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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 26 2013 20:15 GMT
#3021
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
June 26 2013 20:15 GMT
#3022
http://www.wtsp.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2384667563001
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 26 2013 20:15 GMT
#3023
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

I assume when they aproach the Judge it's supposed to be a private conversation, because they may be talking about things not admissable to the jury. Hearing about it would influence them.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
June 26 2013 20:15 GMT
#3024
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

I did jury duty once, and they would put up white sound on the speakers so we couldnt hear them every time they went up to speak with the judge.
Skol
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 20:17:22
June 26 2013 20:16 GMT
#3025
On June 27 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.


Could you give an example? You can't contaminate the jury since they have sworn (or something) to not watch media, news etc. I don't get it, really.

Edit: it's fine to "whitenoise" the jury, but observers?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 26 2013 20:17 GMT
#3026
On June 27 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.

only the jury is not allowed to hear. the press can just request copies of the transcript. everything is recorded.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 26 2013 20:18 GMT
#3027
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
June 26 2013 20:18 GMT
#3028
It's unfortunate some very important facts are only known by a person who is literally retarded.
dude bro.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 26 2013 20:18 GMT
#3029
On June 27 2013 05:16 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.


Could you give an example? You can't contaminate the jury since they have sworn (or something) to not watch media, news etc. I don't get it, really.

Edit: it's fine to "whitenoise" the jury, but observers?

they are likely discussing the admissibility of some evidence. if they let the jury hear the evidence before its determined whether its admissible, you cant "unring the bell" so they have discussions outside the hearing of the jury.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
June 26 2013 20:19 GMT
#3030
On June 27 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?


she lied about her age (said she was 16) for some reason I don't really follow, but that's the only thing I'm aware of.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 26 2013 20:19 GMT
#3031
On June 27 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?


I don't know exactly the lie, but I heard her testify "yes" in response to his question that she had previously lied under oath at a deposition.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 26 2013 20:19 GMT
#3032
On June 27 2013 05:16 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.


Could you give an example? You can't contaminate the jury since they have sworn (or something) to not watch media, news etc. I don't get it, really.

Example of what? What they're discussing is whether certain questions get to be asked or whether certain evidence is admissible. If the answer is no, then they shouldn't be mentioned at all.

It's a very simple matter of weighing the risk of contamination versus the benefit of letting the whole world know what's being discussed.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
June 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#3033
On June 27 2013 05:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:16 m4inbrain wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.


Could you give an example? You can't contaminate the jury since they have sworn (or something) to not watch media, news etc. I don't get it, really.

Edit: it's fine to "whitenoise" the jury, but observers?

they are likely discussing the admissibility of some evidence. if they let the jury hear the evidence before its determined whether its admissible, you cant "unring the bell" so they have discussions outside the hearing of the jury.


Okay, thanks. I understand that. Well, kinda. Where exactly is the jury sitting, are they in the courtroom or another room next to it, and actually watching it via stream? Might be a stupid question, sorry.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
June 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#3034
On June 27 2013 05:19 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?


she lied about her age (said she was 16) for some reason I don't really follow, but that's the only thing I'm aware of.


She though she'd be more protected as a minor
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#3035
On June 27 2013 05:19 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?


she lied about her age (said she was 16) for some reason I don't really follow, but that's the only thing I'm aware of.

she also lied about why she didnt go to trayvon's funeral/wake.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#3036
On June 27 2013 05:18 heliusx wrote:
It's unfortunate some very important facts are only known by a person who is literally retarded.

The important part is that she is clearly biased. If she was a genius the diference would be that she would be making a far more compelling case, not that we would know the truth. That would be worse.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#3037
On June 27 2013 05:19 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?


she lied about her age (said she was 16) for some reason I don't really follow, but that's the only thing I'm aware of.


She is over 18? Martin is 17???
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
csikos27
Profile Joined May 2011
United States135 Posts
June 26 2013 20:21 GMT
#3038
hey mom i got on tv
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 26 2013 20:21 GMT
#3039
On June 27 2013 05:20 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:18 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:16 m4inbrain wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:13 m4inbrain wrote:
Okay, now i'm bothered. Why exactly are they muting the sound when they're summoned to the judge? I don't really understand it, since it's not like any of the sides would have an advantage if "the world" would hear what is discussed there.

No one ever gets to hear the side bar discussions between judges and attorneys. A lot of things are discussed back there that aren't to be mentioned to anyone so as to avoid contaminating the trial.


Could you give an example? You can't contaminate the jury since they have sworn (or something) to not watch media, news etc. I don't get it, really.

Edit: it's fine to "whitenoise" the jury, but observers?

they are likely discussing the admissibility of some evidence. if they let the jury hear the evidence before its determined whether its admissible, you cant "unring the bell" so they have discussions outside the hearing of the jury.


Okay, thanks. I understand that. Well, kinda. Where exactly is the jury sitting, are they in the courtroom or another room next to it, and actually watching it via stream? Might be a stupid question, sorry.

prosecutor sits right next to jury; witness is also right next to jury. you cant see jury on stream because they have to be anonymous. and, honest to god, i swear the jury can hear lawyers during the private discussions with the judge so i always keep my voice a little up when im discussing damaging but likely inadmissible evidence during bench discussions. ;-)
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
June 26 2013 20:21 GMT
#3040
On June 27 2013 05:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:19 Tewks44 wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
The stream can't rewind.... can anyone explain how she lied?


she lied about her age (said she was 16) for some reason I don't really follow, but that's the only thing I'm aware of.


She is over 18? Martin is 17???


I believe she is currently 20 (I think she said that at the beginning of her testimony). Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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