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Resse, I mean this in the most sensitive way possible: fuck you.
Nature wanted that guy dead? Who the hell is Nature that we should listen to her? Are we going to expose our sickly children to the elements? Will that appease that false goddess Nature of yours?
What the hell? Seriously.
Ryan owns me in the human being department. He's got enough guts to make me question whether I'll ever be half the man he is. While you're sitting here tossing off weak ass arguments as to why he should have been left for dead; he's fucking training for a triathlon. I'd be willing to bet that he loves life more than just about any of us. He works harder to keep himself alive than most of us work at anything. Step off him.
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On October 19 2005 23:27 Resse wrote:
nature wanted the guy dead.
nature/evolution doesn't want anything. it's not a being, it has no will-power.
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And you, baal. Hell, don't get me started.
Don't even mention balls, dude. You haven't got half the balls that guy's mother has. The day you get on Ryan's level, the day you achieve something as impossible as he has, you can say something. Until then, you can show some god damned respect and keep your opinions to yourself.
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On October 20 2005 17:48 HULKAMANIA wrote:
And you, baal. Hell, don't get me started.
Don't even mention balls, dude. You haven't got half the balls that guy's mother has. The day you get on Ryan's level, the day you achieve something as impossible as he has, you can say something. Until then, you can show some god damned respect and keep your opinions to yourself.
very well said. this is indeed the worst case of genetic disorder i have ever seen. and the guy has to eat 7500 calories a day to be alive. plus the traumatization of people staring at him.
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I am sick of the heritage of the christian religion.
A good life is not a life of a "martyr".
Life alone should not be sacred; it s adventure, dream, love, friendship etc. which should be sacred. If I place myself in his body, my only hope is to die.
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And that's why a man like Ryan towers over you, Gatsu.
You talk about the sanctity of adventures, dreams, friendships, and love. Then in the next breath you talk about how, if you lived inside his body, you would throw in the towell. Well, that man does live in that body. And guess what, he lives an adventure. He takes his disease ridden, irritated skin and swims in the ocean. He finishes triathlons with a body that should have died years ago. You know what else? His mom loves him. She went to the fucking mat to keep him alive. If that's not love, if that's not friendship, I don't know what is. And he dreams, man.
His dreams have pulled him through eighteen years of hell that would have ended you.
You're damn right that a pulse and a pair of breathing lungs aren't sacred. But you're dead wrong if you think that a man like Ryan doesn't live with ten times the gumption you do.
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I have seen my grandfather live the 10 last years of his life in a nightmare just because some people dont give a shit about the real feeling of the guy.
He had alzeihmer which basically distruct the brain, make you see your wife like a stranger, and all normal people as hostil people who had stole your wallet that infact you have put in an hidden place you dont even remember. The last 5 years, u are not even able to think. u just have your tears on the face. And people need to give you water because u dont even remember that u need to drink. No, for me all life are not welcome.
Sometimes, death is a friend.
And for this specific case, I think if this baby is not enduring constant pain, can have good emotion and if the mother take it like a gift and not a burden. Yes his life is valuable. But I have seen many situation where obviously the being want to die ( because he ask it, because he ll only have 2 years of incredible pain before his own death ) but some christian "charity" dont allow it.
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But your philosophical stance on euthenasia has precious little to do with this discussion. I didn't even take issue with it. In fact, you didn't even mention it.
I'm sorry you had to endure the slow death of your grandfather. It sounds heartbreaking.
But you can't say that someone should be able to choose death, and then turn around and say that a guy like Ryan should have been left to die. He's chosen to live, and he meets all your stated criteria for sanctity.
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my post is in direct relation about all the kind of posts of the same nature as this one:
"No person should ever be allowed to decide who can and can't live. We should do all we can within humane means to keep these children alive just like we would any other person. Stop acting like pieces of shit and realize that stronger people than you are able to live challenging lives in spite of disabilities.
Idiots."
I dont agree. In case of rare disabilities where the life will be just painfull at 99.9% until death the family should be able to make a choice without people to talk about the "right" of the being or the "right" of life. And where there is no hope and incredible pain, a group of doctors should be able to surpass the desire of the family.
ps: my personnal story has nothing to do with euthanasia. it s about being who are not able to express themself and are enduring pain until death. And yes, i have seen an other situation where the guy ASK for it but has not been allow to die !
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WOW whos the father 
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If i was living like that boy i will probably kill myself or cry all nights. Im a coward.
I dont know how to put this into english words but i really really "clap" this guys attitude towards what life gave him.
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genetic disorder? so certain people are carriers?
ryan has strong determination in forcing himself to be a survivor of that disease. that's pretty respectful. i can't say that, in my position, i'd want to live like that, but then again i'm not coming from a background of experiences like he has had and knows he went through as a young boy. it's impressive to see that he isn't degraded by society, yet uplifted as being a medical miracle in the eyes of society. he's a very cool guy  i'd love to meet him.
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It's probably a mutation. Maybe the parents were exposed to teratogens or something.
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that may be. it said in the wikipedia article that somewhere in... iraq? cases were reported by people who had something to do with some kind of uranium dust... ah i don't remember, i just skimmed through it and saw something along that track.
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Depleted Uranium shells used by the US army.
This thread reminds me of this.
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On October 20 2005 20:54 IntoTheWow wrote:
If i was living like that boy i will probably kill myself or cry all nights. Im a coward.
I dont know how to put this into english words but i really really "clap" this guys attitude towards what life gave him.
If you're still wondering, "applaud" would work there. It means "to clap or cheer for." And I'm with you on the sentiment, by the way.
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Thanks with the grammar help 
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