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Asol
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden109 Posts
April 12 2012 22:41 GMT
#421
On April 13 2012 07:11 Maginor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 06:57 Asol wrote:
Read all the books so far, loving them :-) Quick question; which book is it that + Show Spoiler +
Rand gets married? Cheers =)


Hmm, I don't think that has happened yet actually.

+ Show Spoiler +

Perrin gets married in book 4 and Mat in 11. Rand I think never marries the girls, but gets bonded by them in 9.


Cheers, not sure why I wrote married instead of bonded ;_;
Quote what?
Tarrius
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States37 Posts
April 12 2012 23:42 GMT
#422
Books 1 through 6 are incredible, 7-9 are terrible, the ending of 9 is one of the best scenes in the whole series, then 10 is still terrible, while 11 is alright, and then Sanderson swoops in and saves the series. I find he keeps the incredible direction that Jordan had set the series on, but took out a lot of the fluff and made things HAPPEN.

Book 13 Spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

Rand's Shining Moment: Although him slaughtering the thousands of shadowspawn was super duper epic, the scene that was his shining moment in my eyes is when he meets with Egwene. His cool and collected calm, minus the dark insanity is just mind bogglingly awesome.

PS - WHAT THE EFF IS IN THE LETTER THAT WAS HANDED TO HIM IN THE TOWER?!

Perrin's Shining Moment(Arguably my favorite scene in the series): Forging of Mah'allaneir. FUCK SO AWESOME.

Mat's Shining Moment: Whooping ass all through the Tower of Ghenjei, Mat is just a baller.
"The joy of living, its beauty is all bound up in the fact that life can surprise you." Leto Atreides II
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
April 12 2012 23:54 GMT
#423
On April 13 2012 07:41 Freeheals wrote:
Nearly finished the very first book last summer, not sure if I should re-read it in entirety or just finish the remaining ~200 pages.. either way, this thread is making me itch to start reading again


I feel like if you have to ask yourself that, this series may not be for you lol.

I'm sure just about everyone in this thread has re-read the entire series ahead of a new release, at least once.
nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
April 13 2012 02:28 GMT
#424
Just started reading this, I'm liking it so far. I'm about halfway through the first book. One thing that bothers me is that everyone from Two Rivers is something "special"
Sup
Kogan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany84 Posts
April 13 2012 03:03 GMT
#425
im reading book 6 right now, i love the series even tho sometimes the pace of the story is a bit slow. but the whole story and the environment it takes place in are so epic :D even more than lotr, although i doubt that there will ever be such a great movie about the wot series :D

and i really feel kinda sad for all the "ive never read a novel in my life" guys :/ read books !!
Hailene
Profile Joined June 2011
United States80 Posts
April 13 2012 04:54 GMT
#426
Kogan, get ready for it to slow down a LOT. But keep going! It's worth it :D
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
April 13 2012 04:59 GMT
#427
On April 13 2012 11:28 nennx wrote:
Just started reading this, I'm liking it so far. I'm about halfway through the first book. One thing that bothers me is that everyone from Two Rivers is something "special"

Well, it's not exactly like it's random. Rand is Ta'veren, the most powerful in ages. He could potentially influence that.
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Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
April 13 2012 10:52 GMT
#428
On April 13 2012 11:28 nennx wrote:
Just started reading this, I'm liking it so far. I'm about halfway through the first book. One thing that bothers me is that everyone from Two Rivers is something "special"


Most epics start off with someone special growing up in some remote, idyllic location. If you read Joseph Campbell's "Hero of a Thousand Faces", he talks about the formula behind the heroes journey and why its neccessary

That said, it has a better explanation in WoT then it does in most other epics, what with Rand being a powerful Ta'veren
BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
April 13 2012 15:44 GMT
#429
I swear I see a couple of these books on Day[9]'s shelf to his right.

I've read 1-10, and my GF has eclipsed me and is halfway thru the eleventh book. A guard where she works had also read the series and warned her after book 6 it all falls apart. Since she reads it daily installments on her breaks,I believe her plowing through and loving it got him to reconsider a re-read. Her favorite character early was Perrin, but she has since gravitated to Matt. Once Sanderson cough's out the last book, I will binge what remains, possibly in a full re-read.

I'm waiting with baited breath for movie adaptation. So much potential. So much to screw up. Nothing like a beatiful mess(DBZevolution/TeenAlienNinjaTurtles/HungerGames).
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Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
April 13 2012 15:56 GMT
#430
On April 14 2012 00:44 BioNova wrote:
I swear I see a couple of these books on Day[9]'s shelf to his right.

I've read 1-10, and my GF has eclipsed me and is halfway thru the eleventh book. A guard where she works had also read the series and warned her after book 6 it all falls apart. Since she reads it daily installments on her breaks,I believe her plowing through and loving it got him to reconsider a re-read. Her favorite character early was Perrin, but she has since gravitated to Matt. Once Sanderson cough's out the last book, I will binge what remains, possibly in a full re-read.

