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jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
January 28 2012 15:53 GMT
#61
On January 29 2012 00:19 Kerwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:10 Chernobyl wrote:
Thats good.

The kids need to study more, and dont play videogames all day long.

I think Leenock is too young to stop studing and work as a player, per example.

Great example, sir...
http://twitter.com/#!/FXOpeneSports/status/139734073118699521


lol
HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
January 28 2012 15:53 GMT
#62
On January 29 2012 00:48 Oldfool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:42 HikariPrime wrote:
On January 28 2012 23:29 BlindSC2 wrote:
If you're going to implement a law like this (which I disagree with anyway btw), surely it makes more sense to restrict it on a weekly basis rather than daily. Like say punish for going over 21-28 hours per week. I would hardly call it an addiction if for example a kid played games over the afternoon/evening on Saturday and Sunday, but not on weekdays, 3 hours max a day seems a bit silly. (The definition of 'addiction' itself can be argued in this context)

As an aside - they have Education, Science and Technology under one ministry and/or representative? Lots of responsibility there


Um, your math is weird, You say 3 max per day is silly but your limit of 21 hours per week is EXACTLY what they are talking about (3hours x 7 days a week= 21 hours a week) lol. I'd say 5-6 hours a day isn't much of a problem. Some pros that i know of only practice 4-5 hours a day. These are people like Stephano and NesTea so it shouldn't be too bad if they can do it and get good results.

I think you misunderstood, I interpreted his comment that the time limit isn't the problem, but rather that people would probably be happier if they were able to play longer periods some days rather than essentially being 'forced' to play their 3 hours a day else they 'lose' play time. 3 hours max per day is pretty rigid.


If that the case then i apologize. This whole thing is silly, It is a parenting task and also part of growing up as a kid. To learn whats important in life for yourself. It's good because it should happen that kids study more, but it shouldn't be up to the government.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 28 2012 15:55 GMT
#63
On January 28 2012 23:04 Soleron wrote:
Doesn't Kespa have any lobbying power? If Korea wants the world to see their culture through Starcraft, this needs to not happen.

I can't believe they are imposing such restrictions in an otherwise liberal democracy. In the West, enforcing this is called "parenting" and if you do a bad job it is your fault not the government's.

You can't really tell from the article how close a "proposed" policy is to actually being law.


im pretty sure the average korean doesnt want his country to be represented by a bunch of kids playing a video game lol
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
January 28 2012 15:59 GMT
#64
Well, Korea just got allot worse in SC2, that's for sure.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
January 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#65
Were were these laws when all the kids were playing with marbles?!
Seriously though, the midnight to 6 law might not be all that bad, however 3hrs a day is really not that much, especially since the computer is the main "toy" for young people these days. Imagine if you told your son/daughter that they could only hang out with their friends for 3hrs a day and not more than 2hrs in a row, yikes :O
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
January 28 2012 16:03 GMT
#66
so no more progamer houses in SK or does this only affect korean citizens?
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
January 28 2012 16:04 GMT
#67
On January 29 2012 00:53 HikariPrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:48 Oldfool wrote:
On January 29 2012 00:42 HikariPrime wrote:
On January 28 2012 23:29 BlindSC2 wrote:
If you're going to implement a law like this (which I disagree with anyway btw), surely it makes more sense to restrict it on a weekly basis rather than daily. Like say punish for going over 21-28 hours per week. I would hardly call it an addiction if for example a kid played games over the afternoon/evening on Saturday and Sunday, but not on weekdays, 3 hours max a day seems a bit silly. (The definition of 'addiction' itself can be argued in this context)

As an aside - they have Education, Science and Technology under one ministry and/or representative? Lots of responsibility there


Um, your math is weird, You say 3 max per day is silly but your limit of 21 hours per week is EXACTLY what they are talking about (3hours x 7 days a week= 21 hours a week) lol. I'd say 5-6 hours a day isn't much of a problem. Some pros that i know of only practice 4-5 hours a day. These are people like Stephano and NesTea so it shouldn't be too bad if they can do it and get good results.

I think you misunderstood, I interpreted his comment that the time limit isn't the problem, but rather that people would probably be happier if they were able to play longer periods some days rather than essentially being 'forced' to play their 3 hours a day else they 'lose' play time. 3 hours max per day is pretty rigid.


If that the case then i apologize. This whole thing is silly, It is a parenting task and also part of growing up as a kid. To learn whats important in life for yourself. It's good because it should happen that kids study more, but it shouldn't be up to the government.

This is a good point, actually. You would imagine it would increase study efforts and the like, but it's more likely that those who have such bad habits to play too much would end up just browsing forums, chatting more, or even just playing games that require no SSID. You get the common problem of just replacing one thing with another.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
January 28 2012 16:08 GMT
#68
I may be mistaken, but it seems really easy to get around that law. It is like copyright laws, it is still illegal to pirate music, but it is not enforced.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:12:36
January 28 2012 16:09 GMT
#69
This is oldish...but its made mostly cuz people in korea just play MMO's allll dayyyyyy. all. day. But yeah this law can't pass or Starcraft in general is greatly hindered.\
Edit:
On January 29 2012 00:53 jlim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:19 Kerwin wrote:
On January 29 2012 00:10 Chernobyl wrote:
Thats good.

