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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 13 2012 00:19 GMT
#861
i cite this only to show how stupid media coverage of this event has become. this is front page news people, on yahoo.

George Zimmerman buys $79.84 worth of items from jail store

George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail, where he recently purchased a collection of items from the Seminole County jail store to help pass the time.

The Miami Herald recently tweeted a photo of a receipt from Zimmerman's $79.84 purchases that included playing cards, puzzle books, and Jolly Rancher candy.

Zimmerman also bought socks, a debit card for phone calls, Ivory soap, underwear, beef sticks, t-shirts, deodorant, chocolate cookies, and one orange. The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account.

Zimmerman, 28, has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/george-zimmerman-buys-79-84-worth-items-jail-214706403.html
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
April 13 2012 00:52 GMT
#862
On April 13 2012 09:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
i cite this only to show how stupid media coverage of this event has become. this is front page news people, on yahoo.

George Zimmerman buys $79.84 worth of items from jail store

Show nested quote +
George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail, where he recently purchased a collection of items from the Seminole County jail store to help pass the time.

The Miami Herald recently tweeted a photo of a receipt from Zimmerman's $79.84 purchases that included playing cards, puzzle books, and Jolly Rancher candy.

Zimmerman also bought socks, a debit card for phone calls, Ivory soap, underwear, beef sticks, t-shirts, deodorant, chocolate cookies, and one orange. The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account.

Zimmerman, 28, has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/george-zimmerman-buys-79-84-worth-items-jail-214706403.html


Yahoo News has always been a joke in my eyes. Still, this is pretty ridiculous. There is so much attention on this case that people will click on any link related to it, so sites like Yahoo are passing off whatever scraps of information they collect as news.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
dotHead
Profile Joined October 2010
United States233 Posts
April 13 2012 01:09 GMT
#863


I just watched it and even though it was said "fucking punks"on the affidavit but if you have ever listened to the damn tape, you would know that Zimmerman said "fucking punks" and "fucking coons". The "fucking coon's part was hard to hear and it was by itself. If you are trying to deny that was ever being said, then so be it. But it was on the tape, 100% fact.



Who says calls black people coons anyway? I mean come on, maybe backwoods hillbillies forty years ago. It's a laughable slur at most. I had a talk with a few black friends of mine, and they didn't even know "coon" was as a racist slur.
Aint got time to bleed
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 01:26:16
April 13 2012 01:20 GMT
#864
On April 13 2012 10:09 dotHead wrote:
Show nested quote +


I just watched it and even though it was said "fucking punks"on the affidavit but if you have ever listened to the damn tape, you would know that Zimmerman said "fucking punks" and "fucking coons". The "fucking coon's part was hard to hear and it was by itself. If you are trying to deny that was ever being said, then so be it. But it was on the tape, 100% fact.



Who says calls black people coons anyway? I mean come on, maybe backwoods hillbillies forty years ago. It's a laughable slur at most. I had a talk with a few black friends of mine, and they didn't even know "coon" was as a racist slur.


So because you talked to a "a few black friends" of yours who didn't know coon was a racial slur that means its not a well known racial slur? Its great they have never had come in contact with its use, however, in no way does your anecdote show that its not a well known slur.

Edit- I'm not sure what you are even trying to debate here. It seems beyond silly to try to argue no one uses a particular racial slur anymore. Beyond that, it seems even more absurd to try and use anecdotal evidence to try and support it. A more reasonable argument given how the tape seems to have been edited over time would be to argue whether the statement was even uttered in the first place.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 13 2012 01:39 GMT
#865
On April 13 2012 09:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
i cite this only to show how stupid media coverage of this event has become. this is front page news people, on yahoo.

George Zimmerman buys $79.84 worth of items from jail store

Show nested quote +
George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail, where he recently purchased a collection of items from the Seminole County jail store to help pass the time.

The Miami Herald recently tweeted a photo of a receipt from Zimmerman's $79.84 purchases that included playing cards, puzzle books, and Jolly Rancher candy.

Zimmerman also bought socks, a debit card for phone calls, Ivory soap, underwear, beef sticks, t-shirts, deodorant, chocolate cookies, and one orange. The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account.