I'm waiting with baited breath for movie adaptation. So much potential. So much to screw up. Nothing like a beatiful mess(DBZevolution/TeenAlienNinjaTurtles/HungerGames).


Yeah, an adaption of Wheel of Time could either be pure greatess or a pure waste of potential. They'd need to go in more the Game of Thrones direction and less the Legend of the Seeker direction.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
April 13 2012 20:50 GMT
#431
On April 13 2012 08:42 Tarrius wrote:
Books 1 through 6 are incredible, 7-9 are terrible, the ending of 9 is one of the best scenes in the whole series, then 10 is still terrible, while 11 is alright, and then Sanderson swoops in and saves the series. I find he keeps the incredible direction that Jordan had set the series on, but took out a lot of the fluff and made things HAPPEN.

Book 13 Spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +

Rand's Shining Moment: Although him slaughtering the thousands of shadowspawn was super duper epic, the scene that was his shining moment in my eyes is when he meets with Egwene. His cool and collected calm, minus the dark insanity is just mind bogglingly awesome.

PS - WHAT THE EFF IS IN THE LETTER THAT WAS HANDED TO HIM IN THE TOWER?!

Perrin's Shining Moment(Arguably my favorite scene in the series): Forging of Mah'allaneir. FUCK SO AWESOME.

Mat's Shining Moment: Whooping ass all through the Tower of Ghenjei, Mat is just a baller.



Totally agree with that assessment of the series, that's been what I've been telling people when they ask about the series as well.
Sanderson takes over in amazing fashion and brings the series back to it's amazingly epic roots again.
I can't wait for the last book now, while after 10/11 I was iffy still.
+ Show Spoiler +

Mat has always been my favourite character, and seeing his storylines wrapping up has been incredible.

Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 13 2012 20:56 GMT
#432
On April 13 2012 03:29 Mordanis wrote:
I can't wait for the final book to be released. Thought it was going to be sometime in the next few months, and I just saw that it won't be out until next year. :C Makes me sad...

Theres really only one problem I have with the series, and I'll spoiler it just in case, but its from fairly early in the series.
+ Show Spoiler +
Perrin. Fuck he became so annoying. Everytime he talks about his wife (every time he talks), it makes me want to vomit. I understand that he is supposed to love his Faile more than any other love in the series, but it is much overdone IMO

Aside from that though, this is probably my favorite series :D


Re: your spoiler. Have you read the most recent books? That (admittedly very annoying) subplot is now resolved, and that character was off-the-charts awesome in Towers of Midnight.
Seoirse
Profile Joined February 2012
34 Posts
April 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#433
On April 14 2012 05:56 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:29 Mordanis wrote:
I can't wait for the final book to be released. Thought it was going to be sometime in the next few months, and I just saw that it won't be out until next year. :C Makes me sad...

Theres really only one problem I have with the series, and I'll spoiler it just in case, but its from fairly early in the series.
+ Show Spoiler +
Perrin. Fuck he became so annoying. Everytime he talks about his wife (every time he talks), it makes me want to vomit. I understand that he is supposed to love his Faile more than any other love in the series, but it is much overdone IMO

Aside from that though, this is probably my favorite series :D


Re: your spoiler. Have you read the most recent books? That (admittedly very annoying) subplot is now resolved, and that character was off-the-charts awesome in Towers of Midnight.

I totally agree that it was the most annoying thing possible. All there was was faile, faile, faile, faile.

Anyways the books are lacking. After book 7 there is too much talking. Too many words. Too many people
Idra come back..
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
April 13 2012 21:02 GMT
#434
On April 14 2012 05:56 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:29 Mordanis wrote:
I can't wait for the final book to be released. Thought it was going to be sometime in the next few months, and I just saw that it won't be out until next year. :C Makes me sad...

Theres really only one problem I have with the series, and I'll spoiler it just in case, but its from fairly early in the series.
+ Show Spoiler +
Perrin. Fuck he became so annoying. Everytime he talks about his wife (every time he talks), it makes me want to vomit. I understand that he is supposed to love his Faile more than any other love in the series, but it is much overdone IMO

Aside from that though, this is probably my favorite series :D


Re: your spoiler. Have you read the most recent books? That (admittedly very annoying) subplot is now resolved, and that character was off-the-charts awesome in Towers of Midnight.