The kids need to study more, and dont play videogames all day long.

I think Leenock is too young to stop studing and work as a player, per example.

Great example, sir...
http://twitter.com/#!/FXOpeneSports/status/139734073118699521


lol

It's actually really funny how this gets brought up so often....if progaming is to be accepted, than we can't have laws like this tho..even if leenock did stop studying he can do it later right now hes BEASTING and I'd reckon having the time of his life. I don't have the time of my life studying.
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 28 2012 16:09 GMT
#70
On January 29 2012 00:19 Kerwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:10 Chernobyl wrote:
Thats good.

The kids need to study more, and dont play videogames all day long.

I think Leenock is too young to stop studing and work as a player, per example.

Great example, sir...
http://twitter.com/#!/FXOpeneSports/status/139734073118699521


In the interview after the MLG final, Leenock clearly said that he doesn't go to school anymore.
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
January 28 2012 16:13 GMT
#71
This is the work of the C.I.A, trying to help foreigners get to the top of SC2.

J.K

In all seriousness, this law is taking it too far. As the general consensus has said, its the role of the parents to teach, and supervise their children. Balance IS essential, but playing too much games is the least of problems, I have learned History, math, memory, vocabulary, countless subjects from games. Games are great, and I don't see how with South Korea's education system that this could be doing much harm, they study and attend many hours more of School than most.

All work and no play :|
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:15:40
January 28 2012 16:13 GMT
#72
On January 29 2012 01:09 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:19 Kerwin wrote:
On January 29 2012 00:10 Chernobyl wrote:
Thats good.

The kids need to study more, and dont play videogames all day long.

I think Leenock is too young to stop studing and work as a player, per example.

Great example, sir...
http://twitter.com/#!/FXOpeneSports/status/139734073118699521


In the interview after the MLG final, Leenock clearly said that he doesn't go to school anymore.

Sigh... my quote from FXO was 4 days after MLG Providence, and it was clarifying the statement Leenock made. It could have been mistranslated or misunderstood (Leenock could have been saying he got a break from school to go to that specific tournament or that he's not going to the same school anymore)

From the liquipedia:
"Although there was some confusion on this subject at MLG Providence, Leenock does go to school."
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
January 28 2012 16:14 GMT
#73
Retarded law, is this seriously the same country that went apeshit because the goverment started importing pork?
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
January 28 2012 16:14 GMT
#74
On January 29 2012 01:09 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 00:19 Kerwin wrote:
On January 29 2012 00:10 Chernobyl wrote:
Thats good.

The kids need to study more, and dont play videogames all day long.

I think Leenock is too young to stop studing and work as a player, per example.

Great example, sir...
http://twitter.com/#!/FXOpeneSports/status/139734073118699521


In the interview after the MLG final, Leenock clearly said that he doesn't go to school anymore.


Well MLG providence ended 2011-11-20 and that tweet is 2011-11-24. It was obviously some sort of translation mistake or something...
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
lvlashimaro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States91 Posts
January 28 2012 16:16 GMT
#75
It makes you wonder exactly how bad the kids there game. You hear crazy stories about people who go to PC cafe for a couple days straight, but those are generally outliers and happen in every country right? I wonder what makes the Korean government so crazy about this.
작은 두손을 모은 내 기도는 하나 뿐이야 돌아와
pebblebeach
Profile Joined June 2011
35 Posts
January 28 2012 16:22 GMT
#76
It's a good law, there's no point in having people waste their lives playing games when they should be studying and making their path in the world.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:27:34
January 28 2012 16:24 GMT
#77
On January 29 2012 00:10 Chernobyl wrote:
Thats good.

The kids need to study more, and dont play videogames all day long.

I think Leenock is too young to stop studing and work as a player, per example.


Playing games is no different from playing basketball or watching TV during your free time. It is the parent's job to regulate their kids.


On January 29 2012 01:22 pebblebeach wrote:
It's a good law, there's no point in having people waste their lives playing games when they should be studying and making their path in the world.

Why is being a pro-gamer not "making their path in the world" ?
Hetairoi
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden508 Posts
January 28 2012 16:27 GMT
#78
On January 29 2012 01:22 pebblebeach wrote:
It's a good law, there's no point in having people waste their lives playing games when they should be studying and making their path in the world.


People should be able to make choices regarding their own life. Other people shouldn't interfere in peoples personal life.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 28 2012 16:32 GMT
#79
I agree that a law like this has to be put into place if the country's lacks people going into higher education, but a sever time restriction really isn't the way. 3 hours a day means that a lot of content in mmos are no longer playable, and playing more than 3 hours on weekends is completely reasonable. If they can keep track of how long you've been playing, they can target the kids who do play way too long.
Fealthas
Profile Joined May 2011
607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 16:44:10
January 28 2012 16:35 GMT
#80
I see a bunch of 40 year old ladies with stay at home jobs sitting at a table going : SAVE THE CHILDRENN!!!!!!!!1!1!!
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