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alphaentity
Profile Joined August 2005
United States525 Posts
September 06 2005 13:17 GMT
#1
I was aruging with my friend who eats only tofu and rice.

He believes that tofu provides all the proteins he needs, but I highly doubt it.

Any thoughts?
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States973 Posts
September 06 2005 13:21 GMT
#2
for every peice of meat he doesnt eat, i eat 3!
when in doubt DT out
1INK
Profile Joined November 2004
United States630 Posts
September 06 2005 13:24 GMT
#3
no
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
September 06 2005 13:27 GMT
#4
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-06 13:38:32
September 06 2005 13:29 GMT
#5
On September 06 2005 22:27 randomKo_Orean wrote:
no, but it's insanely healthy for you


yeah its just........ eating tofu alone is not insanely healthy x_x you need to mix in other stuff, "balanced diet" and all

and most rices don't have a lot of redeeming nutritional value iirc, except maybe like brown rice

how the hell do you live on only tofu/rice, how long has your friend been doing this??


On September 06 2005 22:35 Meta wrote:
too bad it's pussyfood
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-06 13:36:28
September 06 2005 13:35 GMT
#6
you need vegetables and such to balance it, but i believe it substitutes most meats (if not all) very well
too bad it's pussyfood
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
September 06 2005 13:40 GMT
#7
Damn hes gonna get owned if he keeps that up. I doubt out of just tofu and rice he gets iron, calcium, Vitamin D, C, all the essential protein, carbohydrates and good fats.

skyglow1
GeeyoUkNIT
Profile Joined July 2005
434 Posts
September 06 2005 13:51 GMT
#8
tofu all proteins = if you eat enough
tofu all nutrients = false
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
September 06 2005 14:02 GMT
#9
he'll grow breasts, but not the kind you want.

Anal_Ripper
Profile Joined December 2002
Russian Federation1233 Posts
September 06 2005 15:24 GMT
#10
not tofu is definitely not enough (unless you eat it in like immense quantities) since soy protein has quite a low assimilation(?) rate (of all the soy protein you eat iirc about 30% are broken down into amino acids and get delivered to your muscles)
also you really have to eat some veggies for the sake of your digestion and health of your stomach
Better to fast than eat of every meat, better to live alone than mate with all
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
September 06 2005 16:19 GMT
#11
On September 06 2005 23:02 FirstProbe wrote:
he'll grow breasts, but not the kind you want.

hahahahhahahahahaa
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
NettleS
Profile Joined April 2005
522 Posts
September 06 2005 16:44 GMT
#12
He doesn't eat meat? Are you sure he is male????!
We are too scared to go with you Bluto....WELL JUST KISS MY ASS FROM NOW ON
{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
September 06 2005 16:58 GMT
#13
Tell your friend it doesnt matter what he thinks. Eat meat
ArseniC-2
Profile Joined August 2005
United States131 Posts
September 06 2005 18:28 GMT
#14
Tell him to grow some balls.
Travin
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden672 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-06 18:28:53
September 06 2005 18:28 GMT
#15
ive eaten it quite a lot of times and it taste like a mix of paper and spongee. so if ur a vegetarian but still eat eggs i would recommend qourn instead. (im not a vegetarian)
Travin
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden672 Posts
September 06 2005 18:32 GMT
#16
well i think soy beans have all neccecary proteins, but wtf only rice and soy he will be missing a lot of other stuff----
DeepOrange
Profile Joined July 2004
United States22 Posts
September 06 2005 18:43 GMT
#17
Might want to check out this article: http://www.bullz-eye.com/furci/2004/021901.htm

The writer is a former body-builder. In the article he makes some statements about how soy protein can lower testosterone levels in men.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
September 06 2005 19:18 GMT
#18
Tofu and rice is fine as the bulk of your food intake, although it's extremely boring and tasteless. There are still many essential vitamins and minerals missing there though.

A balanced diet is still the best way, don't let the vegetarians fool you.
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{ToT}Strafe
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Thailand7026 Posts
September 06 2005 19:21 GMT
#19
just eat a lot of different food, try all food and stay away from fried stuff
draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-07 00:02:30
September 07 2005 00:00 GMT
#20
vegetarians are so weird...

Do vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons value all walks of life equally? Do they trap mice, swat flies, slap mosquitos, or smash spiders? If so, I think that's rather hypocritical.
t.t
Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
September 07 2005 00:11 GMT
#21
Meat is fucking disgusting.

Humans were not meant to eat it. It's an absolute abhorrence.
PUSH DICE CUP BACK AND I SHOOT CRAP
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
September 07 2005 00:41 GMT
#22
Yeah tofu can provide it if you eat enough.

That's why traditionally you bring a huge thing of tofu to someone who just came out of prison in Korea (--v)
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-07 01:46:12
September 07 2005 01:42 GMT
#23
On September 07 2005 09:00 draeger wrote:
vegetarians are so weird...

