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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
January 15 2012 17:34 GMT
#61
nothing canadian made it...
whewww
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 15 2012 17:36 GMT
#62
On January 16 2012 02:06 Sated wrote:
Strong gun control = Less violent cities.

UK UK UK!

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry, but it was hard to resist, given all the USA USA USA! stuff elsewhere on the Forums

Criminals in the US can get guns quite easily, regardless of gun controls. If they can smuggle drugs in at a regular basis, they would have no trouble smuggling guns in (and they don't, because the vast majority of criminals get their guns illegally). I don't want to start a gun control argument here, but I'm pretty sure that is not the problem.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
January 15 2012 17:36 GMT
#63
Can anyone download and read the report? It won't let me. The speculation in this thread about why it doesn't look like people expect is annoying.

But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
January 15 2012 17:37 GMT
#64
I wonder how an american drug policy reform would affect this issue. There's a real problem and it doesn't look like the ongoing war on drugs is helping. I don't know what would be the best reform but it seems like there needs to be SOMETHING done.
Try another route paperboy.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
January 15 2012 17:37 GMT
#65
On January 16 2012 02:24 DorF wrote:
I'm very suprised no cities situated in other parts of Africa than a couple of South African ones are on the list. I always thought South Africa would be among the more peacefull countries.
Or any of the numerous nations not only in Africa that are currently involved in war or civil war.


I think part of the problem is that it's very hard to get accurate statistics on African cities. I think another part of it is rampant racism. The West does not give a shit about Africa unless somebody important decides he can win political correctness points by spending 30 minutes in front of a camera. "Yay, Africa is so culturally wonderful -- now let's get out of here before the natives kill us." That's our attitude. It's unhealthy and I find it sickening, but it is what it is.

You want bad, check out Liberia. Vice Guide to Travel did a show on them... seriously fucked up place.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:37:52
January 15 2012 17:37 GMT
#66
The entire premise of the OP is false, seeing as it's a ranking of the most violent cities with dozens of the most violent ones excluded for no discernible reason. It's a list of violence as counted by official murder rates (?) when actual violent cities aren't predominantly marked by murders, but by terrorism and war.

You guys need to learn how to use your brains.
Caseyclysm
Profile Joined May 2010
United States104 Posts
January 15 2012 17:37 GMT
#67
I'm somewhat surprised about Baltimore and St. Louis. New Orleans being on there sounds reasonable.
“You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him discover it in himself.” -Galileo Galilei
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
January 15 2012 17:38 GMT
#68
Quite surprised St. Louis is there and a little bit surprised about Baltimore (okay not really).
But as others have said this is far from comprehensive/accurate as a lot of more dangerous places seem to have been ignored or no stats available.
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
January 15 2012 17:39 GMT
#69
Pleased that Belfast has moved from 2nd to not even on the list :D
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
January 15 2012 17:40 GMT
#70
Mexican drug cartels are the reason for so many high ranking mexican cities? Yes/no? I'm just speculating.
Snitches get stiches
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
January 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#71
Grats to USA to make it this good on the list!
But in all seriousness, Europe is doing great!
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
January 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#72
On January 16 2012 02:40 FryktSkyene wrote:
Mexican drug cartels are the reason for so many high ranking mexican cities? Yes/no? I'm just speculating.

absolutely correct. the death figures associated with the narco violence is staggering, and has been ever since around 2006-2007ish. The numbers rival numbers in actual, recognized wars.
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
January 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#73
Another important aspect is avoidability. For example, in the Netherlands most murders are criminals killing criminals and (ex)family members killing eachother. Which makes a safer country (for me) than if most of the murders were robberies/random/terrorist. Numbers like this don't address real safety/danger imho.
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:48:30
January 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#74
On January 16 2012 02:17 Spitmode wrote:
wait what? why's baghdad not on the list? rofl

I guess murders for democracy don't count. Otherwise Baghdad would be #1.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
January 15 2012 17:43 GMT
#75
damn drug wars...luckily i dont have to live in those areas
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
January 15 2012 17:44 GMT
#76
On January 16 2012 02:37 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 02:24 DorF wrote:
I'm very suprised no cities situated in other parts of Africa than a couple of South African ones are on the list. I always thought South Africa would be among the more peacefull countries.
Or any of the numerous nations not only in Africa that are currently involved in war or civil war.


I think part of the problem is that it's very hard to get accurate statistics on African cities. I think another part of it is rampant racism. The West does not give a shit about Africa unless somebody important decides he can win political correctness points by spending 30 minutes in front of a camera. "Yay, Africa is so culturally wonderful -- now let's get out of here before the natives kill us." That's our attitude. It's unhealthy and I find it sickening, but it is what it is.

You want bad, check out Liberia. Vice Guide to Travel did a show on them... seriously fucked up place.


Ask a random person what they know about Africa, they'll say famine, epidemics, civil wars and maybe safaris. Maybe it's very different in the US but I don't see some sort of concentrated effort to paint Africa as a nice place. Most people realize that most of the continent is seriously fucked up. Though arguably less so than 10 years ago.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 17:48:46
January 15 2012 17:45 GMT
#77
On January 16 2012 02:37 Caseyclysm wrote:
I'm somewhat surprised about Baltimore and St. Louis. New Orleans being on there sounds reasonable.

As I've said before, St. Louis county is never averaged with the city in these studies because it is considered a different entity from St. Louis city, while other cities have their counties stats averaged in. The county is three times larger than the city, and if it were included then St. Louis wouldn't be on the list.

St. Louis county has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
January 15 2012 17:45 GMT
#78
I spent a week in the slums of Juarez. That city is knee deep in trash. Nicest people around though. Children playing soccer in the streets everyday. Brings me to tears. TT
There is no cow level
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 15 2012 17:45 GMT
#79
On January 16 2012 02:34 Mykill wrote:
nothing canadian made it...
whewww

i was sort of expecting vancouver or windsor (right across the bridge from detroit)
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 15 2012 17:45 GMT
#80
On January 16 2012 02:37 hmunkey wrote:
The entire premise of the OP is false, seeing as it's a ranking of the most violent cities with dozens of the most violent ones excluded for no discernible reason. It's a list of violence as counted by official murder rates (?) when actual violent cities aren't predominantly marked by murders, but by terrorism and war.

You guys need to learn how to use your brains.


I don't know if I can agree wih you. War and Terrorism is not murder? why would that not count in this study. Granted that they problebly missed some because of lack of statistics but I don't see how "The entire premise of the OP is false" sure I don't think it is 100% accurate, but I don't think it is that far from the truth. Hell isn't mexico toping that list? What do you think they deal with? I'm pretty sure that can be called terrorism and war (on drugs).
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