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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:06 Sated wrote: Strong gun control = Less violent cities. UK UK UK! + Show Spoiler + Sorry, but it was hard to resist, given all the USA USA USA! stuff elsewhere on the Forums ![]() Criminals in the US can get guns quite easily, regardless of gun controls. If they can smuggle drugs in at a regular basis, they would have no trouble smuggling guns in (and they don't, because the vast majority of criminals get their guns illegally). I don't want to start a gun control argument here, but I'm pretty sure that is not the problem. | ||
Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:24 DorF wrote: I'm very suprised no cities situated in other parts of Africa than a couple of South African ones are on the list. I always thought South Africa would be among the more peacefull countries. Or any of the numerous nations not only in Africa that are currently involved in war or civil war. I think part of the problem is that it's very hard to get accurate statistics on African cities. I think another part of it is rampant racism. The West does not give a shit about Africa unless somebody important decides he can win political correctness points by spending 30 minutes in front of a camera. "Yay, Africa is so culturally wonderful -- now let's get out of here before the natives kill us." That's our attitude. It's unhealthy and I find it sickening, but it is what it is. You want bad, check out Liberia. Vice Guide to Travel did a show on them... seriously fucked up place. | ||
hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
You guys need to learn how to use your brains. | ||
Caseyclysm
United States104 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
But as others have said this is far from comprehensive/accurate as a lot of more dangerous places seem to have been ignored or no stats available. | ||
CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
But in all seriousness, Europe is doing great! | ||
FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:40 FryktSkyene wrote: Mexican drug cartels are the reason for so many high ranking mexican cities? Yes/no? I'm just speculating. absolutely correct. the death figures associated with the narco violence is staggering, and has been ever since around 2006-2007ish. The numbers rival numbers in actual, recognized wars. | ||
Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:17 Spitmode wrote: wait what? why's baghdad not on the list? rofl I guess murders for democracy don't count. Otherwise Baghdad would be #1. | ||
sopas
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:37 Mortality wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2012 02:24 DorF wrote: I'm very suprised no cities situated in other parts of Africa than a couple of South African ones are on the list. I always thought South Africa would be among the more peacefull countries. Or any of the numerous nations not only in Africa that are currently involved in war or civil war. I think part of the problem is that it's very hard to get accurate statistics on African cities. I think another part of it is rampant racism. The West does not give a shit about Africa unless somebody important decides he can win political correctness points by spending 30 minutes in front of a camera. "Yay, Africa is so culturally wonderful -- now let's get out of here before the natives kill us." That's our attitude. It's unhealthy and I find it sickening, but it is what it is. You want bad, check out Liberia. Vice Guide to Travel did a show on them... seriously fucked up place. Ask a random person what they know about Africa, they'll say famine, epidemics, civil wars and maybe safaris. Maybe it's very different in the US but I don't see some sort of concentrated effort to paint Africa as a nice place. Most people realize that most of the continent is seriously fucked up. Though arguably less so than 10 years ago. | ||
unteqair
United States308 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:37 Caseyclysm wrote: I'm somewhat surprised about Baltimore and St. Louis. New Orleans being on there sounds reasonable. As I've said before, St. Louis county is never averaged with the city in these studies because it is considered a different entity from St. Louis city, while other cities have their counties stats averaged in. The county is three times larger than the city, and if it were included then St. Louis wouldn't be on the list. St. Louis county has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation. | ||
smokeyhoodoo
United States1021 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:34 Mykill wrote: nothing canadian made it... whewww ![]() i was sort of expecting vancouver or windsor (right across the bridge from detroit) | ||
JackDragon
525 Posts
On January 16 2012 02:37 hmunkey wrote: The entire premise of the OP is false, seeing as it's a ranking of the most violent cities with dozens of the most violent ones excluded for no discernible reason. It's a list of violence as counted by official murder rates (?) when actual violent cities aren't predominantly marked by murders, but by terrorism and war. You guys need to learn how to use your brains. I don't know if I can agree wih you. War and Terrorism is not murder? why would that not count in this study. Granted that they problebly missed some because of lack of statistics but I don't see how "The entire premise of the OP is false" sure I don't think it is 100% accurate, but I don't think it is that far from the truth. Hell isn't mexico toping that list? What do you think they deal with? I'm pretty sure that can be called terrorism and war (on drugs). | ||
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