Do vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons value all walks of life equally? Do they trap mice, swat flies, slap mosquitos, or smash spiders? If so, I think that's rather hypocritical.
So anyone who can kill a fly should also be fine killing a person?

Soy protein includes all the amino acids, but they arent complex branch chain amino acids, or something like that. I looked it all up once, and finally found the truth after all the soy hype. Soy is good for you, very good, however it is NOT meat. And meat has complex amino acids already combined in such a form that your body can assimilate it much faster, and much more effeciently. Many of the amino acids on soy just pass through having to be ... ah fuck it i dont feel like explaining it to your stupid ass friend. He's wrong. In fact soy protein can promote estrogen, which is why theyre talking about breasts. But not much estrogen (all men have a certain amount of estrogen content), and not enough to ever be concerned about. He should eat a few more things than tofu and rice, but otherwise im sure he's healthy, and he can continue gorging on tofu all he likes.

EDIT: oh yea, humans did not evolve from chef monkies who knew how to cook. Our bodies were developed with the intention of eating off the land. Unless you can eat a bloody raw deer carcass with your bare teeth and hands (assuming you could somehow kill a dear or cow bare handed), you were never designed to eat it, not to mention the taste which is a natural indicator of whats good and whats not. The only reason people like meat is because of McDonalds.

Nuts, fruits, berries, vegetables, bark, dirt, these are the things man was meant to consume. They taste ok to great coming right out the ground, and are fully survivable and plentiful at that. We have molars people, not fangs. Our sharpest teeth are only meant for biting into an apple.
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-07 02:07:49
September 07 2005 01:55 GMT
#24
On September 07 2005 10:42 NewbSaibot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2005 09:00 draeger wrote:
vegetarians are so weird...

Do vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons value all walks of life equally? Do they trap mice, swat flies, slap mosquitos, or smash spiders? If so, I think that's rather hypocritical.
So anyone who can kill a fly should also be fine killing a person?

Soy protein includes all the amino acids, but they arent complex branch chain amino acids, or something like that. I looked it all up once, and finally found the truth after all the soy hype. Soy is good for you, very good, however it is NOT meat. And meat has complex amino acids already combined in such a form that your body can assimilate it much faster, and much more effeciently. Many of the amino acids on soy just pass through having to be ... ah fuck it i dont feel like explaining it to your stupid ass friend. He's wrong. In fact soy protein can promote estrogen, which is why theyre talking about breasts. But not much estrogen (all men have a certain amount of estrogen content), and not enough to ever be concerned about. He should eat a few more things than tofu and rice, but otherwise im sure he's healthy, and he can continue gorging on tofu all he likes.

EDIT: oh yea, humans did not evolve from chef monkies who knew how to cook. Our bodies were developed with the intention of eating off the land. Unless you can eat a bloody raw deer carcass with your bare teeth and hands (assuming you could somehow kill a dear or cow bare handed), you were never designed to eat it, not to mention the taste which is a natural indicator of whats good and whats not. The only reason people like meat is because of McDonalds.

Nuts, fruits, berries, vegetables, bark, dirt, these are the things man was meant to consume. They taste ok to great coming right out the ground, and are fully survivable and plentiful at that. We have molars people, not fangs. Our sharpest teeth are only meant for biting into an apple.

maybe you should find more sources for info sir...in so far as yourr view of meat being a better source for amino acids....
all proteins are broken down into single amino acids it does not matter if its complex or not.your body then asimilates those single amino acids and yes soy and tofu will be as good if not better for you than meat(it helps having a Phd in nutritional sciences as your wife, that teaches at the UofA)meat has all the amino acids you need were is a vegi diet must get all your amino acids from a few diffrent sources(there is no one vegi food that has themn all) so as long as you have a balanced diet with many diffrent foods a vegi diet will be better than a meat diet.the problem with most"vegi's" is that they dont get all the protiens and vitamins from the few sources they do take in. thats were pepole start to get ill or unhealthy. you cant be a vegi and just eat chips and tofu.my wife and i have been vegis since high school booth of us around 15-16 years of no meat and our daughter has been raised on a vegi diet , shes 6 now and as healthy or more so than other kids same age that do eat meat. agian comes down to a balanced diet either meat or not you still must have balcance.
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draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
September 07 2005 02:12 GMT
#25
On September 07 2005 10:42 NewbSaibot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2005 09:00 draeger wrote:
vegetarians are so weird...

Do vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons value all walks of life equally? Do they trap mice, swat flies, slap mosquitos, or smash spiders? If so, I think that's rather hypocritical.
So anyone who can kill a fly should also be fine killing a person?


