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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
January 28 2012 17:37 GMT
#101
well now they can get addicted to the TV again.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
January 28 2012 17:42 GMT
#102
This could be a conspiracy. Blizzard could want this law because they feel Koreans are too good, so cutting off their supply of good players this way can make foreigners show better results. Of course this will take about 10 years to mature.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Rafael
Profile Joined January 2011
Venezuela182 Posts
January 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#103
Besides all of this, I wonder where do korean kids really make some times to play games?

They go to school when they wake up till they sleep practically. It's like they study 16 hours a day.
bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
January 28 2012 17:50 GMT
#104
It shouldn't be the task of the gov. to take care of kids in this regard.
henzi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
January 28 2012 17:58 GMT
#105
On January 28 2012 23:20 Ache0wns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 23:15 aTnClouD wrote:
Well this sucks but I understand why they do it and it might not be completely wrong...

It's like burning a litter of kittens because one of them pooped on the floor and the hadn't proven it was done by a kitten :C

zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
January 28 2012 18:10 GMT
#106
This simply comes down to whether the government should or should regulate it's citizen's lives to this degree.

Western v Eastern views on government.


I tend to lean a great deal more towards the west. The government shouldn't spend it's time on managing it's population to this degree.

It's not the governments task to cultivate an army of perfect citizens.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
January 28 2012 18:36 GMT
#107
Well for progamers it is more like work and not mindless goldfarming or whatever.

I could imagine that the government wants to protect kids who waste time (even more) and neglect their school/studies.
Progamers will probably get a license to play, or get someone older to register smurfs.
Korlinni
Profile Joined April 2011
125 Posts
January 28 2012 18:39 GMT
#108
It's not the governments job to parent the countries kids, it's the parents job.
Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools!
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 18:43:29
January 28 2012 18:41 GMT
#109
On January 29 2012 03:10 zalz wrote:
This simply comes down to whether the government should or should regulate it's citizen's lives to this degree.

Western v Eastern views on government.


I tend to lean a great deal more towards the west. The government shouldn't spend it's time on managing it's population to this degree.

It's not the governments task to cultivate an army of perfect citizens.



I have opinions on governments' relation to people as well, but even given that talking about it is bound to be a bit inevitable in this thread, I don't think the discussion has any place here simply because it's too easy for people to generalize and abstract until they miss the point, and end up arguing about a hypothetical government/society that they've created in their minds and doesn't actually exist.

People missing the point here.....



A better avenue of discussion would be, is this good in the context of Korea? well let's see...

You have a newly assertive neoliberal movement in the education system which is trying to privatize and further standardize education with an increased emphasis on testing--- this is having the effect of increased exam pressure, increased competition for spots in highschools/universities, etc.

As a result you also have parents that are really concerned about their children getting results in education, but you have a parallel opposition to the trend in education where people are really getting pissed off at the system.

You have an education ministry that is increasingly under fire from people as to why the system isn't working as they've promised it would (increased hours spent cramming, increased stress/competition, but no increase in results for individuals), and they are eager to scapegoat other causes, such as gaming. (MEST, the ministry are the ones lobbying for this law)).

And finally you have a pro-gaming industry, and a wider gaming industry that will suffer huge consequences as a result, but so far hasn't mobilized in opposition to this.

Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 28 2012 18:42 GMT
#110
On January 29 2012 01:50 KoTakUEurO wrote:
doesn't make sense. how do you expect to foster up and coming progamers when you can't even play =.="


Kids are the future...if they are all interested in video games and video games early, I worry for South Korea's future when the current population grows up. A similar but different scenario showing the importance of the future generation (work force) can be seen in North America...Baby Boomers are nearing retirement age, but the generation growing up is no where large enough to replace them. We will have shortage of positions being filled eventually.

South Korea is planning for the worst I am guessing.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 28 2012 18:44 GMT
#111
wow, thats pretty crazy
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
January 28 2012 18:50 GMT
#112
On January 29 2012 03:42 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 01:50 KoTakUEurO wrote:
doesn't make sense. how do you expect to foster up and coming progamers when you can't even play =.="


Kids are the future...if they are all interested in video games and video games early, I worry for South Korea's future when the current population grows up. A similar but different scenario showing the importance of the future generation (work force) can be seen in North America...Baby Boomers are nearing retirement age, but the generation growing up is no where large enough to replace them. We will have shortage of positions being filled eventually.

South Korea is planning for the worst I am guessing.


How are those similar?

The baby boom is an inevitable fact of life and a very real thing we need to deal with.

The negative influence of video games is hardly a well established fact.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
January 28 2012 18:54 GMT
#113
Things like this really remind you how fringe eSports actually are, even in Korea.
For Aiur???
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 19:12:14
January 28 2012 19:11 GMT
#114
Wow at first it sounded to me, like being new law in NORTH korea xd
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 19:23:01
January 28 2012 19:16 GMT
#115
On January 28 2012 23:04 Soleron wrote:
Doesn't Kespa have any lobbying power? If Korea wants the world to see their culture through Starcraft, this needs to not happen.

I can't believe they are imposing such restrictions in an otherwise liberal democracy. In the West, enforcing this is called "parenting" and if you do a bad job it is your fault not the government's.

You can't really tell from the article how close a "proposed" policy is to actually being law.

Ugh, really man? Since when did Korea want the world to see their culture through Starcraft? Its like claiming Japan wants the world to see their culture through anime or the US wants the world to see their culture through WWE.

First, unless someone shows me otherwise, I'm inclined to believe that Starcraft is not as big as a lot of people claim it to be. Yeah there are national tv channels showing pro SC, but then again we have the "History Channel" here in the US and anyone who has at least an average IQ stays away from that bullshit.

Second, even if it was as big as football for us Americans or, well...football for the rest of the world, thats not the only thing in their culture theyd want to show. Unless you actually believe that the majority of the Korean population follows Starcraft, its a bit strange to claim that Korea wants to show the world their culture through Starcraft.


PS. "In the West, enforcing this is called 'parenting'." Really? Youre gonna condescendingly suggest that its an Asian thing to leave parenting to the government? sigh....


Edit: Not saying its good for the government to be imposing themselves on peoples personal lives, but I can't believe you think its a bad thing that kids will be studying more, exercising more, sleeping better, etc. instead of playing computer games.
RoKetha
Profile Joined July 2010
United States211 Posts
January 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#116
I guess Flash's legacy of results at such a young age will be undisputed for all time, then.

I recognize that the Korean citizenry has some very severe problems with gaming addiction that we as outsiders cannot fully appreciate, but their problems also include too much pressure on children that results in psychological issues. The Korean government cannot expect teenagers to perfectly conform to their ideal. Nanny state laws like this are never good things, and frankly I don't see why this is necessary to mandate at the national level, thereby dragging in the many individuals who are doing well now, when software is already available for parents to do this sort of thing if it's needed.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
January 28 2012 19:21 GMT
#117
This is one of the most draconian ideas I've ever even heard of.

I hope it never happens (it probably won't)
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
YouMake
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
January 28 2012 19:22 GMT
#118
How is it even possible to enforce this law? How are you going to know if i lie and say im 25 on the internet if im 17 or 18 korean??
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but all out of bubble gum! - Duke Nukem!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
January 28 2012 19:24 GMT
#119
Korean government, bringing parity to global ESPORTS
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheBatman
Profile Joined January 2011
United States209 Posts
January 28 2012 19:26 GMT
#120
Imagine is something like this were trying to be passed in the US.

People would go insane
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