Zimmerman, 28, has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/george-zimmerman-buys-79-84-worth-items-jail-214706403.html


lol @ cooling his "heals"
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
April 13 2012 01:48 GMT
#866
Why are you guys even debating the "coon" thing? Wasn't it shown that a media giant named ABC EDITED the material they put on their networks? Why even read any news article on this subject? They are all going to racially charge this matter with "white hispanic" and "black teenager". They don't need to say any of these words, except teenager, but they must put the race of both parties in every fucking article.

Even then, why debate who confronted who? No one knows what happened at all (except for one guy), and to say things are 100% fact just makes you an idiot. It's been said from both parties, however, that Martin knowingly confronted Zimmerman while Zimmerman was on his way back to his car. It doesn't matter what operater said on the phone, they have no power whatsoever. They can only give advice, and one operater did advise a black guy to go back to where he was being harassed by some white guys and they white guys fucking killed the black guy. Do any of you guys know about that? Happened like a week ago. Probably was motivated by the media giants needing to put the races of both parties in almost every paragraph possible.

It's funny the POTUS would say his little comment, "my son would look like him". Isn't Obama half white? Isn't there a chance any of his kids could turn out full white? Then the POTUS allowing the New N---- Panter Party to incite violience with their bounty. Only after the neo nazis publically came out in reference to this issue has any legal action been taken.

As I've said earlier, maybe in this thread of the one before it, the only reason there is any legal action really happening is because of politics. He's going to get charged no matter what, because the New N---- Panther Party has promised civil disobedience and such. It doesn't matter if he's innocent or not, though he may end up being found innocent. What I wonder is if he is found innocent, what will happen then? It seems the only way to make sure no riots happen is if Zimmerman is charged and sent to prison, even if he is completely innocent.

User was temp banned for this post.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
April 13 2012 01:57 GMT
#867
On April 13 2012 10:48 DigiGnar wrote:
Why are you guys even debating the "coon" thing? Wasn't it shown that a media giant named ABC EDITED the material they put on their networks? Why even read any news article on this subject? They are all going to racially charge this matter with "white hispanic" and "black teenager". They don't need to say any of these words, except teenager, but they must put the race of both parties in every fucking article.

Even then, why debate who confronted who? No one knows what happened at all (except for one guy), and to say things are 100% fact just makes you an idiot. It's been said from both parties, however, that Martin knowingly confronted Zimmerman while Zimmerman was on his way back to his car. It doesn't matter what operater said on the phone, they have no power whatsoever. They can only give advice, and one operater did advise a black guy to go back to where he was being harassed by some white guys and they white guys fucking killed the black guy. Do any of you guys know about that? Happened like a week ago. Probably was motivated by the media giants needing to put the races of both parties in almost every paragraph possible.

It's funny the POTUS would say his little comment, "my son would look like him". Isn't Obama half white? Isn't there a chance any of his kids could turn out full white? Then the POTUS allowing the New N---- Panter Party to incite violience with their bounty. Only after the neo nazis publically came out in reference to this issue has any legal action been taken.

As I've said earlier, maybe in this thread of the one before it, the only reason there is any legal action really happening is because of politics. He's going to get charged no matter what, because the New N---- Panther Party has promised civil disobedience and such. It doesn't matter if he's innocent or not, though he may end up being found innocent. What I wonder is if he is found innocent, what will happen then? It seems the only way to make sure no riots happen is if Zimmerman is charged and sent to prison, even if he is completely innocent.

The media are definitely the real criminals here, even if Zimmerman is guilty. Murder is a serious crime, and I'm not trying to diminish its severity or anything like that, but the media has actively been misleading the entire country. Imagine if they pulled this kind of crap on something more important than a local criminal case, like say, a war? Except they have actually done that. Historians pretty much all agree the Spanish-American War was started because the media claimed (falsely) that the Spanish sank an American ship in a Cuban port. I suspect similar misdoings greatly contributed to the war in Iraq, but that's neither here nor there.