Not my point in the slightest. If a vegetarian chooses that lifestyle because they hate that animals are slaughtered, would it not make sense that they shouldn't kill helpless mice, spiders, or flies either?
t.t
alphaentity
Profile Joined August 2005
United States525 Posts
September 07 2005 02:49 GMT
#26
On September 07 2005 10:55 FuDDx wrote:

maybe you should find more sources for info sir...in so far as yourr view of meat being a better source for amino acids....
all proteins are broken down into single amino acids it does not matter if its complex or not.your body then asimilates those single amino acids and yes soy and tofu will be as good if not better for you than meat(it helps having a Phd in nutritional sciences as your wife, that teaches at the UofA)meat has all the amino acids you need were is a vegi diet must get all your amino acids from a few diffrent sources(there is no one vegi food that has themn all) so as long as you have a balanced diet with many diffrent foods a vegi diet will be better than a meat diet.the problem with most"vegi's" is that they dont get all the protiens and vitamins from the few sources they do take in. thats were pepole start to get ill or unhealthy. you cant be a vegi and just eat chips and tofu.my wife and i have been vegis since high school booth of us around 15-16 years of no meat and our daughter has been raised on a vegi diet , shes 6 now and as healthy or more so than other kids same age that do eat meat. agian comes down to a balanced diet either meat or not you still must have balcance.


Hey Fuddx,
I thought that you would need to eat a variety of vegis to get the protein content that meat has as well. However, my friend insisted that tofu provided ALL the essential amino acids needed by the body and he showed me this site http://www.solaeliving.com/faqs/index.jsp
Can you please ask your wife if this is true or not? Thanks!
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
September 07 2005 02:53 GMT
#27
soy is the highest quality protien of all plant products, although for someone following a vegan diet, it is best to obtain protein from a variety of whole grains, legumes, seeds, and vegetables. If you choose not to eat meat, but consume other animal products on a regular basis, like cheese, milk, yogurt, etc, then the protein quality of non-animal products is not as important.
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LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
September 07 2005 03:40 GMT
#28
your friend is crazy, he is missing out on life
All Those beneath an angry star
Syst[eM]
Profile Joined August 2005
335 Posts
September 07 2005 04:23 GMT
#29
Meat is fucking disgusting.

Humans were not meant to eat it. It's an absolute abhorrence.
I hope you jest, sir.

http://www.responsiblewildlifemanagement.org/eating_meat_is_natural.htm

Meat is part of our diets, and always has been.
ComunistHobo
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada208 Posts
September 07 2005 04:27 GMT
#30
Tofu has much more protein then meat. Meat isn't that good for you. The only serving of meat you need each day is a peice the size of the palm of your hand.
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
September 07 2005 04:44 GMT
#31
On September 07 2005 13:23 Syst[eM] wrote:
Show nested quote +
Meat is fucking disgusting.

Humans were not meant to eat it. It's an absolute abhorrence.
I hope you jest, sir.

http://www.responsiblewildlifemanagement.org/eating_meat_is_natural.htm

Meat is part of our diets, and always has been.

there are countless places you can go for info all of witch state they are in fact correct. the only thing most of these things and ppl say that are consestent are that a well balanced diet is what we all need.witch is a fact.
many ppl think that we as humans have self evolved the need for meat many say thats false a book that comes to mind off the top of my head is Diet For A New America by Jhon Robbins of course Jhon is ecological and political and supports alot of anti animal abuse witch is in part why he takes the stance he does.Also a great book witch talks in great detail the hows and whys and political gains that push ,our way as americans anyway, us in a piticular way food wise is FoodPolitics by Marion Nestle
also for those intrested in starting or just picking up more "vegi" style of eating a good read is
Vegetatian Times Vegetarians Beginner's Guide by the Editors of Vegetarian Times mag.
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8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-07 04:55:08
September 07 2005 04:54 GMT
#32
what's tofu?

the name in polish means like "this yuck" but nevermind
maybe I should ask some vegetarians, there is this one chick who I really like

but hmm, do vegetarian chicks swallow?



and why do some of them eat fish oO



so many questions to ask

like the question from netwars.pl - how do they make the colorful toothpaste come out of the tube with the stripes, not some random blobs of one colour

this question brings so many other questions
I have returned
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
September 07 2005 04:56 GMT
#33
On September 07 2005 13:54 8882 wrote:
what's tofu?

the name in polish means like "this yuck" but nevermind
maybe I should ask some vegetarians, there is this one chick who I really like

but hmm, do vegetarian chicks swallow?



and why do some of them eat fish oO



so many questions to ask

like the question from netwars.pl - how do they make the colorful toothpaste come out of the tube with the stripes, not some random blobs of one colour

this question brings so many other questions


Stay on topic idiot?

http://www.soyfoods.com/soyfoodsdescriptions/tofu.html
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 07 2005 05:19 GMT
#34
Hmm ....

Steak tastes so good, nothing compares to it. There's other nice food, but steak's the one with the best taste in the world, just take the most expensive one and make sure it's pretty bloody... hmmm yes.

I usually just see eating as a part of surviving ... nothing more, but damn steak tastes so good. Nothing wrong with eating meat, animals eat meat, why shouldn't we ? I'd say it's a pretty natural form of food.
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