+ Show Spoiler +

I enjoyed perrin nearly as much as Mat for the first part of the series, until that annoying as hell plot line came in and ruined him for a while. His scene with the Aes Sedai in the tower was amazing though, showing how kickass he is in the dreaming.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 21:14:12
April 13 2012 21:09 GMT
#435
On April 13 2012 08:42 Tarrius wrote:
Books 1 through 6 are incredible, 7-9 are terrible, the ending of 9 is one of the best scenes in the whole series, then 10 is still terrible, while 11 is alright, and then Sanderson swoops in and saves the series.

i don't get this at all, but i hear it all the time.

if you enjoyed book 1-6, than what about CoS, PoD, and WH, were unsatisfactory, especially since you say that you like CS and ToM? Admittedly, + Show Spoiler +
there is that huge cliffhanger at the end of CoS with Mat and then you don't see him for the entire next book
, but besides that, those are like, the exact same style and furthermore they completely set up everything that happens afterwards perfectly. i can see how reading through it the first time you might say, "ok where is this going?" but after you read the Sanderson ones you see what the idea was and how necessary all those other plot lines were. idk, i just don't see how you can love 1-6, then hate 7-10, like 11, and love 12-13.

to me it's like saying "I liked Fellowship of the Ring, and the Return of the King, but I didn't like the Two Towers."

wut? (though I do see why you might not like Path of Daggers, because that one is pretty rough. and the whole Elayne storyline in Crossroads i think, that was pretty rough too.)

and on perrin:

+ Show Spoiler +
his wife is missing in action and is about to bang some aiel dude to escape from captivity, it would make zero sense if he was just like: "oh humdydum, i'm not worried about it."

besides the scene where he makes the deal with the Seanchan makes the whole thing worth it anyway. the only thing about the storyline i thought was wierd was how Aram turned evil, but that was set up in the first book.
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Jaime
Profile Joined April 2010
United States213 Posts
April 14 2012 00:12 GMT
#436
To sc2superfan101, the reason people tend to not like 7-10 is because the story is spread out too much. In the first 6 books the story is contained to one or two, maybe three groups, whereas 7-10 has nearly a dozen different plotlines going throughout. Also, the first 6 books take place over the course of almost 2 years, whereas 8-10 only cover a month, maybe two. WH itself is the same week from every character, given that they're all doing their own thing you get to see the same day 8 times over. Lastly 7-10 has plotlines that could not die, Elayne's fight for the throne lasts through all 4 books, Perrin's search for Faile, and Egwene's fight for the Tower. Given that the vast majority of people were waiting 2 plus years for the books to come out they got frustrated that the characters were just doing the same thing over and over for 3 books. CoT especially is worthless, it's the shortest WoT book and the only one I've never reread because it spends more time describing Elayne's dresses than it does moving plots forward. There's likely other reasons people dislike them as well, but I believe those are the major ones, oh and Mat isn't in PoD, really upset a lot of people, especially since it looked like he might be dead at the end of aCoS.
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
April 14 2012 01:39 GMT
#437
I loved the series when it came out, books 1 - 6 were just riveting. I confess that I skimmed book 7 and only really focused on those areas involving Rand. I gave up on Book 8 and did not read Book 9 - 10. I'd like to get back into it with Book 11 which I hear returns to the form of the first 6 books, but I want to know, do I need to read books 7 - 10? Or can I just skip these and start again with 11 into the concluding books of the saga? Thanks.
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Aurocaido
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada288 Posts
April 14 2012 06:09 GMT
#438
On April 14 2012 10:39 aZealot wrote:
I loved the series when it came out, books 1 - 6 were just riveting. I confess that I skimmed book 7 and only really focused on those areas involving Rand. I gave up on Book 8 and did not read Book 9 - 10. I'd like to get back into it with Book 11 which I hear returns to the form of the first 6 books, but I want to know, do I need to read books 7 - 10? Or can I just skip these and start again with 11 into the concluding books of the saga? Thanks.


I am not going to lie, at times while reading books 7-10 I kind of wanted to drink myself into a coma. They can get very long winded and straight up boring with absolutely no plot development. Except for the scene in... Winters Heart? Anyway that scene, and you will know it when you read it, is probably one of the best in the series.

Take the time to read them, it might suck at times, but there are a few good parts that sort of make the drudgery worth while... sort of.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 14 2012 06:18 GMT
#439
I'm only on 3 but so far 3 > 2 > 1. I don't think I'll read chapter summaries for the poorly reviewed books since I'm a decent speedreader. Favorite characters so far are Lan, Min, and Perrin in no particular order.
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 06:19:41
April 14 2012 06:18 GMT
#440
I'm at book 5 right now(i think so, the fires of heaven?) and kind of hating it. I hate Nynvaeve so much. Everytime a chapter comes up involving Nynaeve/Elayne i just wanna cry myself to sleep. The best characters for me are Perrin, Mat, and Rand. And Perrin's not even in this book. fuck. i've been trying to get through it for two weeks and only halfway through. GOD THIS SUCKS.

also + Show Spoiler +
for the whole who loves rand thing, PLEASE don't let it be Min. god. she's a decent character but i just don't want rand to end up with her, i want it to be elayne. pleae please please.
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