In short, everyone at ABC who was even tangentially involved in misleading the public deserves jail time, possibly quite a bit of it in fact, since deceit at this scale is practically treason.
Who called in the fleet?
dotHead
Profile Joined October 2010
United States233 Posts
April 13 2012 02:00 GMT
#868

So because you talked to a "a few black friends" of yours who didn't know coon was a racial slur that means its not a well known racial slur? Its great they have never had come in contact with its use, however, in no way does your anecdote show that its not a well known slur.

Edit- I'm not sure what you are even trying to debate here. It seems beyond silly to try to argue no one uses a particular racial slur anymore. Beyond that, it seems even more absurd to try and use anecdotal evidence to try and support it. A more reasonable argument given how the tape seems to have been edited over time would be to argue whether the statement was even uttered in the first place.


I was kind of making a joke. You are way to serious, go calm down. I was just trying to say that most people I know laugh when they are called racial slurs, and don't really take them seriously.
Aint got time to bleed
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
April 13 2012 02:03 GMT
#869
On April 13 2012 10:39 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 09:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
i cite this only to show how stupid media coverage of this event has become. this is front page news people, on yahoo.

George Zimmerman buys $79.84 worth of items from jail store

George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail, where he recently purchased a collection of items from the Seminole County jail store to help pass the time.

The Miami Herald recently tweeted a photo of a receipt from Zimmerman's $79.84 purchases that included playing cards, puzzle books, and Jolly Rancher candy.

Zimmerman also bought socks, a debit card for phone calls, Ivory soap, underwear, beef sticks, t-shirts, deodorant, chocolate cookies, and one orange. The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account.

Zimmerman, 28, has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/george-zimmerman-buys-79-84-worth-items-jail-214706403.html


lol @ cooling his "heals"


The article also mentioned that "The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account."

Is he low on money or is there a maximum credit you can have with you in jail?
Leenock the Punisher
Wolvmatt.
Profile Joined April 2011
205 Posts
April 13 2012 02:03 GMT
#870
Why is this still in the media? The guy has been arrested; that's all we really cared about in the first place. Now that justice is being served, I could give less of a fuck about a murder trial a thousand miles away.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:08:42
April 13 2012 02:06 GMT
#871
On April 13 2012 11:03 Wolvmatt. wrote:
Why is this still in the media? The guy has been arrested; that's all we really cared about in the first place. Now that justice is being served, I could give less of a fuck about a murder trial a thousand miles away.


Some people enjoy discussing cases in case you haven't figured that out already (seems like you haven't.)

P.S. Not sure if this is right or not but yeah... heres the numbers for the oj simpon case. (This was a really famous case, you should look it up.)

"An incredible 91% of the television viewing audience watched it and an unbelievable 142 million people listened on radio and watched television as the verdict was delivered."
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 13 2012 02:07 GMT
#872
Alan Dershowitz is not impressed with the charging instrument:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/47034974#47034974
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#873
On April 13 2012 10:48 DigiGnar wrote:
Why are you guys even debating the "coon" thing? Wasn't it shown that a media giant named ABC EDITED the material they put on their networks? Why even read any news article on this subject? They are all going to racially charge this matter with "white hispanic" and "black teenager". They don't need to say any of these words, except teenager, but they must put the race of both parties in every fucking article.

Even then, why debate who confronted who? No one knows what happened at all (except for one guy), and to say things are 100% fact just makes you an idiot. It's been said from both parties, however, that Martin knowingly confronted Zimmerman while Zimmerman was on his way back to his car. It doesn't matter what operater said on the phone, they have no power whatsoever. They can only give advice, and one operater did advise a black guy to go back to where he was being harassed by some white guys and they white guys fucking killed the black guy. Do any of you guys know about that? Happened like a week ago. Probably was motivated by the media giants needing to put the races of both parties in almost every paragraph possible.

It's funny the POTUS would say his little comment, "my son would look like him". Isn't Obama half white? Isn't there a chance any of his kids could turn out full white? Then the POTUS allowing the New N---- Panter Party to incite violience with their bounty. Only after the neo nazis publically came out in reference to this issue has any legal action been taken.

