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On March 16 2012 23:35 Dr_Strange wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 22:03 FallDownMarigold wrote: We've been cloning shit since like 1980. Humans have actually been cloning since ancient times.
With regard to what people are referring to here as "cloning", the first example was in Xenopus model in 1952, Briggs & King
I'm guessing you might be referring to plant clones or something in ancient times. I'm a fan of being really literal too though, so it's okay, by definition you are correct. Nuclear reprogramming, however, was definitely not going down in the ancient timez
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Not directly but indirectly.
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I suppose a lot of shit does down "indirectly" if you're abstract enough in your thinking
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Well I'm assuming you aren't using nuclear reprogramming in the strictness sense but in the sense of controlling gene expression. A discussion on changing cell types isn't that pertinant to the concept of genetic engineering existing before through selective breeding and cloning plants.
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Hwang Woo-Suk is a total embarrassment, but I would love it if this project got off the ground.
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I wish they would clone a Mastodon instead
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Well...welcome to Jurassic Park
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On March 15 2012 21:55 Felnarion wrote: Well it wouldn't be a REAL mammoth if the mother is an Indian Elephant. But still kind of cool.
Realistically though, it will probably live a painful, short, life, riddled with diseases and defects.
It would be a real mammoth. They replace all of the dna in an elephant egg with dna from the mammoth. Thus, it doesn't matter what the mother is, since the dna is all mammoth. It's not going to be a hybrid or something.
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On March 16 2012 10:14 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 10:10 -_-Quails wrote:On March 16 2012 09:59 bioniK wrote: Everytime I see shit like this I first think "Oh thats cool" but then I realize it has absolutely no point. I'm not sure if science is put to good use by making cool shit. Think of the amount of meat these mammoths will have, and the tusks, and the pelts, and the bones. They're a walking department store - you can make everything from furniture and clothing to breakfast out of them. Mammoths do not have more meat than a standard elephant.. The woollen mammoth grows as big as 3 meters tall, same as a fully grown male elephant. The reason why people think they have more meat, is because of their dense fur, that makes them look way bulkier than elephants. You could say the same exact thing about elephants "They have loads meat, tusks you can make stuff out" - Except you then get shot by enviromentalists ;-) Exactly. Mammoths have everything good that elephants have, plus lots of fur and environmentalists too busy worrying about what will happen if they get loose to shoot you for farming them.
+ Show Spoiler +I do not advocate harming endangered species, and especially not intelligent ones.
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If the next step is to making ultralisk in real life i support this project
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Don't clone humans blah blah, I want wooly mammoths!!!
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Clone everyone and everything! I think the best thing to do is let the clones decide if it's ethical.
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I remember hearing about this in elementary school; im in college now. I think i heard it was going to happen in 20 years. 20 years seemed like many lifetimes to me back then. newayz cheers for science!
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I remember them recovering these mammoth samples like 6 years ago. The article way back then had exactly the same promises and statements.
Why is this actually news again? What changed that was important? That's what I want to know from media, not a fast overview/rehash of old news.
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There is no way to replicate all the DNA 100% accurate. I really don't give a shit what they are thinking.
Those things are going to be missing genes, have mutations, and crazy health problems even if they come out "living". I think this is a very bad idea.
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On March 17 2012 13:23 dcemuser wrote: I remember them recovering these mammoth samples like 6 years ago. The article way back then had exactly the same promises and statements.
Why is this actually news again? What changed that was important? That's what I want to know from media, not a fast overview/rehash of old news.
They found scientists willing to agree to do the work?
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That would be cool to see a mammoth in real life. So are they going to mix it with some other animals DNA to fill in the missing gaps??
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South Korea + Cloning. Excuse me for being skeptical.
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To close something wouldnt they need something to give its birth?
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On March 17 2012 13:29 peekn wrote: That would be cool to see a mammoth in real life. So are they going to mix it with some other animals DNA to fill in the missing gaps?? Jurassic Park used frogs, Because it was the closest they can find. We can use elephants because that's even closer.
On March 17 2012 22:44 NuKedUFirst wrote: To close something wouldnt they need something to give its birth? Elephant's womb
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