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On January 16 2012 02:24 DorF wrote:
I'm very suprised no cities situated in other parts of Africa than a couple of South African ones are on the list. I always thought South Africa would be among the more peacefull countries.
Or any of the numerous nations not only in Africa that are currently involved in war or civil war.
It seems that quite simply, most of Africa does not keep/report murder rates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Homicide-world.png
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no surprise that only the US out of the highest developed countries made that list with their gun laws etc
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Poor Mexico. I have a friend who lives there (he lives in Canada and Mexico half the time. He lives in Durango during winter, and comes to Canada for summer), and he is terrified to do a lot of things. The drug war there is getting crazy, especially seeing how many Mexican cities are at the top of that list. So many innocent people caught in the middle of something they want nothing to do with.
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If I recall correctly Port Moresby usually makes those kinds of lists, maybe it has gotten better over the last few years, I'm not so updated on the situation there.
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On January 16 2012 02:51 isleyofthenorth wrote:
no surprise that only the US out of the highest developed countries made that list with their gun laws etc
Blaming the U.S. out of every developed country due to their "gun laws etc" shows a very high amount of ignorance to the overall cause of these issues. If you think that the people causing these crimes own a legal firearm, you are sorely mistaken.
And for the record, I am very anti gun. These cities are infested to the core with drug and gang problems, neither of which concern the issue of firearm laws at all.
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On January 16 2012 02:51 isleyofthenorth wrote:
no surprise that only the US out of the highest developed countries made that list with their gun laws etc
God you people just can't help yourselves can you... seen this like 10 times in 5 pages.
Yeah, I'm gonna stay as far away from this thread as possible.
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On January 16 2012 02:42 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 02:17 Spitmode wrote:
wait what? why's baghdad not on the list? rofl I guess murders for democracy don't count. Otherwise Baghdad would be #1.
Mosul is 44 on that list, i guess Baghdad is just too big as this is ranked by deaths per 100 000 people. Mind You Bahgdad has over 7 mil inhabitants.
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Not only should St. Louis not be on there, but Baltimore as well. Baltimore is also an independent city, so its stats won't be averaged with its county. And, as with St. Louis, its county population is greater than its city population.
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It's not good to compare countries with tight gun controls to those without them in terms of murder rates. We have high crime rates in our bad areas in our cities, but the chance of dying to a stabwound is significantly lower than the chance of dying to a gunshot. If you compared cities in terms of violent crimes, then I'm sure some Scottish/ British towns would sneak in.
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mexico sounds pretty bad, can't they get their military to help clean it up?
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On January 16 2012 02:59 Assault_1 wrote:
mexico sounds pretty bad, can't they get their military to help clean it up?
If what you want is to lower the murder rate, involving the military in urban warfare seems like not such a good idea : P.
Because that's what they did in Mexico some time ago, and violence just got worse.
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This ranking is only for big cities (at least all the brazilian cities are all state capitals, and there's other cities much more violent), so it's pretty deceptive.
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On January 16 2012 02:54 Solidarity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 02:51 isleyofthenorth wrote:
no surprise that only the US out of the highest developed countries made that list with their gun laws etc Blaming the U.S. out of every developed country due to their "gun laws etc" shows a very high amount of ignorance to the overall cause of these issues. If you think that the people causing these crimes own a legal firearm, you are sorely mistaken. And for the record, I am very anti gun. These cities are infested to the core with drug and gang problems, neither of which concern the issue of firearm laws at all.
Shut up you ignorant American!
(obv a joke)
Ignorant Europeans need to learn that you can track down the owner of a gun. As in Europe most crimes are commited with illegally acquired ones.
Seems like all the cities in that list have a big drug/gang scene :/
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On January 16 2012 03:01 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 02:57 unteqair wrote:
Not only should St. Louis not be on there, but Baltimore as well. Baltimore is also an independent city, so its stats won't be averaged with its county. And, as with St. Louis, its county population is greater than its city population. I don't get why this means they shouldn't be on there. So long as they took both homicide and population stats from the same area (either both from the city or both from the county) then it's fine.
Because it hasn't been made clear to the readers. The parameters for the statistics weren't consistent. People who read this will assume St. Louis and Baltimore are more dangerous than some surrounding areas, where it might not actually be the case.
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Gotta love how Detroit, New Orleans and St. Louis are more dangerous than Mosul, Iraq. You know it's bad when your city is deemed more dangerous than a war zone
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What a faceplam thread, keep going.
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Seriously? Cape town south africa is more safe than Detroit or New Orleans? I dont know about this study...
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I dont think its fair to judge "danger" based solely on homicide rate per 100 000
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