As I've said earlier, maybe in this thread of the one before it, the only reason there is any legal action really happening is because of politics. He's going to get charged no matter what, because the New N---- Panther Party has promised civil disobedience and such. It doesn't matter if he's innocent or not, though he may end up being found innocent. What I wonder is if he is found innocent, what will happen then? It seems the only way to make sure no riots happen is if Zimmerman is charged and sent to prison, even if he is completely innocent.

its the New Black Panther Party. please dont bring your racism into this thread.
syn0r
Profile Joined January 2011
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:32:37
April 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#874
That video reinforced some of my other thoughts on if Zimmerman was getting his head slammed into the ground, it didn't matter who was the initiator of the situation.

Will Zimmerman be able to fall back on the "traditional" self defense claim that Harvard professor talked about, since they are already invoking the SYG law, should the SYG law not hold up in the event Zimmerman did initiate and provoke the confrontation?
Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:30:10
April 13 2012 02:29 GMT
#875
On April 13 2012 11:00 dotHead wrote:
Show nested quote +

So because you talked to a "a few black friends" of yours who didn't know coon was a racial slur that means its not a well known racial slur? Its great they have never had come in contact with its use, however, in no way does your anecdote show that its not a well known slur.

Edit- I'm not sure what you are even trying to debate here. It seems beyond silly to try to argue no one uses a particular racial slur anymore. Beyond that, it seems even more absurd to try and use anecdotal evidence to try and support it. A more reasonable argument given how the tape seems to have been edited over time would be to argue whether the statement was even uttered in the first place.


I was kind of making a joke. You are way to serious, go calm down. I was just trying to say that most people I know laugh when they are called racial slurs, and don't really take them seriously.



This is a serious topic, and should be treated as such. I call BS on your friends, racism is probably one of the few things people will still get ruffled about.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:37:32
April 13 2012 02:37 GMT
#876
Wrong thread.
dotHead
Profile Joined October 2010
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 03:03:28
April 13 2012 02:55 GMT
#877
Sorry DaPhreak
Aint got time to bleed
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 03:04:02
April 13 2012 02:58 GMT
#878
edited.
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
April 13 2012 03:15 GMT
#879
On April 13 2012 11:29 Miss_Cleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 11:00 dotHead wrote:

So because you talked to a "a few black friends" of yours who didn't know coon was a racial slur that means its not a well known racial slur? Its great they have never had come in contact with its use, however, in no way does your anecdote show that its not a well known slur.

Edit- I'm not sure what you are even trying to debate here. It seems beyond silly to try to argue no one uses a particular racial slur anymore. Beyond that, it seems even more absurd to try and use anecdotal evidence to try and support it. A more reasonable argument given how the tape seems to have been edited over time would be to argue whether the statement was even uttered in the first place.


I was kind of making a joke. You are way to serious, go calm down. I was just trying to say that most people I know laugh when they are called racial slurs, and don't really take them seriously.



This is a serious topic, and should be treated as such. I call BS on your friends, racism is probably one of the few things people will still get ruffled about.


Lighten up a bit ^^
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
April 13 2012 03:27 GMT
#880
On April 13 2012 11:03 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 10:39 BlackJack wrote:
On April 13 2012 09:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
i cite this only to show how stupid media coverage of this event has become. this is front page news people, on yahoo.

George Zimmerman buys $79.84 worth of items from jail store

George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail, where he recently purchased a collection of items from the Seminole County jail store to help pass the time.

The Miami Herald recently tweeted a photo of a receipt from Zimmerman's $79.84 purchases that included playing cards, puzzle books, and Jolly Rancher candy.

Zimmerman also bought socks, a debit card for phone calls, Ivory soap, underwear, beef sticks, t-shirts, deodorant, chocolate cookies, and one orange. The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account.

Zimmerman, 28, has been charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/george-zimmerman-buys-79-84-worth-items-jail-214706403.html


lol @ cooling his "heals"


The article also mentioned that "The purchase left $41.36 on Zimmerman's account."

Is he low on money or is there a maximum credit you can have with you in jail?


Pretty sure there is a maximum amount per month or something, you just can't have chocolate cookies and jolly ranchers all day in jail. That would kinda defeat the purpose imo.
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