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Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
March 15 2012 22:13 GMT
#121
On March 16 2012 05:38 BearStorm wrote:
Man, I sure wish there were some dinosaurs stuck in permafrost!

^never seen jurassic park
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
NOobToss
Profile Joined October 2010
United States92 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 22:49:35
March 15 2012 22:46 GMT
#122
On March 16 2012 06:41 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 06:36 NOobToss wrote:
you guys wanna see real living dinosaurs? they're flying all around us and some of us are going to eat some of them for dinner. and i'm not even trolling.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds


So... Birds are descendants of dinosaurs, therefore birds are dinosaurs. It don't work like that



semantics. we're just apes, with less hair and more manners.

...but i agree with you on that one.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
March 15 2012 22:53 GMT
#123
What exactly is the ethics issue here? Playing god? Not only is that the only real problem I can forsee, but it is also a stupid problem. The progression of science is synonymous with the progression of the human race. Evolution can no longer effectively occur with society (an erratic construct) dictating who we should mate with. I don't want to see my species stuck in a dead end until we can deplete the Earth of its resources and thus destroy ourselves.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 22:57:26
March 15 2012 22:56 GMT
#124
I hope the island they attempt this on doesn't get hit by a hurricane causing them to lose power to the park and all hell breaking loose.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
March 15 2012 22:57 GMT
#125
Sweet! Mammoths!
Bora Pain minha porra!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 15 2012 23:20 GMT
#126
On March 16 2012 07:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
What exactly is the ethics issue here? Playing god? Not only is that the only real problem I can forsee, but it is also a stupid problem. The progression of science is synonymous with the progression of the human race. Evolution can no longer effectively occur with society (an erratic construct) dictating who we should mate with. I don't want to see my species stuck in a dead end until we can deplete the Earth of its resources and thus destroy ourselves.

Mammoths had their time, and nature selected them for extinction

>_>
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 15 2012 23:58 GMT
#127
On March 16 2012 08:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
What exactly is the ethics issue here? Playing god? Not only is that the only real problem I can forsee, but it is also a stupid problem. The progression of science is synonymous with the progression of the human race. Evolution can no longer effectively occur with society (an erratic construct) dictating who we should mate with. I don't want to see my species stuck in a dead end until we can deplete the Earth of its resources and thus destroy ourselves.

Mammoths had their time, and nature selected them for extinction

>_>


yea, but they are pretty cool anyways.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 16 2012 00:00 GMT
#128
On March 16 2012 08:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 07:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
What exactly is the ethics issue here? Playing god? Not only is that the only real problem I can forsee, but it is also a stupid problem. The progression of science is synonymous with the progression of the human race. Evolution can no longer effectively occur with society (an erratic construct) dictating who we should mate with. I don't want to see my species stuck in a dead end until we can deplete the Earth of its resources and thus destroy ourselves.

Mammoths had their time, and nature selected them for extinction

>_>


I thought Man helped with overhunting?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SirDuke
Profile Joined October 2010
United States239 Posts
March 16 2012 00:05 GMT
#129
uhh JP please
Wanna turn up the heat?
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
March 16 2012 00:15 GMT
#130
I highly doubt this will work, but if it does it would be awesome!
esports
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 16 2012 00:16 GMT
#131
On March 16 2012 09:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 08:20 arb wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
What exactly is the ethics issue here? Playing god? Not only is that the only real problem I can forsee, but it is also a stupid problem. The progression of science is synonymous with the progression of the human race. Evolution can no longer effectively occur with society (an erratic construct) dictating who we should mate with. I don't want to see my species stuck in a dead end until we can deplete the Earth of its resources and thus destroy ourselves.

Mammoths had their time, and nature selected them for extinction

>_>


I thought Man helped with overhunting?

That jurassic park quote =[
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
March 16 2012 00:33 GMT
#132
On March 15 2012 22:36 Teoman wrote:
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On March 15 2012 22:16 Nyarly wrote:
I figured they would have done that already..

