 GMT
#87
A bit odd I must say.
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
October 21 2005 11:04 GMT
#88
On October 21 2005 19:25 T______T wrote:
Anyone who overcomes big-time shit and becomes awesome >>> normal people who become awesome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people who complain all day asking for welfare payments when they should be looking at people like Ryan and say, "Fuck, look what he has to go through every fucking second of his life. It's an insult to him that I ask for welfare payments."
yea well i doubt those on welfare get all the support and cheer that ryan does. He has a little motivation here, it's nice when everyone loves you for trying. Wheres my dedicated thread for holding up a job?
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5017 Posts
October 21 2005 11:11 GMT
#89
HULKAMANIA you are a great and well spoken individual. I love you ^_^
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
T______T
Profile Joined August 2005
United States538 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-21 11:18:34
October 21 2005 11:11 GMT
#90
On October 21 2005 20:04 NewbSaibot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2005 19:25 T______T wrote:
Anyone who overcomes big-time shit and becomes awesome >>> normal people who become awesome >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people who complain all day asking for welfare payments when they should be looking at people like Ryan and say, "Fuck, look what he has to go through every fucking second of his life. It's an insult to him that I ask for welfare payments."
yea well i doubt those on welfare get all the support and cheer that ryan does. He has a little motivation here, it's nice when everyone loves you for trying. Wheres my dedicated thread for holding up a job?


So what if they don't get cheered on? It's because they aren't doing anything that special. You can't use the excuse, "I didn't get a job because no one was cheering me on!".


edit: I don't feel like a debate right now, so I'll let you have the last say. I don't like arguing with people who will give every possible excuse for people. What happened to personal responsibility?
- pride and shame -
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
October 21 2005 14:04 GMT
#91
I appreciate all the love, fellas. I really do.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
Sorrow_eyes
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-21 16:59:22
October 21 2005 16:57 GMT
#92
... excuse me for getting out of my Hybernation but ...
I feel like commenting on this subject for abit, even it will cost me my glorious corsair icon upon 1000th post when I return(which is very trivial so it does not matter anyways)

Think back in time, think of the dark ages and the past where everyone dies young. Small pox, Black death, and even a flu may be lethal. Now as our medical technologies advance, we no longer die due to Small pox, Black death, and flus do we not? Now say there is a kid that has flu, can we say O dear nature wants him dead because by logic flu is natually a lethal decease! Of course we cannot, if we do, most people on this forum would be dead long before reaching the age of 5.
Our technology makes it possible to preserve the physically crippled humans and these humans are saved from death as our technology advances. And look what these cripples can do: Stephen Hawking, Helen Keller, and many other physically maimed people have done extraordinary things that inspred many others to a more positive attitude toward life.
Now this poor kid. He is merely one of the more extreme case of physical illness. However, it is with in our technology to preserve his life, and therefore we will do so. It is a human nature to help his/her fellow human beings to save other's life, why? I do not know, it just is our nature to save other humans, a trait programed into our brain by our DNAs perhapes, so we do not kill each other off and extinct.
Now then, about Ryan. I would guess that anyone of us would not be so stupidly walk up to the trithalon participant and says, "Hello Ryan, I think your mother should've let you die when you are a kid, would'nt you? I mean c'mon, You know you don't want to live, you know your life sucks with all the strange looks you got from strangers. C'mon bro, I'll kill you to end your misery." Even the tought of it is rediculous. One wants to live on no matter what, for that is another code our DNA coded our brain with, is to live on no matter what in order to pass the DNA onward, to ensure the DNA's survival.
Therefore by logic deduction, if one is born with some physical deformation, is he not a human still? Does his DNA not tell him to survive for all cost? Do we all want to save him from death out of human nature? And can't our technology achieve this practice? He is, his DNA does, we do, and our technology can. So the kid lives righteously and no question asked.
The only one who does not deserve to live is the one with a brain that rebels against survival. Suicide for instance, drug abuse, heavy alchololism are all good examples on how would a brain directs a human into destruction where his DNA really want his brain to command his body so he can live. In a way, his brain chose to destroy his body in this situation, not always, of course, nothing is always true.
One may also be so kindly to point out that the maimed have to go through so much in their life, that their spirit is the healthiest of the lot, for they can feel gratitude more than all others because they do not have what we taken for granted. And in general, most maimed people have fervent desire to live on just like the rest of us.
Lastly, a quote:
Many persons have a wrong idea of what constitutes true happiness. It is not attained through self-gratification but through fidelity to a worthy purpose - Helen Keller

edit: holy crap corsair icon looks so ass kicking!
Myacctmessup: People tried to create a Perfect language that the whole world can communicate with out difficulty, that it is universal and easy to learn. Do you hapen to know what language is it? Fireblast: You mean love?
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
October 21 2005 23:55 GMT
#93
On October 21 2005 20:11 T______T wrote:
[So what if they don't get cheered on? It's because they aren't doing anything that special. You can't use the excuse, "I didn't get a job because no one was cheering me on!".


edit: I don't feel like a debate right now, so I'll let you have the last say. I don't like arguing with people who will give every possible excuse for people. What happened to personal responsibility?
What happened to compassion? Not everyone is responsible for everything. I'm sure you would have turned out different if raised in a crack house. Would you feel responsible for your emotional trauma causing you not to give a fuck about life or anything in the world? I know holding up a job is not that special, but everyone needs motivation, and whether you realise it or not, you have had plenty of motivation and subtle cheer in your lifetime which keeps you in good spirits so as not to give heroine a try. We are all a product of circumstance, i realise you may have disconnected yourself from humanity and dont give a fuck about some old man you see laying in a gutter, in fact youre probably glad for him, he deserves it for being so stupid and lazy. But we are all the same at birth, so obviously theres some alterior influence on our lives which leads us down one path from another.
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
T______T
Profile Joined August 2005
United States538 Posts
October 22 2005 00:07 GMT
#94
choice
- pride and shame -
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
October 22 2005 02:22 GMT
#95
I dont think you should use an extreme example of personal achievement to start inciting arguments against welfare :/

Of course saying we are all products of our circumstances is an exaggeration, but what is the alternative for our poor law?

Individuals rarely exhibit the generosity today to feed the poor these days. Without some kind of welfare system we may face starvation on our streets or open criminality. I am certain no taxpayer would think doling out a few dollars a month a worse alternative.
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