What's the next step after mammoth ? Humans.
And i believe there are already labs researching for it or doing it.
inb4 savior baby.


No. the next logical step is dinosaurs! John Hammonds dream must come into fulfillment!!!


I'd love to see dinosaurs, I mean there might be ways to disable certain genes so they aren't very dangerous if that's the worry.
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
March 16 2012 00:39 GMT
#133
On March 16 2012 09:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 08:20 arb wrote:
On March 16 2012 07:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
What exactly is the ethics issue here? Playing god? Not only is that the only real problem I can forsee, but it is also a stupid problem. The progression of science is synonymous with the progression of the human race. Evolution can no longer effectively occur with society (an erratic construct) dictating who we should mate with. I don't want to see my species stuck in a dead end until we can deplete the Earth of its resources and thus destroy ourselves.

Mammoths had their time, and nature selected them for extinction

>_>


I thought Man helped with overhunting?

Haha, at first I thought you were referring to Manifesto7. Then I thought, that makes sense.
Tracking treasure down
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 16 2012 00:43 GMT
#134
this would be pretty sweet, I'd way rather see them resurrect a dinosaur though
they should give up on space exploration and focus on that
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
March 16 2012 00:51 GMT
#135
On March 16 2012 07:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I hope the island they attempt this on doesn't get hit by a hurricane causing them to lose power to the park and all hell breaking loose.

Even that will all be fine if you do basic things like avoiding single points of failure in your security system, doing background checks on those with access to sensitive or valuable assets or systems, and not taunting the single point of failure in your security system about his massive debt and need for money.
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 00:53:22
March 16 2012 00:52 GMT
#136
On March 16 2012 07:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I hope the island they attempt this on doesn't get hit by a hurricane causing them to lose power to the park and all hell breaking loose.

That sounds like a sweet script fot a movie!

I dont give a f**k if this about the ethics in this case. I want to be able to order mammoth burgers at a resturaunt next year!
"!@€#" - as some guy said
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 16 2012 00:52 GMT
#137
On March 16 2012 07:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I hope the island they attempt this on doesn't get hit by a hurricane causing them to lose power to the park and all hell breaking loose.

Luckily mammoths will never be able to open doors.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 00:56:51
March 16 2012 00:55 GMT
#138
On March 16 2012 05:52 Chargelot wrote:
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On March 16 2012 05:44 Tyrant0 wrote:
Cloning extinct animals will inevitably have consequences. If they ever reach a point they can successfully clone this animal and continue to do so, it's only a matter of time before a few escape and integrate into the wild. Hundreds of accidental introductions throughout history. Africanized bee

It would be pretty sick to visit jurassic park in my lifetime, though.


Cloned animals are sterile, no? What would it matter if one escaped, without human aid it would have no ability to survive outside of its natural habitat, which no longer exists. Not to mention, it's a fucking mammoth. They're not exactly hard to spot.

No. Cloned animals are usually capable of reproduction. It's hybrids you are thinking of - many of them are sterile, and of those that are not the second generation often is.
Depending on where a species is released, it may or may not be able to cope with a new environment in the wild. Examples include wallabies in England, the cane toads in Australia, and Africanized bees in South America.

Edit:
On March 16 2012 09:52 Derez wrote:
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On March 16 2012 07:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I hope the island they attempt this on doesn't get hit by a hurricane causing them to lose power to the park and all hell breaking loose.

Luckily mammoths will never be able to open doors.

Even with their trunks?
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
March 16 2012 00:57 GMT
#139
The scientific geek in me is cheering for this!

I just wonder if they will be able to live and stick around in today's world. Usually, there is a reason a species got extinct...
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 00:59:44
March 16 2012 00:58 GMT
#140
The only reason anyone would ever see this as unethical would be if it was on the basis that we shouldn't 'play God'. I think it should be easy for most people to reject this, especially anyone who has any real faith in humanity. More importantly, the solution isn't to say "screw ethics", it is to say "screw that person's ethical code because it is irrational and a rational ethical code allows things like this as completely ethical".
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